Why make Dua when everything is pre written??

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Peace Mughal1

Aqeedah101 … We are not discussing this topic … I will gladly come back to this point … but for the time being I would like to see categorical proof that our ulema are quote on quote … blaming "God for all their ills. when they should be “**blaming rulers, money lenders and mullahs for fractures in human community”

**That is sheer nonsense … Not only do my own shuyukh categorically require us to take blame for our actions if you look at society today no one is blaming God … they are blame each other … and you are blaming everyone else too … No one … I mean no one blames God on account of beliefs in Qadr according to traditional understandings …

In fact a book that I read entitled “Kitab ul-Tanwir Fi isqat ul-tadbir” tells us about the contradistinction between Adam (AS) the archetypal human and Shaitan The Accursed - that Iblees blamed God in the Qur’an for being put to test in prostrating to to the Adamic form whereas Adam (AS) sought forgiveness for something that he could have said that Shaitan deceived him … (AS) … We are taught this as a fundamental part of our tariqah … which is to take ownership of our lives …

Also many ulema teach … tie the camel before trusting in Allah (SWT) … so there is a strong concept throughout traditional Islam for not “blaming Allah (SWT)” … Also in the Qur’an it says all good comes from Allah (SWT) but any evil that befalls us is a direct result of our own actions … however, we are also taught that evil cannot exist if Allah (SWT) does not create it for it to exist …

I hope that you will stop spreading your lies about others … It is okay to have your own opinion but please do not lie about others … we are however not to battle with our destiny and this is quite a different matter … and we have to learn to accept past events as the Will of God … not blame Him for them …

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@princessnadia Duas are always accepted inshallah in three ways. Either you get what you do dua for, Allah doesn’t give you what you ask for but keeps something better for you in the next life or you don’t get what you ask for but something bad that would have happened in this life is stopped from reaching you. Allah always responds and always in a way that is good for us. Just because you don’t see the result of the dua sometimes that doesn’t mean it was not heard or accepted.

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Dear Thornewood9, it is necessary for people to have some very basic understanding of things before they talk about deen of islam. Here is the link to my explanation of things please find some time to read it and than let me know your view about it. It is a long article but well worth for people who wish to learn things about deen of islam.

regards and all the best.

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I went through the videos you posted. Not relevant to the topic. What can I say?

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Peace Mughal1

You still have not answered me … You have failed to provide any evidence or proof that Muslims blame God for their ills … or provide the evidence that suggests the idea of Qadr was invented for this reason …

In reality you wish to refute the established belief of Qadr and wish to apply a rationalist view of it.

Please accept this - you do not even need to apologise, merely state clearly that you have done this, then I will let it go …

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Dear kakaballi, have you been through the provided links in post 32? That is where all the needed explanation is given. Video are put up to show that there is such a thing called mullaism. Not just among muslims but nonmuslims as well. What mullaism does is explained by the quran itself ie the way it derails people from deen of islam.

regards and all the best.

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I went through post 32 again. It is a wall of text with little structure.

The videos were two mushairas in India. Not relevant to topic. The videos posted above are not relevant to the topic either.

Why do you expect people to go through the bombardments of videos without you giving any context to them? They look like spam and nothing else.

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Dear kakaballi, are you expecting to become a learned person without going through the needed hard work by yourself. You cannot rely on others to give you cake in the plat to eat son. others can only help a little but most of the work has to be carried out by yourself if you want to know things. In the wall of text I explain things from my point of you not yours. I already asked for link to your point of view so that if you have explained things any better I could learn from that. You have not provided anything and are only arguing for argument sake. This is not the mindset, attitude and behaviour conducive to learning. I do not argue with people by putting up one liners because my point is helping others learn and if anyone has something better than what I offer then I may do the same ie learn things of them. I do not come along needlessly and try to undermine others without having anything worthwhile to contribute. So kindly come out of your comfort zone and please contribute sensibly to that end.

The context in which I am talking is, originality of the text of the quran beyond any reasonable doubt. The reason I did that was because if the text of the quran itself is doubtful anything else we say about it will be useless. If you are aware the quranic authentic is under heavy attack by nonmuslims but it is mullahs who have given the opportunities to them to do that through some reports in the hadith books which tell us the quran is incomplete.

Beside that I have explained away many other arguement agauinst the quran by nonmuslims. One cannot know all this till one reads the writings. Yes they are very long texts but if you have read tafaseer on the quran one will find a tafseer of the quran in hundred volumes. Of course it is not necessary for everyone to have very long text to have sense of things but some do need that long text. If you need less then you may have produced soemthing better but I am not aware of it. I am only making you aware of what I have done so when you make me aware of anything better I will gladly accept your invitation to comment on your work. Meanwhile you should show good spirit and do what needs to be done.

You will find a lot more answers to your lot more questions in my these writings but if I have not touched on something then you can bring that too to my attention and I will see if I can offer anything yet more to include answers to those questions as well.

Here also my point is mullaism exists among muslims and that mullaism is responsible for state of muslim ummah. I have explained the psychological tricks and mechanisms whereby mullaism brain washes people and the reason it does it for. This needs quite a bit of explanation for muslims because most of us are ignorant, illiterate, uneducated, untrained, unskilled and unthinking people. If we are any better we will not be in this state of existence as we can clearly see by our own eyes.

Make beliefs helped dominant people brainwash or condition submissive people through doctored indoctrination. This is why belief about QADR is of high importance. The context in which mullahs explain worship, reward and punishment, intercession and forgiveness or atonement as well as hereafter are a proof that mullahs are part of the ruling elite and money lending gang. They try to provide legitimacy for all the religious nonsense in the name of God and his revelation. I am explaining how they do that and why they do it. So people who are interested in finding out have no choice but to read my explanation and see it for themselves whether what I have explained makes sense or am I talking utter nonsense. That is all. If I am talking rubbish then people should remain stuck to whatever they already believe otherwise they will have to find alternative explanation. That is all. If you are not interested in reading my writings then I cannot force you do that but then whatever you will say about my writings will not carry much weight and there is no point in arguing for sake of argument because then there is nothing there to learn from each other, is there? May be you will reconsider your stance in this regard. BTW I am not talking about post 32 but links given in there.

Nonetheless regards and all the best.

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If by this you mean related to us, then that is true for our every action.

But Allah still knows what will happen, and nothing, as in like nothing in this world happens without His will… not even a leaf moves without His will so how can we take any action, good or bad without His will? Meaning whatever happens is with His will but then we can’t blame our bad deeds on this theory either. It’s confusing.

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The rest of your post is again unrelated to the topic at hand.

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Dear kakaballi, first of all, I have no idea who is educated and who is not or to what level on this forum. Secondly, My responses are general not addressed to anyone just for sake of explanations of things from my point of view in case anyone is interested in knowing alternative point of view. However, if anyone responds then I do share further information if I have to and the reason for giving links is because I have collected my thoughts in one place. It saves me writing same thing over and over again and again. Sometimes I do copy paste as well from whatever I have written already just to bring things to attention of people just as other people bring things to my attention. In other words this is how we learn from each other by way of trying to get explanations of each other about various things.

Whenever we talk about things, deen of islam is always part of it and deen of islam is dependent upon the quran so it become necessary to let people know what the text of the quran means in its own context as I understand it. This does not mean whatever I am saying is the only right thing but it is till someone explains it even better. The main things is rules of interpretation of the quranic text which are unchallengeable. So long as any interpretation of the quran is based upon those rules it cannot be wrong provided it is logical and consistent. All interpretations of the quran by mullahs are not based upon concrete rules and that is why they are full of mistakes and most of them came after people chose alternative to deen of islam in form of religion of islam. This is why these interpretations turned deen of islam irrelevant.

This thread is about duaa and taqdeer this is why I explained words duaaa and gave link as well so that people could see more detailed explanation there. The reason is so that people do not waste time in inquiring and responding one question at a time and throwing about verses of the quran or hadith reports. That is not the way to understand the quran or the hadith. To undersatnd the quran or hadith people need to go through whole of the quran to see what context one can get from the text of the quran. Whatever context one comes up with that is free of conflicts within and with respect real world realities that is the correct meaning of a verse in which one should use it. Merely quoting verses of the quran or their translations are no use for this purpose because people do not have any idea what the other related verses mean and whether a translator got it right or wrong.

All of my posts are very much relevant because I am putting forth related ideas which also need to be accommodated because it is also possible that one talks about one thing but contradict all the others being unaware about them. All dots need to be found out and connected together so that everything makes sense. This is why all people who have partial information and understanding of things cannot get out of confusion. On top of all this we have people whose job it is to confuse other people so that they fail to find any concrete answer which unites humanity. In my explanation of things I tried to take away this opportunity from all those who claim to be muslims or nonmuslims to divide humanity to continue their dirty game to make people divide and keep them divided and in painful suffering thereby.

This is why it is important that people educated themselves and see who is playing games with them so that they become alert and move away from supporting such people who are in actual fact responsible for their painful suffering. They are both religious as well as secular. Deen of islam does not suit agendas of both of them because on one hand mullahs want to rule the world and on the other the secular. Deen of islam on the other hand is basically all about brotherhood of humanity for the good of all human beings.

This is why mullahs invented maslae taqdeer so that kings have a free rein. Allah has provided mankind with all they will ever need but he has provided them with guidance for its production and distribution so that needs and wants of all people are fulfilled satisfactorily through proper management of land and resources by way of proper organisation and regulation of humanity into a proper human community.

Mullahs tell people all things belong to Allah and it is Allah who has made people rich and poor so people must accept this situation as it is and try to live life as best as they can ie live with it and not complain about it and wait for browny points instead to be rewarded in hereafter. A very cunning trick for getting free labour. This is why mullahs invented the idea of ZAKAAH in the sense we know it today whereby people are given the hope of help and not actual help. Charity and many other idea have been brought in to keep people at bay this way so that they do not rise against the rulers, money lenders and mullahs. These tricks and mechanisms worked for a while but ultimately things were turned upside down by way of bloody revolutions when people became fed up with tricks and mechanisms of rulers, money lenders and mullahs. These are the facts which mullahs try their best to hide in their quranic translations. This is how they clothe truth with their falsehood in order prevent education based revolution. That is what the quran is about ie it about helping people change their world for the betterment of themselves through education and training.

The quran is a book that deals with real world issues not imaginary world issues as mullahs will have us believe. Since people have been fooled by each other so they are running to all sorts of people to find out what future holds in store for them. Watch tv programs, ads in papers and magzines etc. Why people have job problems? Why all other kinds of problems? It is because people have fallen out with each other so each and every person is living for himself having no concern for anyone else other than as a rival and predator to hunt down each other. This is why people want to know what taqdeer holds for them because they have been made to think they cannot escape whatever Allah has decided for them. Why people think that way? It is because mullahs interpreted the scriptures that way so that people think that way. Kings were put in place and people were told by mullahs that kings are put in place by God so whatever they do it the will of God so accept the will of God and live with it.

Now look at videos again and see if you can understand why my posts are relevant to topics but in a very different way than one is directed to think either by mullahs or secular. My explanations are deen based explanations that is why they are very different and make no sense till they are seen in their own proper context. This is like we both have our own pieces of jig saw puzzles very different from each other and when we try to build those jig saw puzzles one of us is stuck with pieces that do not fit together at all. The other way to look at it is that we each have two different translations of the quran and one of us is trying to fit one piece of translation of one translation into the other so it looks out of place. This is why each translation needs to be read through on its own to see what the translator is actually trying to convey as the actual message of the quran as per his own understanding of the text. If one translation of the quran in a language was ok then why have many others? It is because each of the translators felt he has seen some lacks in the other translations so one rather have his own version to express one’s alternative ideas.

However the question is, if there is has to be an alternative translation then there have to be some key differences otherwise what is the point of having an alternative translation? Yet if we put together all translations we see them as copies of each other and there is no real individuality aspect in them. So why these people wasted their own time and time of other people if they had nothing significantly different to share? Something very odd is going on among mullahs of various sects ie they are together in making fool of masses. Rulers rob their people by force by putting heavy taxes on them but mullahs make them empty their pockets through making them tremble with fear of God or for acting as intermediaries between them and God. So there are very many points that converge on a very same topic.

I means there is a huge difference between ideologies of people who are looking for supernatural helpers from God and people who know they are on their own and all God has done is provided them with his guidance to act on it. This is why people who look for supernatural interventions sit idle and end up destroyed but those who know they depend upon their own efforts carry on doing what they know needs to be done to make progress. No surprise there why this ummah is in the state of existence that it is. Because its mullahs have told it that help is going to come from God to change things for the better for them. Meanwhile other people went ahead and did what was needing doing and overtook this ummah by surprise and are now sitting on top of these people as their masters. The fact is Allah does not change state of existence of a people just by sending them guidance but he wants them to act on it and change their own state of existence for the better and unless they will do that outcome will be no change. If there is no change then that means a people are a dead people because sign of living people is changes they bring about constantly in their societies. Life means movement.

regards and all the best.

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As-Salam Alaikum

This actually does sound like the rules our scholars employ to understand the Quran

Are you sure you have enough knowledge about us to say what we do and do not do?

Was your father and family upon roughly the same school of thought as yourself? If yes, then you will have to come talk to us to understand another point of view. It does appear that you do not even understand the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah

As for pre destination, my claim is that it is written in Al-Lawh Al-Mahfooz. What is written in will happen and what is not written in it will never happen. Supporting this belief is the UNSHAKEABLE Belief that The Knowledge of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala is Absolute.

How does such a claim stand in light of your understanding of the Quran?

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As-Salam Alaikum

How do we interpret the above Hadith?

I have found these short videos by Mufti Akmal, who is someone I learn from

Pakistan friendly link to above video: http://www.ytpak.com/?component=video&task=view&id=4sVCOGxXvdo Pakistani link: http://www.ytpak.com/?component=video&task=view&id=B7DptaxHsXo

The aqeedah i walk around with says pre destination can not be changed, and that is supported in the video?], but the wording of the Hadith is different. Surely the subject of the Hadith is only an apparent Qadr? I am confused, looks a long way down both ways on this tightrope

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Wa’alaikumuSalam brother vroom

These subjects are best dealt with by people who are experts in aqeedah, ilm ul kalam, etc … The way I have been taught about qadr is that it is being constantly written … and since for Allah (SWT) past, present and future is indifferent hence He Knows what is to be written and what is being written in the same way as He Sees what was written in the past.

Free Will is the effect of Allah (SWT) facilitating our choices and Qadr is when all choices converge to the same event. Not all choices converge … and du’a will avert the Qadr in an amazing way. Let’s say a certain person has something destined for him, he supplicates, then Allah (SWT) changes this Qadr, but then Allah (SWT) Knew that would happen, thus an alternative configuration occurs, but then the person supplicates, the paths are changed but that was always known by Allah (SWT) and so on … Since we are finite beings even if we make a thousand choices in thousand different alternative realities - Allah (SWT) being Inifinite can easily account for all of them and Know them all.

So Qadr can also be the possible world as well as the necessary world … In short we believe in full freedom of will and full qadr in the sense that they seem to play off each other or are in a state of tension with each other … that is acceptable for us … we can live with tensions not contradictions, and since there is a viable explanation in two different thought models then it means they should be treated separately and not conflated … The claim that these are in contradiction is not true - they are in a state of flux … imagine a ball bouncing between two positions very fast … they are in concurrent equilibrium - call it a tension or a balance … but not a contradiction.

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@mughal I read your link and made points. Everyone else just read my summary. Do not waste your time reading this link. Rant
] Long winded explanation on language and development.
] Allah sending Qur’an in Arabic language. Arabic not fully developed language. This is false.
] need to learn from people who know about language. However scholars in Islamic knowledge are learned in Arabic language too. So your claim that scholars don’t know about Arabic language is wrong. Nouman Ali Khan is a teacher of Arabic language. He studied it and is still studying it.
] Long paragraph on language again with mistakes. Example of Makkah/bakkah is wrong. Makkah was called Bakkah in time of prophet Ibrahim AS just like Medina was Yathrib before Prophet pbuh.
] Point about Quran being written is confused. The Quran was written down during time of prophet but was only collected by Uthman RA after prophet pbuh passed away. Uthman RA sent ONE copy everywhere and this is why all Qur’an’s do not have different spelling. Also the vowel marks came when Islam spread only to help teach people how to read and speak Arabic. So you’re point is pointless. This is just history and doesn’t mean Quran is any less a miracle.
] Also Arabic during the time of prophet was a language at its peak. It was perfect because Arabs perfected it through poetry and stories etc. This was one reason why Arabs were so proud of their language. Arabic at that time was not confused or random. Again this is history.
] Nouman Ali Khan who is a student and teacher of Arabic can explain your questions about Arabic. Please refer to his videos.
] Also we have the original Quran that was distributed by Uthman RA today and it proves that Quran had not been changed. Not sure what your point is.
] You assume Arabs did not know their own language. Again you need to look at history. You are misinformed and confused.
] Prophet pbuh did not write Qur’an. He ordered others to write some ayahs down but again not sure what your point is. As for no bismillah before surah nine there are explanations for this. Refer to videos by nouman Ali khan.
] Quran is preserved by Allah. He states this Himself in Qur’an.
] What’s your point about Quran?
] You say hadith is not important. This is false the Qur’an clearly states that to follow Allah you should follow the messenger. We do this by following his sunnah aka hadith. Also prophet was known as Walking Quran. So to not follow the prophet as out role model is ridiculous. Qur’an does not give us direction on how to pray we learnt this from our prophet. In Quran Allah said we have to pray but How? This we learn from the PROPHET.
] Quran should be studied in light of its language. Yes BUT you also need to know history of surahs and ayahs. Where they were revealed, why, to who, what situation? Some surahs are makkan some madani how do you explain that? You are misinformed and confused.
] Confused story about Adam AS gathering community of humans? Qur’an clearly tells story of Adam AS and how he was created. Where did you get this other stuff from???
] So you’ve basically made up your own version of Qur’an. You don’t believe in Iblis being a real person. Shaitan is not real. Supernatural things are not real. Again you are confused and misinformed. Jinn and angels exist. Prophet Jesus AS IS fatherless. He was a miracle birth. So are you saying Maryam AS had a partner? Astaghfirullah. Quran CLEARLY states the story of Maryam and CLEARLY states that Jesus AS had NO father. Allah needs say only BE and it is. What Qur’an are you reading??? Have you even read it???
] 1400 years of scholarly wisdom cannot be put aside and we do our own interpretation. This is sheer arrogance. And stupidity.
] Your idea that miracles are non existent is wrong. Quran clearly states several miracles and Qur’an is an actual miracle itself.
] Very LONG POINTLESS post. Which wasted my time. And has no relevance to topic of dua or qadr.
] Long winded ranting disjointed and confused. Not impressed. You are misinformed. You have not backed anything up with references or even ayah. Upu gave made up your own translation of what you think Quran and Islam is. You have made up your own version of prophet stories. You are confused.
] I am fed up after reading your pointless post. You have not answered any of my questions. Waste if time.

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@mughal Just a quick reply to your zakaah statement that it was invented by mullahs. You have obviously blinded yourself with your hatred of mullahs that you are making up all kinds of nonsense. Zakat was decreed by Allah as stated in Qur’an not just to our prophet Muhammed pbuh but also the prophets who came before.

[21:73] “We made them (Abraham and his sons) imams who guided in accordance with our commandments, and we taught them how to work righteousness, and how to observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and the obligatory charity (Zakat). To us, they were devoted worshipers.”

[2:215] “They ask you about giving: say, “The charity you give shall go to the parents, the relatives, the orphans, the poor, and the traveling alien.” Any good you do, God is fully aware thereof.”

[9:60] Charities(Sadaqaat) shall go to the poor, the needy, the workers who collect them, the new converts, to free the slaves, to those burdened by sudden expenses, in the cause of Allah, and to the traveling alien. Such is GOD’s commandment. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.

[2:3] who believe in the unseen, observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and from our provisions to them, they give to charity.

[2:43] You shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and bow down with those who bow down.

[2:83] We made a covenant with the Children of Israel: “You shall not worship except GOD. You shall honor your parents and regard the relatives, the orphans, and the poor. You shall treat the people amicably. You shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat).” But you turned away, except a few of you, and you became averse.

[2:110] You shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat). Any good you send forth on behalf of your souls, you will find it at Allah. Allah is seer of everything you do.

As you can see this is all Quran. There is proof that Prophet Ibrahim AS was commanded to zakat and so were the Jews. There is proof that we are to believe in the UNSEEN and we are obligated to do zakat. And there is proof that zakat is to go to the poor the orphans and needy. Not to mullahs. You are blinded by mullah hatred. Also teachers like Omar Suleiman Nouman Ali khan Yasir Qadhi hamza Yusuf and Saad Tasleem are not mullahcs. You need to stop focusing on the few crazy mullahs and find the true teachers of Islam. You are not allowed to make up your own version of Islam just because you think there are a few bad mullahs out there. Don’t be ridiculous.

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Thank you dear thornewood for your input. You have every right to have your opinion about things just as I or anyone else. I am afraid noman ali has yet to learn things and hopefully he will because future belongs to highly learned youngsters otherwise things are going to become yet more difficult for this ummah than they already are. In my view you also have yet to learn a lot of things to reach the status of knowledge that is required by the quran for its proper understanding and I hope that you do. May be one day noman and you as well as many others will be able to see what I have written in its proper context.

God bless you with all the best.

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Wa alaikum salaam dear vroom. I am afraid I cannot start a detailed discussion over things I have explained already in detail from my point of view till people learn things and accept my explanations or offer better explanations themselves. Otherwise people talk pass each other and do not learn from each other.

If people know urdu, I have put up enough information for them as well to make them think but each person reaches a stage of learning all by oneself in ones’ own way in one’s own time or that each of us learns at one’s own pace. No matter how clever one may think one is, yet one cannot teach a child all one wants to teach overnight. Each person has to find his own way to the truth whatever it may be. Humanity as a whole has a long way to reach where it needs to be to benefit from the revelation of its creator. It is not where it was since its origin rather it has moved on but still there is a very long way to go.

Please be rest assured that I am aware of a lot more than what I have been able to write down so far. I do not get involved in sectarian nonsense. It is therefore better that people read what I have written to come out of their comfort zones and think and do what needs to be done otherwise things are not going to change for the better. If we will keep hiding in holes like foxes then we will be smoked out by those who wish to enslave us to keep us enslaved to use and abuse us simple minded human beings. The quran is a book for education based revolution in order to take humanity to highest level of its development and progress.

As for qadr, just know this that when it comes to absolute or fixed knowledge then choice becomes eliminated because it is one or the other.

When we talk about knowledge of Allah, we must remember that Allah is a limited being as well because he is not a man but a God. Being a God limits Allah in many ways ie he cannot be expected to be like his creatures in any way in his existence or in his actions. Allah is ever existing is logical and consistent but knowing all already and having ability to choose are limited by each other. If we accept the knowledge of Allah is fixed in every way then we have no choice but to accept that Allah is bound by what he knows already so he cannot choose to do anything otherwise than what he knows already. For example, if Allah always knew he was going to create this universe then had he any choice in not creating it? If he did not create universe then what happens to his already knowing that he was going to create the universe?

This is why we have no choice but accept that some attributes of Allah are necessary for completeness of his being but others are necessary for completeness of his ability to do things. So Allah always had essential knowledge which enabled him to think, plan and do things as well as he had ability to know things as per his planning ahead and doing things depending upon his purpose for doing something. This is why, qadr is something to do with his planning and execution as per his purpose for doing all this. Allah did not know whether he was going to create this world or not but he was able to think out and do things as he pleased so at one stage of his existence in his time scale he thought of creating this world so he planned all he needed to plan and then executed his plan and here we are. Because it was Allah who planned each and everything so he knew what he wanted out of all this exercise therefore he put in place directors to ensure end result ie in a way he set up a closed loop system. This is why we see that the universe works in a particular way and not haphazardly or randomly. We have been given ability to choose within already set conditions this is why we cannot escape those set limits. Our choices are limited by end purpose of Allah. All this is explained in detail within the quran and that is why people need to educate themselves to be able to understand it properly. When people will do that a new world order will become a reality as told in the quran but till then we are just blind mice running around in a maze not knowing what is going on.

The main thing to realise is that Allah is as powerful and knowledgeable as he has shown us through his creation and revelation. In other words this is the best Allah could do. We know only a little bit of it so far but he has created us human beings to show us his glory through his guidance and our own effort to follow it. We have yet greater discoveries to make than we have done so far. It is because we have yet to reach the farthest galaxies and stars to realise actual glory of our creator and sustainer to see his greatness before our very eyes. We are the best creatures of Allah and he is waiting for us to prove it to ourselves and our creator. This is why he did not create us as his slaves to keep banging our head on the floor thinking we are rendering a great service to our creator. The real service is knowing ourselves and our creator through his creation and revelation. This is why knowing both the creation and revelation is essential for us to become really awestruck by our wonderful creator and sustainer. In fact one day we humans will surprise ourselves how clever we are and that is how glory of our creator will become obvious to us through our own learning and creativity. Something mullahs have no sense of, this is why they are trying to keep people illiterate, uneducated, untrained, unskilled and unthinking. They are not serving purpose of Allah but satan and satan is any person who opposes the purpose Allah has created everything for and therefore misleads oneself and others for his lower ambitions and desires ie to rule people and use and abuse them instead of setting them on the course that Allah has provided for mankind.

regards and all the best.

Re: Why make Dua when everything is pre written??

@mughal
Again you have not replied to any of my questions. Either you know you are wrong and have no answers or you are just ignoring them. Which is fine. You initiated a conversation and then refuse to continue it. After I actually read your link and gave valid answers to it, it is plain rude to now just ignore my questions. Yes everyone has a right to opinion however when I have given your opinion a reply you refuse yo answer it. I also find it extraordinary that you say Nouman Ali Khan is young and still needs to learn. Of course everyone still needs to learn but the fact is the learning you say you have has not been backed up by any qualification whatsoever. At least Nouman Ali Khan has the necessary qualifications to be a da’ee. That’s his job and he speaks to millions all the time. You say you’ve learnt a lot yet refuse to give the background of where this knowledge came from. The conclusion I came to after reading your link was that you have invented your own version of Islam. What is your answer to my questions? About zakat? Adam AS story? And so on? You don’t have any cause you know you’re wrong and you’ve made it all up. With no references either. I hope you are guided to the true path and this delusion you are living in is removed from you. And if you are Muslim I find it frankly rude that you don’t end with salaam.
Walaikumasalaam warahimatullahi wabarakatuhu. THIS is the appropriate response.