Why make Dua when everything is pre written??

Hope someone can answer my doubt…it is written in the Quran that Allah has said that if we make Dua to him sincerely he will certainly respond. I have also read that Dua also has the ability to change one’s fate.

But my question is if our fate is already pre-written ( marriage for example) what is the point of making that dua? If I’m making lots of dua to Allah swt for a certain relationship to work out, will that change my fate? Or is it pointless to make dua for it cus Allah swt has already kept someone else for me and whether I make dua or not I will marry that person anyway??

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Think of it this way.

God has written various versions of your life story.
Depending on your actions, your ambitions and your prayers, he leads you into one of the versions. :slight_smile:
Your sincere prayers and good deeds will lead you into the one that is good for you.

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Your destiny is pre written, but if you want a certain thing to happen then start praying since you do not know what is written. Inaction would mean inaction was written for you. It does not mean that even if you sit at home you will be transported to work because work was written for you. The world is here for whoever goes and earns/gets, and the hereafter is for whoever earns/gets

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This is the way predestination should be explained to everyone who wants to believe it or must believe it. This makes more sense than saying, God has destined you to a certain fate and no matter what you do it won’t change. It leaves no room for Dua but when you say, God can choose a version of your life story depending on your actions then that gives hope to people who think “Kismat main jo likha hai woh to hoke hi rehta hai.”

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Peace princessnadia87

The purpose of du’a is to become closer to Allah (SWT) … You may ask from Him whatever you like … But realise this that He has already pre-destined for you a path that is better for you than you can realise for yourself …

It is therefore a better du’a to make that Allah (SWT) puts sakinah and khusu in your actual destiny for you rather than for you to keep trying and trying to combat your destiny through a du’a that may stem from your nufs and not from what is khair. It does not mean you should not try … Yes … Try to make du’a in accordance with your desires as a means to bring you closer to Allah (SWT) when you get deliverance on those requests … But be more concerned about becoming content with Allah (SWT) with whatever destiny is chosen for you.

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Yes. Sometimes what looks bad to you may lead into good.
And sometimes what looks good to you and you crave, may harm you later and God prevents you from achieving that desired goal of the moment, for your own good.

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It is my understanding, that the pre-determined embrace of destiny is vast. There is a huge exploratory playing ground that mandates and emphasizes on the significance of action-result relationship. To think of destiny in nature, I would say:

For instance, an apple tree is destined to produce only apples, and will never produce grapes. A Neem tree will never produce banana. A human will never conceive and give birth to a fish, or oranges, and a fish will never give birth to a man. The rivers must only flow down into the sea and oceans. The earth will eventually cease to exist; a person alive must die. Adam (peace be upon him) was to be born on earth, and Islam was to be revealed through the finality of Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him). To be born in the family of kings, or in the family of poor villagers.

These are the unchangeable, immutable embrace of pre-determination. Then, for every individual there are many provisions, facilities, comforts, conveniences, benefits, blessings prepared, fixed and allocated for you and I as a Mercy from Allah as one’s base bundle. Imagine living in a home without a kitchen, or a washroom, and coming from a long tiring journey to such a home. Some people actually have such homes. But the things fixed for you, are not the things fixed for me. So Allah has prepared for you many things to get you started, including health, family ties, roof, intellect, rizq, etc. He also placed for you limits and the limits for you are not the same limits He placed for me.

In Addition, Allah gave you the opportunity to make autonomous effort towards achieving personal goals in this life instead of limiting you to base provisions, and he gave you the opportunity to make dua to Him directly to supplement the personal efforts. Allah has made it clear in the Quran that no soul shall bear the burden of deeds of another soul, nor shall any soul achieve anything without struggle or an effort (i wish i could quote exactly where I read it right now…).

But, one’s actions and efforts are a REQUIRED component, albeit not sufficient for change. Only Allah (alone) is The sufficient. This is just my own understanding. Allah knows best.

It is true that it is possible that whenever you or I raise our hands to ask, God grants it! But, in order for that to be possible, we must first raise our station to such a high degree in the sight of Allah, and by the time we get there, most of the worldly things become insignificant anyways.

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So many awful situations a person ends up in are by our their own negligence and laziness. I think duas help you make the right choices in the situation. Same for sadqas.

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It’s said that even your asking was destined by Allah. Is this true?

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I beg to differ with this part. God can grant us what we want even if our station isn’t raised to a very high degree. He is The Generous and The Forgiver.

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Prayers and our actions both are important in shaping up our fate. Remember prophet Ibrahim prayed for a messenger that was answered in form of the holy prophet (pbuh). Hazrat Umar (ra) accepted Islam as a result of acceptance of holy prophet’s (pbuh) prayer for him. Imminent divine punishment was averted when Jonah(as)'s people did taubah and prayed.

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No.
Allah is aware of all that is to happen. That much is true.
The idea of God’s puppeteering is wrong and misguided in my understanding.

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Ask Allah to grant you a happily marries life with a wise and respectful man. If that is what you find in your destiny, it should not matter what the name of the man is. Do not be so hung up on the name and appearance of a someone now, that you may not be able to appreciate something even better for you. Ask for khair always.

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but how do you know that what is in front of you is what is best for you? I mean, I hear alot of people say this, that “whatever will happen, will happen because it is God’s will”. So, if it is NOT God’s will for you to marry that guy, or whatever else you wish for, then if you do dua, God might listen and make it work out for you anyway?

like the example given previously.. if it is God’s will for you to work, you still have to put effort into it. You can’t just sit there and wait for something to happen. but if all that effort is in vain, how would you know, what is that breaking point?

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^^this is what makes it even more confusing.

if something good happens, it is said that it was kismat. if something bad happens, it is said that it is the person’s fault. how do we determine the difference? everyone has a different life, and not everyone is happy in their situation. therefore, God has chosen some to be happy about certain things, and sad about others. so how do we know if the “bad” can also be God’s will, that he wanted that bad to happen, and sometimes even continues it, regardless of how much a person prays. I hope that makes sense

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but this is the aqeedah we all have Alhamdulilah, whether taqdeer is good or bad we believe it is from ALLAH and we accept it, i hope you know this thing, comparing others good with our bad, can be compared our good with others bad, so this is life, this is test, ALLAH speaks about in Quran, all you need to have tawwakal Allal Lah, things become easy :slight_smile: see we can write Alhamdulilah others have no hand, may ALLAH pak make things easy for you!!Ameen

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Not necessary that the good doesn’t happen because of duas. I know people who got out of accidents easier because they made sadqas before the journey. The accident was meant to happen and they were not meant to die. That’s kismet. They hobbled away with a sprained ankle rather than glass in their face could be the power of praying for a safe journey and sadqa.

Life is a test of both good and bad. Someone with the best life could be accumulating a lot of gunnah and flopping miserably. Dua could give them a miserable life but take them away from the life of gunnah. So by all povs his life sucks but he just came back from guaranteed hell fire. A terminal cancer patient can have hundreds of people praying for them but it’s kismet they will die. Did the dua and tears go to waste. Not really. They’ll be compensated in the hereafter.

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**And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good tidings to the patient, **(155) Surah Al Baqarah

Do the people think that they will be left to say, “We believe” and they will not be tried?(2)

Surah Al Ankabut

Say, “Never will we be struck except by what Allah has decreed for us; He is our protector.” And upon Allah let the believers rely. (51)

Surah At-Tawba

this is verse of surah tawba good and bad is from ALLAH subhan wa ta’alla****

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Peace akaprincess

Good and Evil don’t happen to us … the way you are phrasing this is causing your confusion.

Allah (SWT) Creates the events that we choose … If we choose “good” He creates it if we choose “evil” He creates it … This is mechanism of free will.

What happens to us is merely predicament … A predicament is neither good nor evil … it is a choice situation - a test … good is the choice that is in line with the Qaza of Allah (SWT) and evil is the choice that is not in line with the Qaza of Allah (SWT). Qaza is a legislation the rules that have been given to us - the fitrah, the Qur’an and Sunnah, morality - if we breach these things then we choose evil and the effects of that evil are created by Allah (SWT).

Now a good person may be given either an easy test or a hard test and a bad person may be given ether an easy test or a hard test.

We will perceive the tests that are given to people as ill-fate or good-fate … but the reality is … fulfilment of du’a is not the mark of good-fate … because if the person makes a bad du’a and it is fulfilled by Allah (SWT) then in actual fact it comes as a hard test … because the people see it as fulfilment they think “his prayers are answered - he must be blessed” … not so … the person who is blessed is the one who draws closer to Allah (SWT) after each test … the most pious people are those who draw closer to Allah (SWT) even when their du’as are not answered …

As I said earlier … du’a is meant to be a mechanism to draw closer to Allah (SWT). It is less for the purpose of altering fate - but it does have that mechanism too … but the alteration of fate is neither a good or a bad thing it is merely a predicament change. I hope that helps.

To further clarify:

When Allah (SWT) puts his good slave in to hardship it is to elevate him in piety - if he so chooses it. When Iblees was presented with Adam for prostration it was a test and if he had passed the test he would have elevated himself, but he failed the test big time because he drew away from Allah (SWT) in his disobedience.

When Allah (SWT) puts his not so good slave in to hardship it is to shake him up a bit so he can mend his ways …

When Allah (SWT) puts his good slave in to ease it is to encourage in him the sense of shukr which will elevate him towards Himself.

When Allah (SWT) puts his not so good slave in to ease it can be a way to make him feel guilt to improve himself or it can come as a way for him to forget Allah (SWT) even more leaving him to go astray happy with the worldly delights … so good and bad do not befalls us - as such - we choose good and bad and Allah (SWT) creates them …

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when you say a person makes a “bad” dua.. do you mean bad as in, something that they are unaware is bad (like a new job that wouldn’t suit them), or bad as in - praying for something haram? and then Allah chooses the path accordingly..

I have also read that sending many duroods is one of the best ways to also fulfill your desires. I don’t have any exact quotes, but I also have read that through Prophet Muhammad pbuh will your prayers have an effect, because you are pleasing Allah’s messenger. Prophet Muahmmad pbuh is blessed by allah, and if you pray/remember him, then Allah will remember you in return. ?