for all the reasons, marrrying the person is not the only solution. So to justify 4 wives based on those does not make sense
nor is marrying for sex!!
you can do ibadat...get yourself busy with khidmat-e-khalk.....to use your 'energy'
marrying to help out women in need..is one of the many ways...
to you.....marrying for sex makes more sense than marrying the widows...or the distressed ones...so go on...satisfy your selfish desires..and deal with the consequences... *multiple marriages were performed by **responsible men who volunteered to help out women with children......to set an example for the future...apparently..that means bull to you guys.
yeah...its not....whether or not there is an abundance of women around you...so you can go on a 'marriage for sex' spree.....its not just about sex....i am not sure how many times i will have to type this..i am getting sick of this now....this is absolutely ridiculous..
yeah..that was my point..i was being sarcastic..because apparently....4 wives=halal sex.....pretty much thats the limit to the reason presented.
because we are robots.
because we have no physiological/psychological obligations.
because women are objects
because a man is unable to control/tame his hawaniet
because feelings are meaningless
because being unjust is relative.
because sex is all we think about...hence all our reasoning begins and ends at sex.
Whoever made this rule...Allah or PM, Did not take Desi wifes into account ? Desi biwi is already one too many, Ek sambhali nahee jatti, Doosri Hai toauba ?
you are saying that Hukm or Polgamy is no longer valid, because the reasoning are not there?
Where in Quran and Hadees it says that this Hukm is valid till this century or till this time and after that its not.
*You are right TLK...but the conditions in which this Hukm was valid ARE NO LONGER THERE. The Hukm is STILL valid if those conditions return. *
Islam was claimed as a complete religion on the day of Last Khutba. Nothing to be added, nothing subtracted, nothing modified.
*It was also given to human beings with more than pea-sized brains to use a guide in this life. Not to be twisted for their own carnal pleasure. *
Why do you think that 4 wives issue is an excpetion?
*4 wives issue is not an exception...there is barely any reason for men in this day and age to have multiple wives. The society is different and women dont have to suffer as much as they did before if they were widowed or divorced. *
*IMHO, this 4 wives rule was created as a medicine for the injustices women suffered as a result of being widowed with young children and/or no husbands to support the family and be head of households. Because those social injustices are now tolerable to a degree (we can now work, support ourselves, get an education, etc)...we dont have to do this anymore. *
Its like taking medicine even after you are over the illness. Why stay on the pill if you dont need it anymore? After a while, your cure will become your problem. Too much of anything is bad.
do forgive me but i fail to see the point in your question.. religion is a very personal thing ...what it means to me.. is between me and Allah.. this topic was posted to get the opinion of the wider readership .. engage convo on how people in this world feel about thier spouses taking on mulitple partners..
HUH?
You say "Islam permits him to do so.. so religiously I appreciate there is not the obvious restriction"
then you go on to say, "but on a MORAL and EHTICAL grounds is it right"..
Please allow me to clarify the perepctive from which i put moral and ethical grounds..
moral and ethical from a religious standing are acceptable (if the man meets the conditions Islam imposes to take on mulitiple wives).. i am referring more so on a social level.. this topic was instigated to explore opinion on a social level as opposed to relgious hence the posting is under life and relationships..
i am interested in opinion from women (and men) of today, who go through such situations ... how they cope with sharing their spouse.. and whether on a social and human level.. does it really work like one big happy family???
If a man does not need permission.. i cant help but ask the question.. how are women equal in islam.. from where i see things, 4 women=1 man.
There are so many who will counter this and argue that although the sexes are equal they are different.. different roles.... personally i would never accept my husband taking on another wife.. even if he can afford to.. him being able to afford it or putting with the headache.. is beside the point.. my question is .. why should a woman have to share her husband.. when he has complete jurisdiction over here.
No, marrying 2nd or 3rd time is not subjected to a condition. Simply put, if he can take care of the needs of all the wives than he can marry more
PSquared, Mirch did not invent the Islam. He is simply telling you the ruling and as upsetting as it may sound to some people, this is the ruling. A man does not need the permission.