Zardari has Rs 144 billion assets, SC told

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Re: Zardari has Rs 144 billion assets, SC told

Well put Hannibal.
Pasha, does Pakistan come first or PPP leadership?

Re: Zardari has Rs 144 billion assets, SC told

Nab and Media has made Zardari 10th richest person in the world. Ha He Ha He Ha He Ha

Sure Pakistan comes first
But not like Mush
Sab say pehlay Pakistan

Aur Pakistan ko nachor lia.

I again repeat PPP is better than other 'Munafiqeen'

Re: Zardari has Rs 144 billion assets, SC told

Ehtesab’s ten-year deception

Friday, December 18, 2009

By Sadiq Saleem

The most significant question about accountability was neither asked nor answered during the Supreme Court proceedings about the NRO: If President Zardari has assets of $1.5 billion (which means $1500 million) then why only $73 million in assets were frozen or subjected to litigation abroad? Furthermore, if the case against Zardari was as open and shut as Ehtesab officials and their supporters in the media have claimed then why was it never settled in Swiss courts after ten years of proceedings before the NRO? In most countries white collar cases with a clear paper trail are resolved within a couple of years.

The terms Ehtesab and accountability were introduced in the Pakistani political lexicon by General Zia-ul-Haq when he cancelled the 1977 election on the basis of the slogan “Pehlay Ehtesab, phir intikhab” (First accountability, then elections). Since then accountability has been a selective political exercise aimed at excluding those not liked by the right wing powers-that-be. The purpose of this particular type of accountability was never to deal with the problem of corruption but to create hype about it. Hence, phrases like “Looti hui daulat qaum ko wapis kee jaye” (Return the looted wealth to the nation) are bandied about without dealing with the substantive legal issues.

The reason why former Ehtesab supremo, the notorious Saif-ur-Rehman, came up with the figure $1.5 billion as the amount “stolen” by Zardari was that it sounded good in propaganda. Otherwise his Ehtesab Bureau never really identified properties or initiated substantive cases that amounted to that value. The Supreme Court must ask the Ehtesab Bureau’s successor NAB why, if its claim of $1500 million in assets is correct, cases in international courts led to freezing of only $73 million ($60 million in Swiss courts and $13 million in the case of the Surrey Mansion in England).

No one is arguing that it is okay to have corruption of 60-70 million dollars but not of 1500 million dollars. The point is that the legal situation as described by the Ehtesab Bureau and NAB has been based on deception with political propaganda being its primary aim.

The corruption cases against Philippines President Marcos were established and settled within 3 years. In case of Pakistani politicians it was either NAB’s incompetence or the possibility that it simply did not have sufficient evidence that the cases have languished for over a decade. NAB officials, like Mr Ghazni Khan, spent a lot of time quietly briefing journalists about corruption allegations so that they continue to have their jobs but the fact remains that their former boss Lt General Shahid Aziz has virtually admitted that the pace of proceedings in NAB cases was determined by political considerations.

Filing cases in Pakistan was easy, especially after the creation of special accountability court. But for real propaganda some independent action was required internationally. Saif-ur-Rehman’s Ehtesab Bureau discovered international laws against money laundering and filed cases in Switzerland and England to further the impression of “massive” corruption.

Few Pakistani media organizations could cover proceedings in Switzerland allowing the Ehtesab Bureau or NAB to explain the legal complexities whichever way they liked. The justified distaste for corruption in the country helped. If you create the perception of corruption, people will hate those painted as corrupt even if no court convicts them.

In case of the Swiss case, the deception in Pakistan has surrounded the notion that it is somehow an independent case. It is not. Money laundering presupposes a crime from which money was obtained to be laundered. It is like charging someone with selling stolen goods. To prove that someone was selling stolen goods the prosecution must first prove that the goods were stolen. In case of the Swiss case against Zardari, the government of Pakistan failed for ten years to get a Pakistani court to convict Zardari of the initial crime of obtaining the money through criminal means. Without such a conviction in Pakistan there could be no case of money laundering in Switzerland.

The Swiss judicial system is based on the French system and not the British one. Under the French system, a magistrate has to first hold court proceedings to determine whether a case should be tried. For ten years beginning in 1997 the case in Switzerland was before an investigating magistrate. One magistrate decided that a trial could proceed and also imposed a fine. In the Swiss system, paying that fine would have meant accepting guilt and avoiding trial. But Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto and Asif Zardari contested the case and the investigating magistrate’s finding was overturned by the Appeals Court, bringing the case back to a new investigation magistrate. Even if the case had not been folded as a result of the NRO it would still have depended on settling cases in Pakistan.

Instead of telling the nation the fine points of Swiss law, NAB and its propaganda machine kept on talking about “looti hui daulat” and keeping the nation in frenzy against corruption without NAB doing its actual job of prosecuting cases with vigour. Now the Swiss government has clarified that the case in Switzerland was secondary to the cases in Pakistan. If a Pakistani court recognizes evidence that someone broke laws and made money through corruption, the Swiss court can charge them with laundering the ill-gotten money. In other words, Switzerland cannot try someone for selling stolen good unless the fact of the goods being stolen in the first place has been established.

The Ehtesab Bureau under Saif-ur-Rehman tried to convict Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto and Asif Zardari in Pakistan with the help of a friendly judge, none other than Malik Abdul Qayyum, whose father also was on the bench that sentenced Zulfikar Ali Bhutto to death. If that conviction had prevailed, the Swiss case could have moved on. But some readers might recall that the Supreme Court of Pakistan overturned Malik Qayyum’s conviction judgment after tapes were produced of his conversations with Saif-ur-Rehman that proved the collusion of the judge with the prosecution. In those taped conversations, Saif-ur-Rehman urged Malik Qayyum to quickly convict Mohtarma and her husband because Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was anxious to see them convicted. Quite clearly, the matter was not about rule of law but about politics.

The Supreme Court judgment on the NRO reflects a desire to re-establish the writ of law and has been widely welcomed. Hopefully it will also bring to an end the political deception and hype that has accompanied the accountability issue since the days of Zia-ul-Haq.

It was ironic that most of the key petitioners in the NRO case had a Zia-ul-Haq link. Mr Roedad Khan was the late dictator’s Interior Secretary before serving as incharge of accountability under President Ghulam Ishaq Khan from 1990-1993. He failed to bring any convictions against Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto and Asif Zardari, but has never relented in raising his voice selectively against corruption. Qazi Hussain Ahmed rose to fame as the organizer and founder of Jihad during the Zia-ul-Haq era.

With the end of the NRO, let us now let the courts settle all outstanding cases of alleged corruption under the able guidance of the chief justice. At the same time let us also understand the politics of the issue. Why are supporters of the Taliban so eager to keep the nation involved with the saga of “looti hui daulat?” Is it to keep the nation distracted from its great challenge of fighting and ending the terrorism that threatens Pakistan and is the lasting legacy of Zia-ul-Haq’s CIA-backed Jihadis’ ideology misadventure? As for the $1500 million dollars, NAB can’t get it back because it doesn’t exist or because NAB is so incompetent that it has not been able to find it in a decade.

Sadiq Saleem is a businessman and analyst based in Toronto,[email protected]

Re: Zardari has Rs 144 billion assets, SC told

Bottom line is Punjab is not ready to accept leader from other province.

Who was Bhutto
Who was Ayub Khan
Who was Yahya Khan
Who was Musharraf

Blind followers has made your thinking warped as well.

Who put Z A Bhutto and Benazir twice in PM house. Here is a hint for you, the province's name starts with P.

To keep the record straight the only province which gave Bhutto a clear majority in 1971 election was Punjab... in short Punjab was the provice who mede Bhutto a leader... not Sindh>>

Bhutto was Killed
Ayub Khan was pujabi from NWFP we was Powther Region Ayub Khan was not leader he was dictator.
Who was Yahya Khan Punjabi from phowther region he was not leader he was dictator.
Who was Musharraf is from Dheli he punjabi Dehli. Even today Punjabi is most spoken language in Dheli was part of Punjab. Musharraf was not leader he was dictator.

Totally agree with you but did Punjab Army and establishment did not accept the peoples verdict.

You're right. And it is also Punjab's fault that almost all the TV anchors are either urdu-speakers or Punjabi :)

I am a big fan of NFC award btw, giving each province it's due share. It is one of the few good things that this government has done so far.
And I just hope these are not just words but resources are actually distributed equally and fairly among the provinces

Most of them are Punjabi may one or two are urdu speaking. Yes, NFC was sign after sixty year let see if it is allowed to be implement by Punjab establisment.

Re: Zardari has Rs 144 billion assets, SC told

I am sick and tired of this communal bull**** that is not based on Islamic principles or of even simple morality. You people sicken me.

Zardari is a corrupt crook. Even his own party knows that. As for him being the 10th richest man in the world. That is not true. He is most likely the 20th. We are forgetting all the African dictators like Bashir and Mugabe who have billions of dollars hidden away in the West.

Now thats quite funny

Re: Zardari has Rs 144 billion assets, SC told

Everyone knew about the assets of others in many countries.
Those are much more than pointed about Zardari
and most of them belong to my province Punjab
Why those are spared
Why all guns against PPP

Ask Musharraf :smiley:
Why did he not include Sharifs and Chaudharies’ names in NRO list? :kursi:

These both were puppets of Establishment at their times so they never need NRO.
They are free all the time except once when N$ tried but he wise enough so signed an agreement and saved himself and his corruption.
He was not a Bhutto

This what Islam is all about. Pluralism is part of Islam. If Zardari is corrupt crook please prove it. And I will join you in call him names.

Re: Zardari has Rs 144 billion assets, SC told

It is only democracy where this S.C. is passing these type of decisions otherwise do you remember one police man catches the hairs of this C.J. and put him in a car and again put him in house arrest for four months even no one was available to cut his hairs . ( But he was having hair color so he managed to dye them)
This was party of President Zardari which freed them all .

Re: Zardari has Rs 144 billion assets, SC told

@anwar pasha.. You are a very big jiyala.. good keep it up.. zardari will save you on the day of qiyamat as well.. sharam tum ko magar nahi aati.. i am not a fan of nawaz ganja.. neither altaf kaalia.. nor i am a fan of Imran.. But i just wonder what the hell makes you think that these people are so innocent.. saalay bhaar main gaye bhuttos aur sharifs.. do you worship them??? I feel pity on people like you... when will you come out of this Idol worshipping.. Parhay likhay jaahilo... This is also Idol worshipping Mr Pasha.. When you blindly follow some1 and you are ready to anything for them.. It means you are worshipping them... Bhaar main gya zordari aur bhutto saaray aur shareef saaray.. In ki pooja mat karo...