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Haan ho sakta hai...but I think iranis don't do naqab now...I hv seen them in masjid nabawi & masjid al haram .. they have v big chadars wrapped around them from head to toe, no face covering(naqab).
What is the Arabic word for Veil BTW?
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Pardah is still forced on some women, for the rest its a choice.
Yes, media portrays only one side of the story. The side which will increase their ratings.
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What is the Arabic word for Veil BTW?
We use naqab for the face covering. I think khimar is also the same (not sure).
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Is this purdah? They are Christian nuns. By the way only a few decades back the Westerners used to wear modest clothes, see any old english movie.
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double standards?
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^ yes, I think in the name of freedom the west has gone very far away and now they want others to follow. it should be people's freedom to decide what to wear.
as far as purdah being backward is concerned, i have observed that some in affluent areas (like dha) are doing purdah, and those living in poorer localities are not observing it. nothing to do with being backward or fashionable.
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^ yes, I think in the name of freedom the west has gone very far away and now they want others to follow. it should be people's freedom to decide what to wear.
as far as purdah being backward is concerned, i have observed that some in affluent areas (like dha) are doing purdah, and those living in poorer localities are not observing it. nothing to do with being backward or fashionable.
But a lady without dupatta or chadar would be seen as alien in those poor localties
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Interesting history of western fashion. Ladies have been shown covering their heads in different style during different periods.
File:LA2-NSRW-2-0065.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
History of Western fashion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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^there is a very good talk on ted talks delivered by some fashion model over the double standards of fashion industry how they present women as commodity.
i wish i could share it here. Some of her images shown by her to prove how the industry used her are not appropriate.
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Was American women detained / secluded a hundred years ago?
Compared to today, very much. Did not even have a right to vote.
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Hijab is required- Rasullallah (PBUH) said. But he never said niqab was require however after he passed away, Aisha (R) said a few years or so later that if he were still alive he would have said niqab is required. But since it isn't Allah's words nor a hadith, it is not exactly required. Of course everyone, including scholars, have their own views on it but what we know for a fact is that modest clothing (full sleeves and legs covered till the ankles, not too fitted) is required along with hijab.
^ then how would you interpret these? Face is not a part of our bodies right?
“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)…”
[al-Noor 24:31]
“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59] –
We complicate things because we dont want to believe in them and bring out interpretations accordingly.
I once asked a niqabi in medina about why does she wear it and how does she convince herself to wear it since hijab and niqab require lots of self control and motivation? (I was too young then and didnt know much about it). She gave a beautiful answer: "Allah likes us wear hijaab and Allah likes us more wearing niqaab so I try to be amongst those who do stuff that is dearer to Allah. We are being tested during our life and will get results in the hereafter. It is just about attempting and preparing for as many questions/topics as we can so that our total score comes out good, just like we aim in any exam. We will not be asked what area we lived in or what car we owned or what brands we owned or what was our profession in the world so do not waste your time preparing for the topics that are not in our syllabus". SubhanAllah
For me, it is not about considering an islamic ruling as a backward act or a modern one. It is about it being a "ruling" that is meant to be followed no matter what era or circumstances we are in. If we follow it considering our duty as a muslim we wont be worrying about what the world thinks about us because we know the world wont come to help when we are answerable for our deeds one day.
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not exactly allhamdolillah i also do n no one said me such thing
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In terms of number i have seen more girls covering their heads/doing naqab in public here in karachi as compared to lahore.
Yeh trend mainy bhi note kiya hia....
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It is individual choice, but to me or my daughter, it is the thing of past and I abhor it throughly :)
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^ then how would you interpret these? Face is not a part of our bodies right?
“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)…”
[al-Noor 24:31]
“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59] –
We complicate things because we dont want to believe in them and bring out interpretations accordingly.
I once asked a niqabi in medina about why does she wear it and how does she convince herself to wear it since hijab and niqab require lots of self control and motivation? (I was too young then and didnt know much about it). She gave a beautiful answer: "Allah likes us wear hijaab and Allah likes us more wearing niqaab so I try to be amongst those who do stuff that is dearer to Allah. We are being tested during our life and will get results in the hereafter. It is just about attempting and preparing for as many questions/topics as we can so that our total score comes out good, just like we aim in any exam. We will not be asked what area we lived in or what car we owned or what brands we owned or what was our profession in the world so do not waste your time preparing for the topics that are not in our syllabus". SubhanAllah
For me, it is not about considering an islamic ruling as a backward act or a modern one. It is about it being a "ruling" that is meant to be followed no matter what era or circumstances we are in. If we follow it considering our duty as a muslim we wont be worrying about what the world thinks about us because we know the world wont come to help when we are answerable for our deeds one day.
This is the thing...mashaAllah you have explained clearly...thing is this jo cheez hamare nafs per giraaan guzzarti hay uakay daleelein bhut hain magar Allah subhan taAllah kay liye kiya jana wala hay amal usmain kuch bhi mushkil nahi lagta...yeh aisey hee hay kay kuch logon kay maa baap mushrik hoty hain magar hukum Allah hee deta hay kay husn e sulookmse paish aao...tu this is not hard for anyone warna exucses bhut...
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It is individual choice, but to me or my daughter, it is the thing of past and I abhor it throughly :)
Allah kay hukum mein choice doesnt matter:)
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Allah kay hukum mein choice doesnt matter:)
My Rabbji has banned it in my religion, and ethical code written before 100 years are more or less redundant :)
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It was present in almost all the cultures of world, even in some cultures men followed it.
Why it has become sign of backwardness, women detention, confiscation of human rights all of sudden.
Is this 'Allah waste ka bair' with a religion or something else?
I do find it very backward and a very sexist practice. just because some perverted men cannot control their urges doesn't mean women are the ones who must cover themselves to 'protect' themselves. i do find it very oppressive and ridiculous. modesty doesn't mean covering yourself in my opinion. a piece of cloth around your hair doesn't make you any better than a woman whos wearing a skirt. thats just my opinion
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What about the practice of ladies selling gents products like from Razor to shaving cream (in ads all around the world)? Will you also call that sexist?
