I have no intention to extend this thread any further. If you have questions .. PM me those and ill reply them.
Coming to your reply, why would you want to hear everything from me? My whole point is when a prophet prophesize something, it is *always not *to be taken exactly how its been said. This was the mistake of jews for which they rejected prophet of Allah , hazrat Jesus/Isa (AS). They believed Elijah (AS) ( a prophet prior to Jesus AS) was suppose to come down from heavens before the appearance of the Massiah (Jesus AS).. when Jews asked where Elijah (AS) is, Jesus (AS) pointed at Hazrat Yahya (AS)/John the Baptist. Now, since Jews were taking everything written in their scriptures literally, they thought Elijah (AS) was suppose to come down from heaven.. this was one of the reason of jews rejecting Jesus (AS).
Even in Quran there are direct and indirect meanings to it.. if you ask me how or when Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) defeated army of syria and iraq.. then I would say exactly how in Quran it says [17:82]And say, ‘Truth has come and falsehood has vanished away. Falsehood does indeed vanish away* fast*." if i ask you, how and where has the truth came? and how does that truth made the falsehood vanished? how would you reply? my point again is, there are two sides of a coin. You heard everything from ur ullamas without getting to know the other side of it, and then you come and start abusing other people's beliefs. There are direct and indirect meanings in Quran and ahadith. If you take every single thing from ahadith or Quran literally, your beliefs will come out as merely a fairytale and nothing else.
Truly i cannot understand why you are bringing Jesus and John The Baptist here??? What it has to do with Mirza????
From my little knowledge of Bible, I know that the Jews put three questions to John The Baptist (Hazrat Yahya (AS):
1) Are you Jesus(PBUH)??? .....He said NO.
2) Are you John The baptist (Yahya) AS???....He said NO...... Contradicting
Jesus (PBUH).
3) Are you that prophet??? Very interesting question.....A Clear prophecy
about Muhammad(PBUH)...... He said NO...
But what you want to prove from the above dialogue??
Again you misquoted the important and famous Ayat of Quran i,e 17:81..... AUR AILAN KARDE KEH HAQ ACHUKA AUR BATIL NABOOD HO GAYA, YAQINAN BATIL THA BHI NABOOD HONEY KELIYE........According to Sahih Bukhari... When at the time of Makkah conquer the Prophet used to recite this Ayat and used to destroy the idols one by one...
Do you mean that there are Ayats and Hadiths whose hidden meanings are about Mirza's coming????? Let us know that as well....I am still waiting for my Reply...Please.
If you cannot reply then admit clearly and fairly, that I have no answer and don't make a puzzle game.