"Attributing the breakup to Bhutto is just denying the actual fact."
Niden, but it is true that Bhutto refused to attend the inaugural session of the National Assembly and wanted Yahya Khan to postpone it. None of the other rightwing parties in West Pakistan wanted to attend the national assembly either because they considered any constitution that would be drawn up on the basis of Mujib's 6 points as no better than separatism.
well niden! bhutto was also responsible for breakup of Pakistan. he was also accepting the incidents and was a player of all the situation that happened!
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u cannot ignore him also dude!
Re: who broke the pakistan
I think it was the same guys that broke back mountain.
You need to read the history. 1970 elections resulted in PPP majority in West Pakistan and Awami League in East Pakistan. According to number of seats won by Awami League, it had full right to form the government because of majority winning party of combined Pakistan.
Again it was not only Bhutto, all military, bureaucracy; all politicians including JI, ML, JUP etc and co, West Pakis were against the Bengalis to rule them. Singling out Bhutto is just making him escape goat for the sins of others. They are equally responsible as Bhutto.
However General Yahya Khan had absolute power, refusal to attend assembly by Bhutto and other politicians would have zero effect had dictator allowed Bengalis to form the government to avert serious crisis. Instead he preferred military action, which was bsolutely unnecessary and foolish act by the dictator.
Re: who broke the pakistan
If it happrns now who will be responcible ?
Present Government or leaders
Of Course No
The Establishment and including Army and many others are responcible for present unrest in provinces
And leaders and beurocracy of a province, Also Judges
They always ruined everything everytime
Same was before 1971
well niden! instead of me, u need to read the history. no doubt that yahya khan was largest responsible for that but bhutto was the second responsible person for that bcoz it was his party PPP who won in west Pakistan, not yahya's ok.
and it was also against his personal interest to accept awami league mandate bcoz after that rulership would have given to mujeeb.
Not really. He offered to resign as PM if Mujib accepted the re-unification of Pakistan. But Mujib refused. Again get your facts straightenout.
well, Bhutto's power base was with the nationalist Punjabi voters who had voted him into power as a result of his distancing himself from Ayub after the 65 war and Tashkent so it seems unlikely that he could ever afford to do anything politically that would go against their wishes. Had he made any compromise with Mujib about the national assembly session it's unlikely that he would have survived politically. I am guessing he figured at that point that since the split-up of the country was inevitable, he would do what he would to ensure that he didn't lose his power base in the West.
The thing really interesting about Bhutto is that in both cases (after 65 war, and after 71 war) he based his policies on the assumption that the military was going to fail or at least he fully factored in the consequences of military failure and actually gained politically from it . ofcourse you can argue that in 65 too he was instrumental in starting the war. In fact I believe Asghar Khan accused him of deliberately instigating the war to gain politically from it.
Re: who broke the pakistan
Timing is the most important factor in the history. I still remember the day when aeroplanes were dropping the pumphlets about announcing the martial law of Ayyoub Khan. He was the man who was influencial since 47 and on advice of P.M. Liaqat Ali Khan Qauid punished him sentance to be posted without badge for a year.If Liaqat was nit assenated. he could not be promoted further, He was the main responcible for all mishaps including sepration of East Pakistan.
Timing is the most important factor in the history. I still remember the day when aeroplanes were dropping the pumphlets about announcing the martial law of Ayyoub Khan. He was the man who was influencial since 47 and on advice of P.M. Liaqat Ali Khan Qauid punished him sentance to be posted without badge for a year.If Liaqat was nit assenated. he could not be promoted further, He was the main responcible for all mishaps including sepration of East Pakistan.
politicians had nothing to do with army doing operation in East Pakistan, is it? Lets assume for a second that military started operation in E Pakistan on its own, what did political leadership including Bhutto do? Did he cry to stop army?
A good point. Please read my posts again. West Pakis including Punjab was totally against Bengalis to rule. Instead of taking sane decision by leadership of the time, the dictator started military action, which was totally uncalled for. Bengalis had enough sufferings from West Pakis, they could not take any more nonsense. Resut-Bengla Desh-Break of Quaid Pakistan, failing the 'do qaumi nazaria'.
well niden! what do ya think Pakistanis are? u say us pakis? ehh? and what about the indiz and brities americies?
sara gund yahan hi akatha hona tha Pakistan me aur GS me!
bhutto k paas agar army ko roknay ki authority nahe thi na to us ne army ko apna kaam kernay se roknay k liye kuch kaha bhi nahen tha. uski support bhi shamil thi isme aur humaari apni jaahil qaum ki bhi jo east aur west Pakistan dono se thi.
dono ki jahalat aur hukamraanon ki jahalat shamil thi aur dushman ne apni poori makkari dikhai aur khoob faeda uthaya. agar aesa na hota to usko mun tord jwab milta aur kabhi kisi dushman ki himmat na hoti Pakistan ko maili nazar se dekhnay ki!
A good point. Please read my posts again. West Pakis including Punjab was totally against Bengalis to rule. Instead of taking sane decision by leadership of the time, the dictator started military action, which was totally uncalled for. Bengalis had enough sufferings from West Pakis, they could not take any more nonsense. Resut-Bengla Desh-Break of Quaid Pakistan, failing the 'do qaumi nazaria'.
I know the insane leadership started bloodshed, but why did they start? Couldn't politicians step up and told army to stop and that they would allow Bengalis to form the govt, but politicians decided to create their own 'do-qaumi nazaria' i.e. Bengalis and non-Bengalis.
Re: who broke the pakistan
When Pakistan army started massive murder atrocity of its own people, obviously the people rebelled and didn't want to be part of Pakistan
Because the insane dictator and his hawaris did not want to work under Bengalis. Read the above post.
Re: who broke the pakistan
Do you want to know the turning point . No one goes to an important event. What was done after death of** Qauid-e-Azam*. Khawaja Nazim ud din was made governer genral but the same time powers of governer genral were reduced and powers of P.M. were enhanced.* This was start of play.**
I had already requested to tell about the cause of death of Hussain Shaheed Soharwardi , If some one know,
Because the insane dictator and his hawaris did not want to work under Bengalis. Read the above post.
Right, and since politicians didn't want to handover govt to Bengalis they shouted slogans "idhar ham udhar tum" and sort of joined hands with army in the persecution.
Here is some info
I am not going to argue further on this point. If you feel consolation by bringing Bhutto to save the dark and evil faces of murderers and rapists, so be it. Bottom line is dictator could have avoided the tragedy because decision lied with him not with Bhutto.
I am not going to argue further on this point. If you feel consolation by bringing Bhutto to save the dark and evil faces of murderers and rapists, so be it. Bottom line is dictator could have avoided the tragedy because decision lied with him not with Bhutto.
Had dictator hanged Bhutto and handed power over to the elected representatives today we may not be discussing this.