who broke the pakistan

east pakistan became bangla desh and pakistani government spent lots of money to investigate who was responsible for breaking of pakistan
then what happened to that report? that was i think hamoodur rehman commission report

please share your views here

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“The pakistan” :smack:

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Easy tiger. No one can stop you from starting these extremely depressing threads (child abuse, female mutilation, Bangladesh bla bla) all at once but dont you have any tomorrow. You may have best intentions at heart for discussing these topics but please think of others. there is a lot happening in the world at the moment. try to bring sth positive and save some of the topics for "tomorrow". And yes don't give me that "you-dont-like-my-thread-dont-open-it" line.

Peace.

i think you answered yourself just if your are interested then most welcome to put feedback otherwise i dont want someone elses time management.

if you have nothing to say about the thread keep your noses away from me

ps ho jaiy ghi

just keep your nose away

kion kia pakistan say dar lagta hai

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For beginners you could capitalize the first letter of word Pakistan to show respect, as well as Bengladesh.

There were many factors involved which resulted in the splitting of Pakistan as a whole and East Pakistan was separated from West Pakistan. Some of the speculated causes include Ego of both leaders at the time, mistrust, and others taking advantage of the divide to drive a deeper wedge between the two parts of Pakistan which resulted in east Pakistan being declared a sovereign nation called Bangladesh, and west Pakistan became known as Pakistan, and so it remains.

This is my personal opinion, the reason the investigative report (if one was made) was not followed up because it requires extensive resources and many old wounds would be reopened and timing did not favor it. I do think reconciliation efforts need to be made and both brotherly muslim nations should have common vision to boost and improve ties so both nations can prosper.

Just my two cents.

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The most compelling factor was power hungry Z A Bhutto who did not accept the mandate of people. Mujeeb-u-Rehman had a clear majority and election were fair too. Bhutto refused to accept Mujeeb's win and chanted the slogan of "udhar tum idhar hum" That made Begalis feel inferior as if they were not worthy of ruling the country. Army also had its part. India took the advantage of the situation as well. But to me the root cause was Bhutto. Ironically, Zardari is doing something similar in Punjab what Bhutto did for East Pakistan. Allah pee pee pee ko aqqal aur haddayay dey!

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^ Whoever did this is not an issue. The issue is what we learn from it and that is we need to respect views, ideas and rights of people living in our country.

Geographically apart, Culturally apart.....Bangalies were a different nation we never was a part of bangladesh.....

Can Pakistan and China be one couuntry? or can we include Yemen in Pakistan? NO.....................Bangla desh was a mistake imposed on us by the British.

I am very happy that Bangalies broke this unnatural alliance...we are different from bengalies and we Pakistanies have no regrets of their getting separated from us....

Its like weeping after 60 yrs..." O why did the English left us? We were once part of the British empore.........stop crying over spilt milk"

Pakistanies are happy that Bengal is not our part now. Bengal was a disease we never wanted!

Religion cannot bind different ethnicities together, whic is why the ummah dream will never work. What do the sindhis and pushtuns have in common but religion? Thanks for proving pakistan concept as obsolete. :rolleyes:

The Original design of Pakistan proposed by Pakistan Muslim League never contained Bengal as part of Pakistan.

In the Famous muslim leangue Annual address of 1940 it was proposed

" The province of Punjab, Sind, NWFP and Balochistan will form Pakistan"

Sind , Punab , NWFP and Balochistan are Geographically linked…sharing million of years of history culture and traditions …we have relations both blood and trade, people intermarried…businesses shared..we depend on each other so…
Quaid-e-Azam and Iqbal made us one country based on " Religion, Cultural resemblance, traditions and geographical bonding"

Now,
**What Pakistan is not : **“dont mistake Pakistan with religious union …caz if it was only a religious alliance than…it would have included Saudia, Iran, Afghanistan etc etc…being a muslim doesnt make u one country”
There are other important considerations as mentioned above.

Bengal was a conspiracy of the British…istead of giving us Kashmir and muslim majority areas of Punjab they gave us…a far fetched land good for nothing Bangladesh"

Two headed babies never suvive…and the formation of independant bengal was inevitable.

Two biggest Mistakes we Pakistanies made were:

1. Including bengal in Pakistan
2. Opening borders for Refugees from India in 1948.

Would it not be better to say that Bengalis are happier by separating from Pakistan?
Since when people of West Pakistan were suppressed by people of East Pakistan or were deprived of their rights. I have only heard it to be otherwise. Lets keep the facts straights and not twist things under the patriotism. I am a proud Pakistani myself bust we must acknowledge our mistakes and weaknesses and learn from them. It's true that East Pakistan did not make sense to be part of Pakistan because or geographical reasons but we West Pakistanis did our best to make them feel inferior. We can't separate countries only based on cultural and ethnic differences, If that is the case then India would have been divided into 20 or more countries by now.

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We did things that were wrong. That is why Pakistan was divided. You should accept that, learn from them and move on.

And we would do better if we ignore people who would post 1000s of lines just demonstrating ethnic hatred. They have nothing positive to contribute nor willing to open their minds.

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why are you deleting the facts here???

Bengals gave most for Pakistan.

Muslim league was formed over there and that person says we made a big mistake of joining them with us.

Pakistan would have never come into existence if bengals and other minoirty provinces of India did not support its creation.

Here is proof of my arguments posted above…

The famous address of 1930 by Allama Iqbal

**Alama Iqbal’s Khutba Alabad **

Allahabad Address was the Presidential Address by Allama Iqbal to the 25th Session of the All-India Muslim League on 29 December 1930, at Allahabad. Here he presented the idea of a separate homeland for Indian Muslims which was ultimately realised in the form of Pakistan.
"The principle of European democracy cannot be applied to India without recognising the fact of communal groups. The Muslim demand for the creation of a Muslim India within India is, therefore, perfectly justified. The resolution of the All-Parties Muslim Conference at Delhi is, to my mind, wholly inspired by this noble ideal of a harmonious whole which, instead of stifling the respective individualities of its component wholes, affords them chances of fully working out the possibilities that may be latent in them. And I have no doubt that this House will emphatically endorse the Muslim demands embodied in this resolution. Personally, I would go farther than the demands embodied in it. I would like to see the Punjab](Punjab - Wikipedia), North-West Frontier Province, Sind and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single State. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of North-West India.
Hindus should not fear that the creation of autonomous Muslim states will mean the introduction of a kind of religious rule in such states. I have already indicated to you the meaning of the word religion, as applied to Islam. The truth is that Islam is not a Church.
For India, it means security and peace resulting from an internal balance of power; for Islam, an opportunity to rid itself of the stamp that Arabian Imperialism was forced to give it, to mobilise its law, its education, its culture, and to bring them into closer contact with its own original spirit and with the spirit of modern times

No 'facts' were deleted here, only calling, and the off-tangent discussions that followed from there. I see no problems with what you just said below, and infact agree with it.

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Bengals gave most for Pakistan.

Muslim league was formed over there and that person says we made a big mistake of joining them with us.

Pakistan would have never come into existence if bengals and other minoirty provinces of India did not support its creation.
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So, as u can see that The Idea Allama Iqbal of Pakistani....Never included Bengal as part of Pakistan.
Later, The British made clever move and favored India..., Instead of giving Pakistan its legtimate right of inheriting Kashmir and east Punjab...they gave us Bengal. Giving Bengal to Pakistan was very unnatural...thousands of miles apart with no land route..
I hope the point is clear now....

Plus being pakistanies...over loyalties must be with Pakistan and not with Bangladesh!

Please povide some facts, I will welcome some excerpts or historic references....I provided you with fact of "** Pakistan Resolution 1930" by Allama Iqbal**

DO you have any historic reference to negate that?

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When Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnad made his first official trip to Bengal after creation of Pakistan he was hurled with eggs and tomatoes. The Bengalies opposed him strongly and disliked his proposal of Making Urdu the official Language of Pakistan