What is 'Dawn Leaks'?

Read a buzz about Dawn Leaks. WTH is it now? Why are there so many leaks now?

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Army ke ek chitar se NS ki salwar leak kar gai. That is what ‘Dawn Leaks’ are. :slight_smile: Dawn reported army’s involvement in harboring jihadis in Pakistan as strategic assets confirmed by chief ISI. Shehbaz Sharif said that government arrested them but army people let them go. Do you remember ‘Dawn’ story published in October 2016?

Pehlay information minister ke butt par laat maari ab yeh

**Tariq Fatemi removed from post by PM following inquiry into Dawn story

After following leaks in ‘Dawn’. Panama affairs appeared in the news papers. ‘loha, lohay ko is tarah se kat-ta hay’ :slight_smile: That is how your PM was responded by ‘holy cows’. It is better for him to resign after surfacing this huge money laundering case in media.

**Exclusive: Act against militants or face international isolation, civilians tell military

CYRIL ALMEIDAUPDATED JAN 09, 2017 03:32PM

**ISLAMABAD: In a blunt, orchestrated and unprecedented warning, the civilian government has informed the military leadership of a growing international isolation of Pakistan and sought consensus on several key actions by the state.
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As a result of the most recent meeting, an undisclosed one on the day of the All Parties’ Conference on Monday, at least two sets of actions have been agreed.

First, ISI DG Gen Rizwan Akhtar, accompanied by National Security Adviser Nasser Janjua, is to travel to each of the four provinces with a message for provincial apex committees and ISI sector commanders.

The message: military-led intelligence agencies are not to interfere if law enforcement acts against militant groups that are banned or until now considered off-limits for civilian action. Gen Akhtar’s inter-provincial tour has begun with a visit to Lahore.

Second, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has directed that fresh attempts be made to conclude the Pathankot investigation and restart the stalled Mumbai attacks-related trials in a Rawalpindi antiterrorism court.

Read: India links talks resumption to Pathankot probe

Those decisions, taken after an extraordinary verbal confrontation between Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and the ISI DG, appear to indicate a high-stakes new approach by the PML-N government.

The following account is based on conversations with Dawn of individuals present in the crucial meetings this week.

All declined to speak on the record and none of the attributed statements were confirmed by the individuals mentioned.

Foreign secretary’s presentation

On Monday, on the day of the All Parties’ Conference, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry gave a separate, exclusive presentation in the Prime Minister’s Office to a small group of civil and military officials.

The meeting was chaired by Prime Minister Sharif and included senior cabinet and provincial officials. On the military side, ISI DG Rizwan Akhtar led the representatives.

The presentation by the foreign secretary summarised the results of the recent diplomatic outreach by Pakistan, the crux being that Pakistan faces diplomatic isolation and that the government’s talking points have been met with indifference in major world capitals.

Examine: What should determine Pakistan’s foreign policy?

On the US, Mr Chaudhry said that relations have deteriorated and will likely further deteriorate because of the American demand that action be taken against the Haqqani network. On India, Mr Chaudhry stated that the completion of the Pathankot investigation and some visible action against Jaish-i-Mohammad were the principal demands.

Then, to a hushed but surprised room, Mr Chaudhry suggested that while China has reiterated its support for Pakistan, it too has indicated a preference for a change in course by Pakistan. Specifically, while Chinese authorities have conveyed their willingness to keep putting on technical hold a UN ban on Jaish-i-Mohammad leader Masood Azhar, they have questioned the logic of doing so repeatedly.

Extraordinary exchange

The foreign secretary’s unexpectedly blunt conclusions triggered an astonishing and potentially ground-shifting exchange between the ISI DG and several civilian officials.

**In response to Foreign Secretary Chaudhry’s conclusions, Gen Akhtar asked what steps could be taken to prevent the drift towards isolation. Mr Chaudhry’s reply was direct and emphatic: the principal international demands are for action against Masood Azhar and the Jaish-i-Mohmmad; Hafiz Saeed and the Lashkar-e-Taiba; and the Haqqani network.

To that, Gen Akhtar offered that the government should arrest whomever it deems necessary, though it is unclear whether he was referring to particular individuals or members of banned groups generally. At that point came the stunning and unexpectedly bold intervention by Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.

Addressing Gen Akhtar, the younger Sharif complained that whenever action has been taken against certain groups by civilian authorities, the security establishment has worked behind the scenes to set the arrested free. Astounded onlookers describe a stunned room that was immediately aware of the extraordinary, unprecedented nature of the exchange.**

To defuse tensions, Prime Minister Sharif himself addressed Gen Akhtar and said that policies pursued in the past were state policies and as such they were the collective responsibility of the state and that the ISI DG was not being accused of complicity in present-day events.

PM’s strategy?
Several eyewitnesses to the incredible events of Monday believe that the foreign secretary’s presentation and Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif’s intervention were orchestrated by the prime minister to stir the military to action, leading to the decision to dispatch the ISI DG on an inter-provincial tour.

Yet, according to the accounts shared with Dawn, the sparring between the ISI DG and civilian officials did not degenerate into acrimony.

Earlier in the meeting, ISI DG Gen Akhtar stated that not only is it the military’s policy to not distinguish between militant groups, but that the military is committed to that policy prevailing. The ISI chief did mention concerns about the timing of action against several groups, citing the need to not be seen as buckling to Indian pressure or abandoning the Kashmiri people.

Gen Akhtar also readily agreed to tour the provinces at the direction of the prime minister, issue fresh orders to ISI sector commanders and meet with provincial apex committees to chalk out specific actions that need to be taken in various provinces.

**According to several government officials, Monday’s confrontation was part of a high-stakes gamble by Prime Minister Sharif to try and forestall further diplomatic pressure on Pakistan. In separate meetings with the army chief, participants describe an animated and energised Mr Sharif, who has argued that Pakistan faces real isolation if policy adjustments are not made.
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**Government officials, however, are divided about whether Prime Minister Sharif’s gamble will pay off. According to one official, commenting on the ISI DG’s commitments, “This is what we prayed to hear all our lives. Let’s see if it happens.”
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Another government official offered: “Wait till November to see if action will be taken. By then a lot of things will be settled.”

Military officials declined to comment.

**Clarification:

The spok*es**man for Prime Minister Office on Thursday denied a story appearing in Dawn on Oct 6 regarding “purported deliberations” of a meeting held on security issues. The spokesman termed contents of the story not only speculative but misleading and factually incorrect, describing it as an “amalgamation of fiction and fabrication”.

Dispelling the impression created by the report, headlined “Act against militants or face international isolation, civilians tell military”, he said that intelligence agencies, particularly the ISI, are working in line with the state policy in the best interest of the nation, both at the federal and provincial levels to act against terrorists of all hue and colour without any discrimination. Indeed the Army’s and ISI’s role and contributions towards implementation of NAP have been proactive and unwavering, the spokesman said. Meanwhile, the office of the chief minister of Punjab also denied the comments attributed to Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif in the news story.

Dismissing it as a baseless table story, he emphasised that besides his respect for the institution of the armed forces, on an individual level he also had the highest respect for the present ISI DG for his professionalism, commitment to duty and sincerity of purpose.

Published in Dawn, October 6th, 2016**

Re: What is ‘Dawn Leaks’?

Apparently two moves were taken from opposite camps.

First there was a notification from PM:

And there was a tweet from DG ISPR:

Looks like someone is heading for confrontation

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This leaks is result of Indian surgical strike , When Showbaz said few hard words to … taking opportunity of their weak position on that day . Later ‘Dawn’ published that hard talk . rest story at

http://gupshup.org/gs/pakistan-and-world-affairs/665085-war-vs-dawn.html

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Kash koi hamaray is Tankhwahdar mulazim say poochhay keh tumhain is par comment karnay ka ikhtiar kis nay dia ?

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Nafisa Shah@shahnafisa](https://twitter.com/ShahNafisa) 3h3 hours agoMore

pm](https://twitter.com/hashtag/PM?src=hash) scapegoating his team members in #dawnleaks](https://twitter.com/hashtag/dawnleaks?src=hash) is downright ridiculous,but I am of the view that #DGISPR](https://twitter.com/hashtag/DGISPR?src=hash)'s tweet is not proper nor in order

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Thats actually right. Under the system currently enforced there is no way DG ISPR can reject a notification coming from elected govt. That too thought a twitter account

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Apparently your PPP leadership doesnt agree with you

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Dawn leaks:
The news leaked to and journalist by the civilian, whilst the journalist was not “registered” nor the civilain niether the news was in favor of armed generals, however, news of giving shut-up call to PM by the COAS in One-on-One meeting is leaked by the ISPR to the “registered” journalist also known as a Hawaldar-Sahafi/media is not only totally acceptable rather appreciated" .

Is Dawn-Leaks…

The issue is about Ego, otherwise, Americans raped the the country by entering unannounced and uninvited just in the middle of night and going back safely is perfectly alright and commission report on it is not of any importance.

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he is only opposing PM but truth was spoken by PPP MNA Nafisa Shah , which reflects real PPP mind .
Later Ch Nisar dared to speak against Twitter Army
‘ٹوئیٹ سے معاملات کو ہینڈل کرنا جمہوریت کےلئے زہرقاتل ہے’]('ٹوئیٹ سے معاملات کو ہینڈل کرنا جمہوریت کےلئے زہرقاتل ہے' - Videos - Dawn News Urdu)
ڈان کی خبر کے معاملے پر ابھی باضابطہ نوٹیفکیشن جاری نہیں ہوا، وزیر داخلہ چوہدری نثار

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This issue shd have been discussed more seriously over here at PA forum. in 140 words, an army employee made Pakistan a joke globally. so much embarrassment, so much shame for Pakistan once again. I read the tweet and could not believe it.

No matter what the situation was, it shd have been dealt internally and an army employee shd not have insulted an elected PM and that too in such a rude and arrogant way publically. everyone is now questioning Pak’s democracy and making fun of it.

when will our army understand that times have changed and that they shd not run the country.

anyway, Responsibility must be fixed about ISPR tweet. Such a display of arrogance and insult must be accounted for.

If an info minister, PM adviser and PIO can be removed on a report, why can’t DG ISPR be called into question on a provocative tweet? or other wise please change Article 243(1) of the Constitution of PK which reads : “The Federal Government shall have control and command of the Armed Forces”.

can Govt take action against DG-ISPR? A junior officer is stronger than PM?

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dont defend PPP…show some courage. show some self respect. PPP has shown how baighariat and spinless their leadership is. lakh dee lanat khurseeed shah par. doo kar mar jao

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He is en cashing the moment, keeping in view the elections of 2018. This ugly situation never happened if in house change would have taken place soon after the SC judgement.

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It is not DG-ISPR, it is his hand picked CAOS, Bajwa. However for sake of democracy NS proved to the most stupid corrupt PM in the history of Pakistan, should have resigned the moment judgement came out in public. Before resignation, he should have fired his retard advisers performing ‘bhangrha’ and distributing sweets on the disgraceful judgement.

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But thats where you miss the real leadership. I mean instead of being opportunist, just take a solid principle stand and say its not acceptable since under the system army comes under elected govt and not other way around

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That is 100 % correct. But who will do this. Do u think if positions are reciprocated NS will not en-cash it.

For the army , no comments… Even if they have complaints about the notifications , they shud have discussed in meetings.. Seems the effect of Asim bajwa aka tweet baba is not gone…

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It is NS to blame now. He should not have given such opportunity to Zardari. Had he resigned honorably, perhaps PML(N) would have been again winners. You have to understand that you take ‘panga’ with holy cows only if you are clean. You know he is not clean and ‘holy cows’ revenged with ‘panama money laundering leaks’ which is a bomb shell for him and his party.

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come on Sach. You are better than that sir. there are issues on which you take a principled stand no matter what with no ifs and buts.

See this is the problem. we will never take any stand based on principles. we will always deform our viewpoints to accommodate our baigharat leadership. One of the reasons army in Pak always dares to cross its boundary line is because it knows that 2-cent politicians who happen to be in opposition these days will support army’s any unconstitutional step to unseat the sitting govt and on top of that masses will simply fall in line as they always worship their baigharat leaders.

Imagine similar rude and arrogant army tweet has been made to Bainazir bhutto today in exactly similar circumstances. You think Sach would have blamed Bainazir for that? 200% No. he would have blasted army to no end. but today, he is trying to accommodate PPP’s baighart and sharamnak behavior.

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imagine, an Indian army employee making such tweet to Indian PM. the whole Indian opposition would have supported Indian PM unanimously with no reservations whatsoever. the whole civil society would have protested. that is why Indian army stays in its limits. it knows that it will find no support at any level.

but here in pak, PPP which is the oldest democratic party in the country was the first one to support army tweet and that too 100% with no reservation whatsoever. doob kar mar jao khursheed shah, zardari and Bilawal. i dont know PTI’s offical reaction on this army tweet, so cant commnet.

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Had BB behaved like NS to army officials in a meeting on Oct 2016, BB would have again kicked out from the office. She was earlier kicked out because she told army that NA would approve sending the troops to Iraq’s first war in 1992. Jatai took over and in the same moment he issued orders to army to move to Iraq. Had NS resigned after the judgement, he would have been more respected than he is in the disgrace power struggle with ‘holy cows.’. He should not have then sacked his information minister and other people revealing the ugly face of ‘holy cows’. He is absolutely at fault and you should accept that.

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This was all in reaction of http://gupshup.org/gs/pakistan-and-world-affairs/665010-india-attacks-loc-via-surgical-strikes.html?highlight=Indian+surgical+strikes + http://gupshup.org/gs/pakistan-and-world-affairs/665556-surgical-strikes.html?highlight=Indian+surgical+strikes
We are just nothing
Forget this all , tell us about OBL report
only leaks about OBL was http://gupshup.org/gs/pakistan-and-world-affairs/655682-obl-prisoner-pakistan-army-seymour-hersh.html?highlight=osama+laden+prisoner