Membership of any group nor hatred of jews were not what she was charged with...these two things have nothing to with and are totally irrelevant to her kidnapping and subsequent torture, attempted murder and imprisonment...
Anybody who is so readily willing to believe that the CIA agent involved in this latest botched operation was a poor diplomat being robbed and deserving of diplomatic immunity would have no problem believing a 5 foot skinny woman would overpower two juiced up american marines and attempt kill them..
She didnt kill bcs she was so weak. She managed to grab a gun which she apparently misfired.
^^ What was he doing mingling with Jahil COm and why the hell he was in such a barbaric country... care to explain.. if that terrified why he came out of consulate to begin with??? you can abuse as much as you want... the news channels you are referring to are/were quoting the statements of Police ( just for your info as the Jahil com already knew it) btw are you also from the same Jahil COM or you are just trying your best to be not called jahil by calling every one else
So you mean to tell me there is no such thing as armed robbers on motorbikes who rob people in Pakistan?
Are you joking?
He was armed because Pakistan is a very dangerous country. And this incident proved why he needed a gun.
^^ What was he doing mingling with Jahil COm and why the hell he was in such a barbaric country... care to explain.. if that terrified why he came out of consulate to begin with??? you can abuse as much as you want... the news channels you are referring to are/were quoting the statements of Police ( just for your info as the Jahil com already knew it) btw are you also from the same Jahil COM or you are just trying your best to be not called jahil by calling every one else
How should I react to someone calling me a confused person even though im the one quoting news sources. Then they go on to claim its mass cover up, while another oone is accusing me of being an ahmadi, which in pakistan is tantamount to a ma behn gali apparently! U dont think this is jahalurh?
And im a pakistani,i have every right to critisize. The country is being overrun with jahaluth.
This guy came to pakistan to do his job. If security is a problem, its pakistans fault not his.
You ever try to grab a gun from a US marine? You will be dead before you get your hand on the trigger.
Afia was Super Lady, she not only grabbed it from the US marine but managed to open fire at few of them ( if i recall it right) and then i required half a dozen marines to contain her... she must be something special or US marines are just crap...
Afia was Super Lady, she not only grabbed it from the US marine but managed to open fire at few of them ( if i recall it right) and then i required half a dozen marines to contain her... she must be something special or US marines are just crap...
It actually only took one to shoot her. She wasnt a threat at all.
How should I react to someone calling me a confused person even though im the one quoting news sources. Then they go on to claim its mass cover up, while another oone is accusing me of being an ahmadi, which in pakistan is tantamount to a ma behn gali apparently! U dont think this is jahalurh?
And im a pakistani,i have every right to critisize. The country is being overrun with jahaluth.
This guy came to pakistan to do his job. If security is a problem, its pakistans fault not his.
I didn't call you anything... if you call people of certain nation jahil to which i belong, over something which is not clear to anything then what should the people call you....??? you better select your word carefully if you do not like to get them back at you...
Criticize as much as u want, that your right, no body is taking it away from you, but do it for the right reasons as criticism for the sake of criticism is not healthy secondly and most importantly you are basing your arguments as if you are witness of scene and have 1st hand info and rightly knows exactly what happened...
It actually only took one to shoot her. She wasnt a threat at all.
But stupid for sure, she want to American base ( or near marines) with intention to attack them and that is alone ( with no back up and no companions and with no JACKET) and then dares to snatch a rifle.. what a lady she is
I didn't call you anything... if you call people of certain nation jahil to which i belong, over something which is not clear to anything then what should the people call you....??? you better select your word carefully if you do not like to get them back at you...
Criticize as much as u want, that your right, no body is taking it away from you, but do it for the right reasons as criticism for the sake of criticism is not healthy secondly and most importantly you are basing your arguments as if you are witness of scene and have 1st hand info and rightly knows exactly what happened...
Lol... There jahaluth and obsurdity everywhere in pak. If you dont like calling it what.it is, then I cant help you.I dont know what your confused about. Things like this happen everyday on pakistans streets. This was an obvious botched robbery.
Lol... There jahaluth and obsurdity everywhere in pak. If you dont like calling it what.it is, then I cant help you.I dont know what your confused about. Things like this happen everyday on pakistans streets. This was an obvious botched robbery.
So this give the guy the right to shoot at anyone ????
But stupid for sure, she want to American base ( or near marines) with intention to attack them and that is alone ( with no back up and no companions and with no JACKET) and then dares to snatch a rifle.. what a lady she is
Oh bhai. Control urself. I,dont know what ur saying. All I know is somehow this woman ended up in afghanistan, where she is accused of trying to fire a weapon at a marine, but failed. This doesnt take a super woman, just desperate weak woman with bad aim.
^^ I am not taking it away, i just said few things which were denying his side of story, let him back things to support his story in the court, after all in the court room the families of the deceased ones will be there and they do whatever they can to prove that their sons were not criminal as stated by this guy... simple...
Oh bhai. Control urself. I,dont know what ur saying. All I know is somehow this woman ended up in afghanistan, where she is accused of trying to fire a weapon at a marine, but failed. This doesnt take a super woman, just desperate weak woman with bad aim.
I find it hard to control my laughter when people try to accuse her on the ground you have stated, now in one post you said people are calling names i.e. getting personal, aren't you doing the same, or is that if you get personal then it is okay but if someone else does it then he is Jahil...
ya she was desperate, may be she was influenced by Sultan Rahi's movies and thought that she can approach any marine borrow the gun and try to shoot them out...
And there is a good reason why not. Your gonna get your arse shot like she did.
She was never shot. Med911 you live in a land of delusions. Grabbing any weapon is difficult as hell. Its heavy and cumbersome and more important for a trained US solider, his gun is his life. No US Marine will loose his weapon so easily to a small thin Pakistani woman.
And at least - change the title of this thread - foreigner is such a generic term and his identity is not unknown ...
And I would say apart from CM and some good posts from hanibal , rest is shyte .. Majority of fellas fighting in favor of Davis , got no clue about the code of conduct for diplomats ..
“When detained, the US diplomat repeatedly requested immunity under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.” — AP Photo
ISLAMABAD: The United States on Saturday called for the immediate release of a US diplomat it said was unlawfully detained by Pakistani authorities in Lahore, its embassy in Islamabad said.
The man, previously described just as a consulate employee, is being held in police custody over Thursday’s shooting that resulted in the deaths of two men he said he killed in self-defence.
“When detained, the US diplomat identified himself to police as a diplomat and repeatedly requested immunity under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations,” the embassy said in a statement.
It added, “Local police and senior authorities failed to observe their legal obligation to verify his status with either the US consulate general in Lahore or the US embassy in Islamabad”.
“Furthermore, the diplomat was formally arrested and remanded into custody, which is a violation of international norms and the Vienna Convention, to which Pakistan is a signatory.”
The man, named as Raymond Davis and described by the US State Department as an American civilian working for the US consulate in Lahore, was held at a police station on double murder charges over the deaths of two motorcyclists.
A third Pakistani was crushed to death by a consulate car that went to help Davis following the shooting in a busy street in the eastern city on Thursday.
“The diplomat, assigned to the US embassy in Islamabad, has a US diplomatic passport and Pakistani visa valid until June 2012,” the statement said.
Recalling the events that led to Davis’s arrest, it said the diplomat acted in self-defence when confronted by two armed men on motorcycles.
“The diplomat had every reason to believe that the armed men meant him bodily harm. Minutes earlier, the two men, who had criminal backgrounds, had robbed money and valuables at gunpoint from a Pakistani citizen in the same area.”
The embassy expressed regret that “this incident resulted in loss of life” and said it was “committed to working closely with the Pakistani government to secure the immediate release of the diplomat, as required under Pakistani and international law”.
Meanwhile, the US consulate on Saturday denied immediate access to the car and its driver who overran and killed Pakistani citizen Abdul Rehman on Qartaba chowk during the shooting incident.
According to sources, Lahore Police tried to access the driver and other people who were sitting in the car at the time of the incident by writing a letter to the US Consulate. However, the consulate denied the authorities immediate access.
A day earlier, provincial law minister Rana Sanaullah told the media that access would be given to the car and the people who were seated in it by Friday evening.
Moreover, Barrister Javed Iqbal requested Chief Justice Lahore High Court Ejaz Chaudhry in a letter to stop the US official from leaving the country.
A court on Friday handed over Davis to the police on a six day physical remand.
The incident sparked several small protests across the country on Friday, a sign of the anti-American sentiment that is already running high partly because of a covert US drone campaign in the northwest tribal areas that has provoked deadly revenge attacks by militants.