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Finally...he might be exchanged for Dr Aafia Siddiqui...just my guess... :)
Case is totally different, Afia Siddiqui was an extremist & Al-Qaeda member. She deserves what she get.
If anybody still questions the case merits, whatever the bakwass she did in the court is enough to proof what is her mental capacity and how much hatred she has for Jews.
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^ Great Idea... lets hope it happens.
I would rather that happened than the guy was torn to shreds or got off with a grin.
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Case is totally different, Afia Siddiqui was an extremist & Al-Qaeda member. She deserves what she get.
If anybody still questions the case merits, whatever the bakwass she did in the court is enough to proof what is her mental capacity and how much hatred she has for Jews.
Membership of any group nor hatred of jews were not what she was charged with...these two things have nothing to with and are totally irrelevant to her kidnapping and subsequent torture, attempted murder and imprisonment...
Anybody who is so readily willing to believe that the CIA agent involved in this latest botched operation was a poor diplomat being robbed and deserving of diplomatic immunity would have no problem believing a 5 foot skinny woman would overpower two juiced up american marines and attempt kill them..
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Membership of any group nor hatred of jews were not what she was charged with...these two things have nothing to with and are totally irrelevant to her kidnapping and subsequent torture, attempted murder and imprisonment...
Anybody who is so readily willing to believe that the CIA agent involved in this latest botched operation was a poor diplomat being robbed and deserving of diplomatic immunity would have no problem believing a 5 foot skinny woman would overpower two juiced up american marines and attempt kill them..
I didn't said she was charged with hatred for Jews, i was just clarifying how much hatred she have for them. The judge was Jew by the way.
I just can't never able to understand why infidels were after Afia, was she came from Mars or have some special status or probably she have some major breakthrough in medical science. You know one more conspiracy recorded in our history.
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Well, either way one thing is for certain. Even if those two weren't Dacoit, the guy felt threatened. Can we really blame him for defending himself when feeling threatened, especially in today's Pakistan?
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Well hang on a minute two of the victims had no weapons how the hell did this guy feel threatened?
Furthermore all the evidence points to a botched CIA operation...
The chap wasn't even a diplomat nor was he listed on diplomatic staff and he chose to walk around with a gun to hand... most guys that pack a gun dont feel threatened mate.
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Well hang on a minute two of the victims had no weapons how the hell did this guy feel threatened?
Furthermore all the evidence points to a botched CIA operation...
The chap wasn't even a diplomat nor was he listed on diplomatic staff and he chose to walk around with a gun to hand... most guys that pack a gun dont feel threatened mate.
Also read that atleast one of the guys is a known Dacoit.
And you dont need a gun to threaten someone, its the perception of the threat. Perhaps the Consulate guy misperceived and panicked?
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A known Dacoit who was on his way to court... and was carrying a Licenced and concealed firearm.
However the first to be shot was a fellow who carried no firearm, the next victim was the armed guy who got no shot off and final victim was the incocent bystander.
Med911 Bhia I agree the consulate guy or anyone else for that matter would be afraid of a threat even I would be afraid if I was walking the streets almost alone in the midst of criminals...
But few men are afraid when they have a loaded Barreta and that too cocked and saftey off ready to shoot.... this was murder in cold blood dude, you cannot argue it now.
Post mortem confirms two of the victims were shot in the back.... now tell me Brother if this was any other country the guy would be getting grilled for this but cos it's Pakistan and the killer is a US fellow it's all hush hush...
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MQM kills many in Karachi daily.
Waderas and Sardars kills many In Sindh, Baluchistan and south Punjab daily.
Police kills often in fake encounters.
Many killed daily in KP in war of terrorism.
Land Mafia kills people almost daily everywhere in Pakistan.
Daily almost more than hundred killed on our roads in avoidable accidents.
We are made for this purpose.
What happened if American killed three of us.
After all we get aid from them.
Others kill us without giving any aid.
See an example;Bahria Town car race: ‘Catch the real culprits’ says SC](Redirect Notice)
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Ex-IGP protected car race accused, SC told
Result
Heirs declare Bahria Town officials innocent
**Experts reject murder case on car race accident accused
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Also read that atleast one of the guys is a known Dacoit.
And you dont need a gun to threaten someone, its the perception of the threat. Perhaps the Consulate guy misperceived and panicked?
Please no talking points from rabwah...some other CIA operatives happened to have filed a court case against the deceased a whole day or two later on the behest of their paymasters at Langley in order to tarnish the victims so that their operative's cover story can hold water...
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A known Dacoit who was on his way to court... and was carrying a Licenced and concealed firearm.
However the first to be shot was a fellow who carried no firearm, the next victim was the armed guy who got no shot off and final victim was the incocent bystander.
Med911 Bhia I agree the consulate guy or anyone else for that matter would be afraid of a threat even I would be afraid if I was walking the streets almost alone in the midst of criminals...
But few men are afraid when they have a loaded Barreta and that too cocked and saftey off ready to shoot.... this was murder in cold blood dude, you cannot argue it now.
Post mortem confirms two of the victims were shot in the back.... now tell me Brother if this was any other country the guy would be getting grilled for this but cos it's Pakistan and the killer is a US fellow it's all hush hush...
Im just saying. Lets wait for the details. Far worse crimes then this have been commited in Pak without anyone ever being punished.
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CIA police claimed to have traced criminal record of one of the two youths killed by Davis. SP Umar Virk said that two cellphones recovered from Faizan Haider’s pocket had been snatched in a street crime.
An armed robbery case registered against him with Faisal Town police and another with Gulshan-i-Ravi police had also been traced, he said, adding in the police record Faizan was also known as Umer alias Sanni.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/29/us-official-expected-to-appear-in-court-over-lahore-shooting.html
So of all the people in Pakistan to be killed by a Consulate member, this one just HAPPENED to be a known criminal?!?!?
And why do we assume that the guy on the bike with him was innocent? We know for a fact that this is how these people work.
Faris saab, if this kid was a reformed criminal, what was a he doing with TWO stolen Mobiles in his pocket?!?!
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And who said the two were unarmed?
Mr Tareen said a Glock pistol had been recovered from Mr Davis and that** pistols had also been found on the two men shot dead. **
Mr Davis is said to have told police that the motorcycle rider and his pillion passenger had been trying to hijack his vehicle at gunpoint.
Police said he told officers that he had withdrawn money from a cash machine shortly before the incident.
US official Raymond Davis on Lahore murder charges - BBC News
From what I can tell, these were just two criminals who decided to rob the wrong guy.
It all seems to suspicious. If this Consulate person was really bent on killing Pakistanis, he could have done it a long time ago. But the one person he does manage to kill, just happens to be a person with two existing cases registered against him, and just happned to be carrying a pistol! Gimme a break.
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And people wonder why Pakistan is in such a mess, when its ABCD counter parts happily defending the killing of Pakistanis.
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^^ Discovering pistols / weapons from dead ones or anyone from that matter is not big deal for Punjab Police or any police!!!
Because the killer is American many are giving him benefit of the doubt, where three things are obvious and telling us that things are totally different then what it has been shown by the Americans and their Pakistan counterparts
1) Why he was carrying a fire arm? if it is ok for him to carry arms then by the same logic, the two also have right to carry the same...
2) Both were shot in back, i have rarely seen that the muggers turning their backs to the one who they are about to mug or mugged... the guy just felt threaten and opened fire on them the moment they passed and then took their photo by his cell, a threaten person, a scared person would not think of taking any photo at times like that, we must be use to killing people and for him these two were just like many others he have killed for some reason
3) The one guy who have cases registered against him, there is different story to that, the cases where registered by two different people after 36 hours, stating that they were robbed by the same guy at around 1 pm same day, whereas the incident where the American had killed these two was at around 2 pm...
3.a) were these two guys who were mugged by him were sleeping for 36 hours, they never reported anything nor was there any call made to emergency center, nor there was any attempt to block the cell phone ( snatched)...
3.b) after mugging two different people in 5 KM radius, the guys were still wandering for an hour.. looking for another victim??? one hour is way to much if you have snatched RS 20,000 from one party and cell phone from other guy..
all things just don't sum up as stated by the white guy and Punjab Police...
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^^ Discovering pistols / weapons from dead ones or anyone from that matter is not big deal for Punjab Police or any police!!!
Because the killer is American many are giving him benefit of the doubt, where three things are obvious and telling us that things are totally different then what it has been shown by the Americans and their Pakistan counterparts
1) Why he was carrying a fire arm? if it is ok for him to carry arms then by the same logic, the two also have right to carry the same...
2) Both were shot in back, i have rarely seen that the muggers turning their backs to the one who they are about to mug or mugged... the guy just felt threaten and opened fire on them the moment they passed and then took their photo by his cell, a threaten person, a scared person would not think of taking any photo at times like that, we must be use to killing people and for him these two were just like many others he have killed for some reason
3) The one guy who have cases registered against him, there is different story to that, the cases where registered by two different people after 36 hours, stating that they were robbed by the same guy at around 1 pm same day, whereas the incident where the American had killed these two was at around 2 pm... 3.a) were these two guys who were mugged by him were sleeping for 36 hours, they never reported anything nor was there any call made to emergency center, nor there was any attempt to block the cell phone ( snatched)...
3.b) after mugging two different people in 5 KM radius, the guys were still wandering for an hour.. looking for another victim??? one hour is way to much if you have snatched RS 20,000 from one party and cell phone from other guy..
all things just don't sum up as stated by the white guy and Punjab Police...
The shortcomings and discrepencies can be attributed to Rahman Malik's drama skills.
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Jahil com. The pak news outlets are the ones reporting that these two idiots on the bike were known criminals. But for some reason your conspiracy obsessed minds cant come to admit reality. Show facts that state thse two were innocent and I will apologize. Ffor now it appears they were guilty.
I suppose his only real crime was carrying a gun. But can you blame considering what a barbaric country pak is becoming? If the governor of punjab can be gunned down by his own guard in broad day light, what chance does this gora have? Bfr u condemn this guy, think about tje kind of society pakistan has become first.
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^^ What was he doing mingling with Jahil COm and why the hell he was in such a barbaric country... care to explain.. if that terrified why he came out of consulate to begin with??? you can abuse as much as you want... the news channels you are referring to are/were quoting the statements of Police ( just for your info as the Jahil com already knew it) btw are you also from the same Jahil COM or you are just trying your best to be not called jahil by calling every one else