Im not one of those sad people whose life revolves around maligning India but yeah since India was dragged into the discussion with you claiming India does not have problems I just gave you a little reality check.
Pakistan does not have the sort of poverty that India has.
Your fooled and blinded by positive media reports. there is A HUGE difference between India and Pakistan - India gets a lot of good publicity. It is a country which has more or less rejected its culture and has accepted westernisation - one of the biggest issues in pakistan is that there are people who do not wantto see the country westernised and they are atively involved in resiting westernisation. Although the masses in pakistan have more or less accepted the slow westernisation process.
Joke, I have been to India myself. They are getting publicity because they are doing good, while we are becoming a joke. Westernization has absolutely zilch to do with it. They are less westernized than us, and take more pride in their culture.
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The biggest problem with people like you is that your life revolves around what other people judge you as - if most people judge pakistan as a failed state why not go out there and do something to stop the rot. If you dont get out there and do something yourself for your country no one else will.
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And the biggest problem with you is that you will continue to be denying what a joke you have become and continue to defend these jokes, no pun intended as per your nick. On top of that, you are not willing to admit the mistakes we made. Urdu was a foreign/alien language, and a nation who imposes a foreign/alien language to all of its provinces (none of them which speaks Urdu) is bound to end up with trouble.
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By the way according to john maccain pakistan is no longer a failed state but was in 1999 i hope that makes you feel a lot better.
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No he doesn't. I am following his campaign pretty closely, and at numerous times he and his party have said that Pakistan is not just a failed stated but a threat to other states now. Honestly, with whats happened in the last 5 y ears or so, everything blowing up, he is bound to make such statements, despite being the more Pakistan friendly of the two contestants.
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East Pakistan deserved its own language agreed - both urdu and bengali should have been equally important in this land where most speak bangaldesh.
BUT still bangladesh was ina DIFFERENT position to the provicnces in pakistan today - the provinces and ethnic groups within pakistan NEED NEED NEED Urdu to communicate across cultures.
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No its not. If you admit they deserve Bengali, then Punjab deserves Punjabi, and Sindh deserves Sindhi and so on. Elaborate on this 'different position' if you have to. You can have Urdu for inter-provincial communication all you want, but to make it the supreme language, thats absurd, and we already know how succesfull its been. Urdu is a great language, dont get me wrong, but you cant expect people to start loving it the way they love their own langauges. Big mistake.
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If there is no urdu it will be punjabi or english which would take over.
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I dont think Urdu enjoys such a 'reputable' stature in the first place. Educated people send their kids to English medium schools because they look down on Urdu. The love the migrants had for Urdu dissapeared pretty soon too. There are hardly any international publications on anything including science and tech in Urdu.
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The thinng is a language woul dhave to be imposed anyway. Educated south indians who have not learn Hindi HAVE to speak ENGLISH with their northern indian brethren. They still have to revert to an even more foreign language to communucate across the country? thats quite shameful to be honest although i can understand why south indias probably feel that hindi is nt a language they should have tolearn BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO LEARN ENGLISH.
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lol where did you come up with all that? There are plenty of learned South Indians who do not communicate in English, or Hindi. And if they live and work in South India, they dont have to ALL learn hindi or Urdu. You have to realize that everyone in South India does not work at a call center.
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You talk about provinces - why should provincial languages be imposed?
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You dont need to impose provincial langauges, because they already speak those languages. We imposed Urdu upon them, and thats one of the reasons why there is so much disharmony.
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You obviously read a lot of provincilaists - their argument does not necessarily have to be correct or the right way forward. Most provincialists give two hoots about the minority languages that exist along their own language within their provinces.
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Wow, you were talking about me judging people, now look whose talking. I dont give a crap about provincialists, and everyone knows what I think about ethnic hate mongers such as MQM, even though they would never bring this issue up because their votebank speaks this language. You just dont go around saying people who want to speak the langauge of their ancestors hate Pakistan. Thats absurd, and the next thing you know, they will show us a middle finger and be like, fine we hate Pakistan and dont want to be part of it. This is what happened with Bangladesh too.
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IF Pakistan imposed provincial languages on people it would cause for more of a negative reaction than Urdu.
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Nope, it would be certainly better than imposing a language upon them, that no one except a few wealthy migrants spoke. There wont be a reaction from Punjab if you ask them to speak Punjabi, or Sindh if you ask them to speak Sindhi, because thats what they do!
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People would go ape.
Are you saying in Punjab people would be forced to learn Seraiki, potohari, punjabi?
In NWFP pashtu and pakhtu both dialects, kho, hindko, seraiki
In Balochistan - brohi, baluchi, pashtu ?
In Sindh -Sindhi, urdu, kacchi, gujarati?
Are you actually saying that al these languges willbe imposed upon people??
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They should have a choice and ample work should be done to preserve these languages. Most of them would go for the 4 main languages that they speak in the first place. The only thing they are forced to learn right now is 'Urdu'.