To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife

[Nisha25]

Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife

"Women need men more than men need women, for so many reasons"

i would think there's an equal need for each other. men need women just as much, men can't go long without companionship just like women, sooner or later they soften up even if it takes years. and Allah has no gender, there's no maleness associated with God

[diwana]

Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife

well if the forums are representative of actual pakistanis, i'd say times have changed, diwana. your womenfolk seem better poised to live in the modern world than your men, and might actually have more choices than you realize just yet..

Sorry to say dear. 'Time' has not changed over so many centuries in** this** regard.

If one looks in to just having choices.....forget about what place, religion or culture......Men do have more choices.

Not saying as a proud insensitive man but even as an independant gender identity role if one looks at how these relations work, women have to settle more than men...around the world.

"Women need men more than men need women, for so many reasons"

i would think there's an equal need for each other. men need women just as much, men can't go long without companionship just like women, sooner or later they soften up even if it takes years. and Allah has no gender, there's no maleness associated with God

Just to clarify, I did not say men do not need women. Nor I said Allah is male. ( refer to that thread please)

I said, women need men more than men need women as companion.

[mizsani]

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@EDAL

Case closed.

@CherryBlossom

i didn't get it... you are virgin but not "pure" virgin when you know about the anatomy of wo/men and feel attracted to the opposite sex?! hmm.. ok.. nvm.

Trust me, you are wrong! There are plenty of guys on GS who have no problem with their wives being in relationship(s) prior to them (physical or non-physical), thats why you called beingmodern`.

I totally agree with the highlighted part.

Sorry to say dear. 'Time' has not changed over so many centuries in** this** regard.

If one looks in to just having choices.....forget about what place, religion or culture......Men do have more choices.

Not saying as a proud insensitive man but even as an independant gender identity role if one looks at how these relations work, women have to settle more than men...around the world.

i think... if ur a pretty girl/woman... u have lots of choices too.

[diwana]

Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife

i think... if ur a pretty girl/woman... u have lots of choices too.

But if you are an average looking man then?

Forget about handsom or rich man.

[mizsani]

Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife

mujhe kiya maloom... :(

But if you are an average looking man then?

Forget about handsom or rich man.

[Reha]

Re: To all the men who want a “pure” virgin wife

@redvelvet

:k:

Agree. You think he thinks of himself as trash as well? Or does he think that since he did tauba after sleeping around that he’s no longer trash?

His tauba renders him clean…but the woman would still be garbage.

Or maybe he thinks his gender exempts him from that label.

All of the above. He thinks HIS tawba renders him a clean object and the woman - regardless of how much she tawba she does…she is still a dirty object. In his mind, his gender makes him superior and apparently more forgivable, clean, pure, etc. The fact that he married a virgin is great but to a certain extent…his wife is also an object in his eyes…not a woman or human being…just a clean thing he happened to find.

Its a psychological problem.

@diwana

While EDAL said something funny and albiet controversial.

We have to give him an applause for speaking his mind, being bold and saying many many facts. (Hope he does not get banned or whatever)

You agree with his flawed mentality? Diwana, why dont you try to impress me with you wit and intelligence at least some of the times? Come on!

OK:

Women/Girls:

Let me break it down.

Men have choices. Got it?

They do and can go for it.

In this whole wide world after centuries of centuries women never have been able to get to that point.

Why?

Women need men more than men need women, for so many reasons..even if you take away the sex from equation. ( Refer to my thread where I discussed about Even God being ‘male figure’- not ‘male’ per se)

While I do respect all women for being women, they need to realize the fact that having less of choices, their rantig on men having been around (not endorsing the act of being around), will NEVER help them in long run and when they find men who have been around but ready to be with them only,

…they better accept!

P.S. Do not even try to write exactly opposite statements. Won’t work.

I dont think anyone needs to try to write the opposite. What world are you living in?

Women are educated, working, buying property, driving their own cars, paying their own bills, even replacing men like you with sperm banks, etc etc etc. Men are in more need of sex than woman so there goes that too.

Why would a woman keep a man that is a waste of breathing space if she doesnt have to? You dont get it, do you?

The power that men think they have is usually given to them by a woman. Women boost your egos to fool you into thinking you’re the man. Thats how she gets you to do what she wants. Do you really think a woman is a weak, bebass and majboor little thing? She can give birth to you, she can take you off this planet too.

You know how easy it is for a woman to get a man? She could be ugly, she will still have an army of men that will want her. You think a man will have the same luck? No, the poor thing has to work for it. Society gives you all the right in the world to screw around and do what you want…even though its wrong in Islam. But lets say a woman chose to do that. Do you think you could stop her? Catch her in her lie? Who will stop her? Question her today if she decides she wants to have the same fun as you men. Who? No one. She can hide it just the same way you men do and “get away with it”. On the day of judgement, her punishment is the same dear.

So no…you dont have any more choices…its all in your head…or as I like to call it…dimagh ka khalal.

Times have changed, women have changed…but our men are still sitting in the caves. Ooga Ooga.

Bara-e-meherbani…apna ego ek taraf rakh ke dimagh ka istimaal karein zara.

@queer

well if the forums are representative of actual pakistanis, i’d say times have changed, diwana. your womenfolk seem better poised to live in the modern world than your men, and might actually have more choices than you realize just yet..

:k:

[Reha]

Re: To all the men who want a “pure” virgin wife

Even in the matrimonial searches…women have much more going for them than men do now. More women have higher degrees than men…more women are accepted in law schools now…

Pretty soon, its going to be the girls bringing rishtay and men bringing jahez with them because whatever they are…isnt enough.

Im not a man-hater. But I do despise this useless debate about women being less than men or being potentially dirty because they have a past. Its a jaahil and ganvaar mentality.

[Iconoclast]

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@amzsonikuri

This isn;t directed to the good muslim men who didnt engage in sex before marriage out the the fear of allah and sure they deserve a likewise woman

but this thread is more directed to the party animals out there who have done everything under the sun and now want a virgin wife just for the sake of their insecurity.

Your wife might be techinally a virgin (hymen in tact and all) but you cant deny that she never had desires before meeting you, been curious about the male anatomy maybe even had fantasies about sex! Afterall she is a woman and a human being. So i guess no one is purely innocent and you must get all this crap out of your heads

thanks

Having desires or thoughts is not a crime.

As long as someone hasnt indulged in premarital sex, he/she IS innocent.

[NomiCA]

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@Reha

Im not a man-hater. But I do despise this useless debate about women being less than men or being potentially dirty because they have a past. Its a jaahil and ganvaar mentality.

I despise it too…but i don’t get one thing..whenever some troll like EDAL/amzsonikuri mentions something…all you guys just get worked up and keep indulging this ‘debate’ again…n again…n again…

@Reha

The power that men think they have is usually given to them by a woman. Women boost your egos to fool you into thinking you’re the man. Thats how she gets you to do what she wants. Do you really think a woman is a weak, bebass and majboor little thing? She can give birth to you, she can take you off this planet too. You know how easy it is for a woman to get a man? She could be ugly, she will still have an army of men that will want her. You think a man will have the same luck? No, the poor thing has to work for it. Society gives you all the right in the world to screw around and do what you want…even though its wrong in Islam. But lets say a woman chose to do that. Do you think you could stop her? Catch her in her lie? Who will stop her? Question her today if she decides she wants to have the same fun as you men. Who? No one. She can hide it just the same way you men do and “get away with it”. On the day of judgement, her punishment is the same dear.

that is like sounds like against women…

sperm bank!!!

[mizsani]

Re: To all the men who want a “pure” virgin wife

rehaaa… ur sooo smart..
i wish every1 could think like u

@Reha

All of the above. He thinks HIS tawba renders him a clean object and the woman - regardless of how much she tawba she does…she is still a dirty object. In his mind, his gender makes him superior and apparently more forgivable, clean, pure, etc. The fact that he married a virgin is great but to a certain extent…his wife is also an object in his eyes…not a woman or human being…just a clean thing he happened to find.

Its a psychological problem.

I dont think anyone needs to try to write the opposite. What world are you living in?

Women are educated, working, buying property, driving their own cars, paying their own bills, even replacing men like you with sperm banks, etc etc etc. Men are in more need of sex than woman so there goes that too.

Why would a woman keep a man that is a waste of breathing space if she doesnt have to? You dont get it, do you?

The power that men think they have is usually given to them by a woman. Women boost your egos to fool you into thinking you’re the man. Thats how she gets you to do what she wants. Do you really think a woman is a weak, bebass and majboor little thing? She can give birth to you, she can take you off this planet too.

You know how easy it is for a woman to get a man? She could be ugly, she will still have an army of men that will want her. You think a man will have the same luck? No, the poor thing has to work for it. Society gives you all the right in the world to screw around and do what you want…even though its wrong in Islam. But lets say a woman chose to do that. Do you think you could stop her? Catch her in her lie? Who will stop her? Question her today if she decides she wants to have the same fun as you men. Who? No one. She can hide it just the same way you men do and “get away with it”. On the day of judgement, her punishment is the same dear.

So no…you dont have any more choices…its all in your head…or as I like to call it…dimagh ka khalal.

Times have changed, women have changed…but our men are still sitting in the caves. Ooga Ooga.

Bara-e-meherbani…apna ego ek taraf rakh ke dimagh ka istimaal karein zara.

:k:

[Maham]

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@Reha

EDAL…has anyone ever called you a paindu? Because thats the only word that comes to my mind when I read your jahilana posts.

In the Qur’an…your punishment for sleeping around is the same as that of a woman. So no, its not different. Its exactly the same. And even though you have asked for forgiveness and landed yourself a nice, clean vessel through which you can procreate…it doesnt mean you are forgiven. To ask for forgiveness is to mend your ways, change your thought process and realize what you did was wrong. Not justify it by blaming it on your gender or “boys will be boys”. That wont fly when you’re standing in front of Allah swt on the Day of Judgement. Lets screw every woman on the planet, say sorry and marry a virgin. YAY! We’re home free now guys!

You may have asked for forgiveness…but you didnt change your ways or your mentality. You still think of women as objects…clean objects…dirty objects…just objects. And since Allah swt knows everything within your heart…do you think you’ve gotten away with it? Do you think you’re home free and now no one can touch you? Sorry buddy, you have a hell of a lot to pay for. I wouldnt count on being forgiven too much if I were you. Start giving sadaqah and doing other things because you’re far from safe. You don’t have any respect for women…period. That is enough to see your pathetic attempt at being forgiven was half-hearted at best. Its just a gesture you perform after your namaz isnt it? Tawbah is just a motion for people like you. It means nothing in reality.

If someone paid me a million dollars…I still would never want to be you.

For some people, life is easy because they dont pay for their sins in this world…they pay later…

Very Well Said.

@lahori99

i think (s)he meant that its much easier for women to get laid. Honestly, how many men would say no to a girl if she wants to do you. Even if she is ugly, she could get someone, there are guys who wouldnt say no even if they have to put a bag on her face.

[goddamniamsoawesome]

Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife

Wow, what a completely messed up thread. The OP seems about as ignorant as Edal to me.

I don't think you can judge anyone for wanting to be with a virgin. And that goes for both men and women. It doesn't matter if they've engaged in a physically intimate encounter/relationship. They still have every right to 'demand a virgin'. It is their personal choice.

So the OP is pretty retarded for hating on guys who want virgins. And Edal is pretty retarded for saying men are better than women in that regards.

[Gina]

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@Jolie

What?

Pretty laughable statement. No, woman can’t have sex whenever she feels like and whoever is available. Exactly what kind of social skills men need to book an hooker? Even science says woman invest emotions in sex whereas for men it could be purely physical by all means, this is one the main reason why woman’s infidelity is taken lot more seriously.

^:lajawab:

If by “pure” you mean a girl that has NO clue about the male anatomy, if you’ve passed grade 7 that would be next-to-impossible!

[Sehrysh]

Re: To all the men who want a “pure” virgin wife

Men who sleep around and then want an untouched wife no doubt suffer from a sense of inadequacy. They fall “short” when it comes to satisfying their partner and figure if she doesn’t know any better, she has no clue what she’s missing out on. Becharay “mard” They deserve our pity, not our scorn

[Spock]

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I despise it too......but i don't get one thing..whenever some troll like EDAL/amzsonikuri mentions something.......all you guys just get worked up and keep indulging this 'debate' again.......n again....n again.....

haha, its like one woman bashing troll brings out a hundred man-bashing trolls from hibernation!

[NomiCA]

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@Spock

haha, its like one woman bashing troll brings out a hundred man-bashing trolls from hibernation!

[goddamniamsoawesome]

Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife

To all the ladies here. I don't really think anyone can judge a person for wanting to marry a virgin. Men/Women/Whatever. Everyone has the right to decide their spouse/partner. There's no psycho-analyses to be done to either sex. There's no big deal in it.

[princessjojo]

Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife

Wanting is one thing, thinking that you deserve it is another. I don't think anyone deserves anything which they don't have on offer themselves. Justifying it with retarded notions of male superiority is foolish and myopic. That is what is pricking people here.

[Reha]

Re: To all the men who want a “pure” virgin wife

@Sehrysh

Men who sleep around and then want an untouched wife no doubt suffer from a sense of inadequacy. They fall “short” when it comes to satisfying their partner and figure if she doesn’t know any better, she has no clue what she’s missing out on. Becharay “mard” They deserve our pity, not our scorn

That is exactly IT!

[redvelvet]

Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife

A person has the right to desire any quality that they want in a spouse. Edal has the right to want a virgin wife. That's not the issue here. The issue is the hypocrisy of demanding or feeling entitled to a pure wife when you are far from it yourself. And the even bigger issue is calling a non-virgin woman "trash" and reducing her to an object.....and not including yourself under that label for committing the sin just because you're a man and did taubah.