I can tell by their dress at least they are pukka Pakistanis and also I can you use my brain to compare their actions to the ones they have taken in NWFP/FATA. Also, I know you need a strong ideology to do this type of an attack and this ideology is only taught in jihadi madrassahs and camps of Pakistan.
I wear pant shirt, so it means that I am westerner :p
I can tell by their dress at least they are pukka Pakistanis and also** I can you use my brain** to compare their actions to the ones they have taken in NWFP/FATA. Also, I know you need a strong ideology to do this type of an attack and this ideology is only taught in jihadi madrassahs and camps of Pakistan.
Kidnapping for ransom, which these thugs were going for, is a tried and tested Taliban policy in NWFP/FATA, so no surprise they would also try this in Punjab.
The poor guy is not claiming that they are not!!! You are the one claiming they are Pakistanis looking at their dresses..
Looking at the dress you can figure out the nationality and the ideology behind their actions.
Your claim of using your brain is atleast not proven by what you post.
I fail to understand why all Altaf supporters are so deficient in basic intelligence.
It is a sad fact that instead of focussing on catching the actual culprits and trying to take corrective action everyone involved is blaming the RAW. For that matter the blame game is yet to happen..
Some action should be taken against those responsible for sanitising the route.
How come there was no back up. The fight took place for around 30 mins. Why did not reinforcements arrive. How did the terrorists manage to escape. Why was the initial investigations so shoddy. These are the questions that should be on everybody's minds. But that is not to be. Everybody is chasing shadows...
Looks like some of them are Pakistanis after all !!! … Though the report does not say that this guy is a Pakistani … but i would be brave enough to guess that someone running a bussiness in Lahore COULD be one …
The four men included Muhammad Faisal, a brother of Muhammad Adil – the ‘mastermind’ of the attack – sources privy to the probe told Daily Times, adding that they were arrested during raids in Lahore by the Crime Investigation Agency (CIA). Sources in the agency said Adil – who ran sports bikes business on the Outfall Road in Islampura – received a call from one of the attackers at about 9:05am. In the call intercepted by the police, the attacker asks the planner for instructions after the attack, and was told to go to a location near Islampura
Think Rehman Malik effect is taking place here also … before you know what happened or who did what … they have been able to find out the “mastermind”
Some action should be taken against those responsible for sanitising the route.
How come there was no back up. The fight took place for around 30 mins. Why did not reinforcements arrive. How did the terrorists manage to escape. Why was the initial investigations so shoddy. These are the questions that should be on everybody's minds. But that is not to be. Everybody is chasing shadows...
The lahore police commisioner has accepted the "security lapse" from his boys .... guess he was left with no option ....... when someone like Musharaf was taking pot shots at the police force ....
He (Mushy) was appalled that the police could not take even one terrorist down .... he said it should have taken the elite force "3 seconds" to do that job ..... he was highly critical of the "elite forces" !!!!!!!!
It is a sad fact that instead of focussing on catching the actual culprits and trying to take corrective action everyone involved is blaming the RAW. For that matter the blame game is yet to happen..
Looks like someone stepped on someone's tail here. You only seem to be reading posts about "RAW", why is that? There is a saying "chor ki darhi mai tinka".
BTW, a very interesting result from NDTV's journalistic investigation:
"The target was team India".
I guess they used up all the smart terrorists in Mumbai and the Dumb one were left to do the Lahore job. Couldn't even realize the difference between Indians and Sri Lankans!
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The lahore police commisioner has accepted the "security lapse" from his boys .... guess he was left with no option ....... when someone like Musharaf was taking pot shots at the police force ....
He (Mushy) was appalled that the police could not take even one terrorist down .... he said it should have taken the elite force "3 seconds" to do that job ..... he was highly critical of the "elite forces" !!!!!!!!
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Pur police is only gud to be puppets of Politicians, nothing Else... All of us knew that india is gona do something, so Y was tehre police , there should be Rangers or atleaset Elite Force.
But then again , when the who system is Corrupted, who can we blame ......
Mr Pervez did admit though that there were “certain security lapses which are very vivid and very clear”.
“The gunmen were meant to be combated by backup police support, which didn’t arrive,” he said, “and the vehicles used for escorting the Sri Lankan convoy were not adequate.”
Saleem Shahzad of Asia Times has this report that the attack was done by "Punjabi Taliban" with the goal of abducting the Srilankan team and then demanding their comrades's releases. That is why the rockets and bullets were targetted at the drivers and the security detail. The bus was fired on, when the driver decided to drive away. **The plan was to demand release of Lashkar militants and other Punjabi Taliban prisoners held in Swat. As per swat deal, the local Taliban are to be released soon but the Punjabi Taliban are left in cold. **The attackers were prepared for a long standoff (like Mumbai) and after the release, they were supposed to go to the emirates of Waziristan.
Once the bus was able to get away, the attackers had to abondon their plans. Another report stated that the route for the bus convoy was changed at the last minute. The security detail was told of a threat to the original route by a phone call to trick them to take the alternate route.
These are not official reports yet but makes sense.
Now this makes a lot of sense to me...
If true then we are done in for a few months if not years atleast given that all 12-14 of these barbaric murderers are still at large (god knows how many more of such deranged minds are out there!!)
May God have His mercy on Pakistan and Pakistanis, may God protect the lives of all the citizens of Pakistan and may God foil all future evil designs and attacks of these cowardly terrorists - Ameen
I have told earlier that "RAW" is behind the attacks.
Just think like this, when neighbours house is on fire, there are more chances that your home will go on fire, so how come RAW do this, Cricket is big thing in India
Is it just a coincidence that a few months after Mumbai attack the same kind of attack happens in Lahore. Only difference being terrorists failed this time. (Thank God).
But why is everyone jumping up and down now that Pakistanis seems to think RAW is behind this in some way. They forgot how ISI was blamed for Mumbai attack. How soon they forget...
The poor guy is not claiming that they are not!!! You are the one claiming they are Pakistanis looking at their dresses..
Looking at the dress you can figure out the nationality and the ideology behind their actions.
Your claim of using your brain is atleast not proven by what you post.
I fail to understand why all Altaf supporters are so deficient in basic intelligence.
Yes, you are so smart. They are all indians like the thousands of jihadis fighting security forces all over pakistan. I follow logic and history, you can follow what your gut tells you and what you ahve taught to believe.
Pakistan lawmakers Thursday accused the government of a “serious security lapse” over the Sri Lankan cricket attack and cited reports that the authorities were warned of a possible attack. The foreign relations committee of the Senate, or upper house of parliament, expressed “deep sorrow and regrets” for Tuesday’s attack, which left six police and two civilians dead, and seven Sri Lankan cricketers wounded. It “urged the government to investigate how such a serious lapse of security could occur when there were reports from within the government agencies that such an attack could be in the offing,” the committee said in a statement. The statement followed international criticism over security arrangements in Lahore, where the attack raised questions about the effectiveness of Pakistan’s war on Islamic militants. “This attack has inflicted a serious damage to the image of Pakistan and to the game of cricket in Pakistan,” the foreign relations committee said.
But why is everyone jumping up and down now that Pakistanis seems to think RAW is behind this in some way. They forgot how ISI was blamed for Mumbai attack. How soon they forget...
The Mumbai attacks were blamed on the lashkar e taiba ..... this stand has been vindicated by actions taken by Pakistan government ....
Now as for involvement of RAW in Lahore attack .... so far the indications from Pakistan is NOT pointing towards that ... though some people desperately want to show it otherwise .... number of people in press and the statements by governor of Punjab point towards a "home grown" link. I have posted the link from Daily news which shows as the "mastermind" being from Lahore itself ... now how far that is true i don't know only time will tell..... some points for you to ponder on what is being said about these attacks
Mr. Najam Seithi wrote an editorial in Daily Times saying that “Lahore tragedy has not been staged and sponsored by India”.
Mr. Imtiaz Alam said “India wanted to make surgical strikes but it was not behind this attack.”
Mr. Altaf Hussain of London said: “It was not done by India”.
Mr. Amir Mir wrote in The News “it was done by Al Qaeda.”
Ayesha Siddiqua said while talking to Dunya and other TV channels that ” It was done by Al Qaeda”.
Salman Taseer while speaknig live media at spot said “These *******s are those who have done the Mumbai attack.’
Mr. Altaf Hussain of London said: “It was not done by India”.
Firstly, no need to give him so much izzat, even if hes on your country's payroll, considering servants dont need to be given so much pyar.
Secondly, Miss Altaf Hussain also said that the creation of Pakistan was the greatest blunder in the history of mankind, and he said that in... INDIA!
Lastly, taking the first two into account, you honestly expect us to believe that creature? Infact, if anything the opposite of what he says is usually true, so thank you for convincing us, yes India is involved.
Firstly, no need to give him so much izzat, even if hes on your country's payroll, considering servants dont need to be given so much pyar.
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It looks like half of Pakistan is on India's payroll :D
Anyway that is not the issue being discused here .... you should perhaps open a new thread for your personal agenda where you can be critical of the general and the other such personalities in Pakistan ...... right now we are talking about the Lahore attacks and the persons responsible for it ....