So much for bashing....

tammy, i would have issues with a guy looking after my kid... btu thats me.

Obviously only applicable to the guys but nonetheless still advantages to him. There are plenty of losers in the UK who live this way and their parents (esp mothers) are also happy with the arrangement.. Sad but true..

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Just to make it clear the Islamic perspective on living with inlaws, I came across this whilst looking up something else:

Studies show that parental and in-laws intervention have a devastating affect on a marriage. In-law problems rank 1st or 2nd as problems both in newly wed and long term marriages. Advice is one thing; actively intervening in the affairs of the new family is another. And active intervention is totally wrong! If you live in a two floor house, then one floor should be for you and the other should be for your mother in law. I have seen in some houses where the parents live upstairs and the newly wed live downstairs and have their own kitchen. If you live in a two floor house and they can not be divided for whatever reasons, then at least, you should have your own kitchen if possible. A scholar says that all the fires in the house start from the cooking stove. Isn’t it so annoying when you want to prepare something for your husband and the mother in law comes and says that no don’t do it this way but do it that way? Or the sister in law comes and starts meddling?.. SIGH….. Sister……. I feel for you. If you live in an apartment, and the problem still persists then it should be explained to your husband that he should kindly send her mother to stay with her other sons for a number of months. I have seen that happen where the parents stay at the various children’s houses.’

Source: Mother in law: Demanding & interfering she wants to know all the intimate detail

Also see: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=11&ID=7128&CATE=121

And yet some ppl strangely keep pushing the idea that living out of hubby’s bedroom in the inlaws house even at the beginning of marriage is somehow desirable in Islam..

Did I ever condemn working women? :)

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So no one would like to hire a man for babysitting..............?

OK.This assumes all kids are 4-5 years old or older at the same time! There may be younger child than 4-5 years old at home.

lol..yes!

Trying to win both ways..

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^ kids under 4-5 need proper stimulation.. they need activities to help them grow help them find their strenghts. Sitting at home, watching their mum do housework aint really teaching them much...

Hummm...so you mean woman working at home has no interaction with the child and the child just watches the mother do house chores? That's it?

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^ ur assuming that a mother who works during those years doesnt do much either with the child

Nope!

if she is home then she is home.

If she is out then she is out! simple...

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If God intended men and women to perform same roles in society, HE would not have bothered with two genders.

^^^I would love to read a counter to this point! :)

I thought there was no need to do all these calculations n reasoning to be with family :(. Unfortunately this is what people have become. Very Sad.

And before people jump at me saying oh why shud we live with hubby's parents, why cnt the hubby live with our parents...blah blah. Well that's cuz that's the way it was always suppose to be, this is the way it works out better. So LIVE WITH IT :D

Well Said.

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I would want to live with my hubby only in the beginning for at least a few years. But I would never MIND having his parents around. Some men really are touchy about how their wives treat his parents.

and secondly, even though in Islam, there is no compulsion to actually take care of in laws, but for a better society I think the benefits do outweigh the problems.

*And most importantly, do you want to imagine your ownself say 40 years from now, living all alone in an apartment or been thrown away in some miserable old home? with your grandchildren telling you *

*'mom says, you are too much of a nuisance to look after when you are around' *

:)

This time would come on us too. We would see how much would we crave for independence and privacy THEN when we would actually have ample amount of it :p'

SO my point. A little trouble in the beginning can save a lifetime of troubles later, esp during your frail years !

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It all depends on the kind of relationship you have with them.

So basically, what goes around, comes around! :)

I already mentioned I wouldn't mind a guy babysitting as long as he's mature enough. My fiance babysits his nieces and nephews whenever he is around. My brother used to babysit our younger siblings. I have never heard from from anyone that a man can't babysit.

If God intended women to stay at home, he wouldn't have made them capable of working and blessed them with intellect. But as it turns out, women are equally capable of working and earning.

Sorry I missed that. The question was hiring a male as opposed to female.

While the presence of a a male would be unacceptable by husband for obvious reason, a young male boy will still be turned down for this kind of work more often than ANY female.

For a logical answer: Just because a knife can kill someone, that is not what it should be used! :)

To be honest, if the guy seems mature I wouldn't have a problem in hiring him as a babysitter. I would only hire a babysitter that I personally know, either a guy or a girl. Gender isn't important, maturity and responsibility is.

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Theres no "logical" answer to this. It's all gender stereotyping that people are so accustomed to.

just to expand on the relationship part for others reading,

thats a little passive, we dont 'have' a relationship we 'build and 'maintain' a relationship. yes we only have control on 50% of the relationship, but its not just handed to us as a static predetermined situation which we dont have an impact on.