President rubbishes appointments of CJ!

since every one is quoting the Aljehad trust case, here’s some information about the case and the views of wahab ul khairi who was the founder of al-jehad trust…

Judges, experts clarify confusion on Ramday issue
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Judges, experts clarify confusion on Ramday issue**

ISLAMABAD: Two major developments on Sunday almost buried the latest controversy over the ad hoc appointment of Justice Khalilur Rehman Ramday after his retirement on January 12, as Presidency sources said Ramday would be appointed by President Zardari without delay.

Confusion was created by some incorrect interpretations of the Al-Jihad Trust SC judgment, which were explained on Sunday.A credible and relevant source in the Presidency told our sources it is absolutely incorrect that President Asif Zardari has decided not to accept recommendation of Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry regarding appointment of Justice Khalilur Rahman Ramday as an ad hoc judge of the Supreme Court after his retirement on January 12, 2010.

The source said according to his information there is no sign or chance that the president will reject the recommendation. He said the news items in the media are speculative and are being spread by some vested interests in the law ministry.

On the other hand, Presidential spokesman Farhatullah Babar told our sources on Sunday evening it is very unfortunate and incorrect to say that the president has already decided to reject the recommendation which the presidency has not even received as yet.

“I can confirm that till the Sunday night the presidency had not received the recommendation of Justice Ramday to be appointed as an ad hoc judge of the Supreme Court,” Farhatullah Babar said, adding: “No decision has been made so far in this regard and he will be in a position to speak on the issue once the presidency receives this recommendation.”

The source in the presidency, however, asserted according to his knowledge, the president would take no time in accepting any recommendation in this regard after it is received. The other major development was the statement of Habib Wahabul Khairi, the founder of the Al-Jihad Trust and winner of the historic Judges Case of 1996, which laid down the basic rules and regulations for the appointment of judges.

**Khairi, while talking to our sources, said confusion regarding the judgment in his case was being deliberately spread and some people are trying to befool the people through wrong interpretations of the judgment. Khairi said at no point the Al-Jihad Trust case judgment declares that the senior most chief justice of a high court will be elevated to the Supreme Court.

“Besides giving the concept of legitimate expectancy to be considered for higher judicial appointments in the judgment, it remains the discretion of the chief justice to recommend elevation of either the chief justice of a high court or the senior most judge of that high court as a judge of the Supreme Court.**

“In the present case, the chief justice has full constitutional powers and authority to recommend Justice Saqib Nisar for elevation to the Supreme Court and not consider Lahore High Court Chief Justice Khwaja Sharif Ahmad for this elevation,” Khairi said, adding: “At no point the Al-Jihad Trust case judgment says that a superseded judge will have to resign.”

Khairi said the judgment of the Al-Jihad Trust Case has been misunderstood by some people regarding ad hoc appointments. “One thing should be made clear that the judgment of the Al-Jihad Trust Case dealt with a specific situation and it in no way challenges, alters or deletes the method already written and powers conferred on the chief justice of Pakistan in the Constitution of Pakistan under Article 182 for the appointment of an ad hoc judge of the Supreme Court.”

Khairi said as the recommendation of the judge of the Lahore High Court to be elevated to the Supreme Court has been made by the chief justice, there is no vacancy in the Supreme Court. “Secondly, even if recommendation is not made judgment of Al-Jihad Trust Case does not amend the Constitution and in accordance with Article 182, the chief justice of the Supreme Court could write for any ad hoc appointment and the 1996 Judges Case verdict does not apply to the present situation.”

**Former chief justice of Pakistan Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui told our sources on Sunday at no point the Al-Jihad Trust Case judgment binds the chief justice to recommend the chief justice of a high court to be elevated as judge of the Supreme Court and the chief justice could recommend number two or even number three senior most judge for this elevation.

He said confusion in this regard has been created because of intermixing of the Al-Jihad Trust Case with Malik Asad Case by some people. He said in Malik Asad case, he himself headed the bench, which gave the verdict in 1997 that senior most judge of a high court will become the chief justice of that high court and senior most judge of the Supreme Court will become the chief justice of Pakistan. He said what needed to be understood is that the seniority principle is not applied in the issue of elevation of high court judge to the Supreme Court.
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Justice Siddiqui declared if the chief justice recommends Justice Saqib Nisar, who is second in seniority, for elevation to the Supreme Court and ignores the chief justice of the same high court, neither the Constitution nor the Al-Jihad Trust case bars him from doing so.

The former chief justice of Pakistan said if the chief justice has recommended the appointment of Justice Saqib Nisar to fill the only vacant post in the Supreme Court there is no problem with reference to the Al-Jihad Trust Case judgment and it does not influence the appointment of Justice Ramday as an ad hoc judge of the Supreme Court.

Former Supreme Court judge Justice Wajihuddin Ahmad told our sources that those trying to create confusion need to understand two things: seniority and fitness. Wajih said appointment of a judge on a permanent position is entirely different from the appointment of a judge on ad hoc basis.

He said while making appointments in high courts and the Supreme Court criteria of seniority-cum-fitness is considered but seniority has top priority. While making the appointments on ad hoc basis in the Supreme Court the criteria is the same but here fitness is more relevant.

He said ad hoc appointments are made in accordance with Article 182 of the Constitution and here the chief justice does not ‘recommend’ but according to exact words of the Constitution ‘writes’ to the judge, with approval of the president, informing him of his appointment as an ad hoc judge.

Justice Wajih said the Al-Jihad Trust Case judgment was comprehensive and has laid the basis for the appointment of judges. But, as far as the appointment of ad hoc judges is concerned in the resent situation not a single point of this historic judgment bars the appointment of any ad hoc judge.

Wajih also declared that recommendation of Justice Saqib Nisar to be elevated to the Supreme Court was absolutely in accordance with the law and the Al-Jihad Trust Case judgment. The appointment of Justice Ramday as an ad hoc judge was also not in conflict with either the Constitution or this ‘96 judgment.

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The courts and the judges need to understand that they are at mercy of the executive branch of the govt. The judges can sit and writing rulings all day long, but if the executive branch refused to implement their rulings, there isn't much they can do. We have countless cases of such incidents in the US over last 200 years, and many presidents, including FDR, tried to packed courts with his appointees, but at the end it never worked.

So, its in interested of everybody, and especially the country, to depoliticized the judicial system, and judges should not make and break rules depending on who is in power and how it suits them and their stand in power structure of the country. We have seen what can happen when they collide, and when they do collide, they system loses the legitimacy in eyes of the public. Good example of that is when NS goons attacked the SC, and more recently when a military dictator booted out entire judiciary.

i had stakes, had no choice !

Yes the dogs are waiting to take over the government from the hyena’s. :smiley:

shameful comment.

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We are looking shameful acts.
Sharifs, Courts. Dogs and
We the poor civilians.
We can only see .

GEO Pakistan****President appointed judges on seniority grounds: Law ministry Updated at: 0243 PST, Sunday, February 14, 2010

ISLAMABAD: Spokesman of the ministry of law has said upon the advise of Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani, the President Asif Ali Zardari has appointed judges, keeping in view the ethics of seniority.

In a statement issued from here, the law ministry said according to the decision of Al-Jihad Trust, the most senior judge and the Chief Justice of Lahore High Court (LHC) was sent to Supreme Court (SC) while Justice Saqib Nisar was appointed as the Chief Justice of LHC in compliance with 196th provision of constitution.

The spokesman said the process of consultation in connection with the appointments of these judges had been completed many times, while the summary received here, carrying the orders of the appointments of additional judges in Sindh, was sent back as the recommendations from chief minister Sindh had not been sought.

He said the recommendation from chief minister Sindh was necessary for the process of additional judges’ appointment to complete.

And see what people saying today

Chief justice and other pco judges must be removed because article 6 and 248

Isn't Pakistan's political climate different than US?

your right there should be separation of powers between the branches, but as article 177 stated that the president (executive) should have consultation with CJ before making the appointments.

What about the SC verdict on the NRO? and not any action taken...

So clear
please see the word
** consultation
What does this mean?
**

Some of the people in here are serious puppies of Zardari the crook.

The Presidency has been mocking the Judiciary in every step.
Aata,
Sugar
Gas
NRO
appointment of judges.

It is about time that the judiciary stand up for itself. Waiting for a u-turn from the presidency otherwise Zardari is done.

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The term consultation has not been strictly defined, but it's generally meant that it's not binding.

The 1996 case also was supposed to set a precedent where the senior most judge is supposed to be elevated to the court. While Zardari is no angel CJ is over reaching his authority and crossing into executive domain, i suspect not all the judges in the SC were on board with CJs decision as well hence the size of the bench he summoned.

This issue was addressed in the charter of democracy, which suggests all appointments be made by a commission led by a non PCO judge.

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lage raho:D:

every thing needs to be changed in Pakistan, total constitution either
its made only the MUFADAT of hyenas like Presidents, PMs. CJs, Generals
nothing inside favor of public. and public also need to be changed seigh........

peace on us

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Seems Zardari is followin in Musharraf’s footstep. Democracy is under threat most definitely from those who consider themselves the saviours and protectors of Democracy.

No , It is fruit of democracy that he is acting easily like a political party.
No rule of him.
Most of you are educated people.
Can any one tell me that
Can he be a judge?
In cases where he is himself a party
JUDGES CASE
NRO CASE
And this case.

What has the government done for the poor civilians as yet?

You want to say that the CJ was a party to NRO???

By the way why are you hurt if someone has asked zardari (Mr 10%) to return the looted wealth of our poor pakistanis?

Whats the meaning of this word according to you?

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Army to maintain distance

ISLAMABAD: The armed forces of the country would maintain a distance, for the time being, from tensions that have resurfaced between the country’s judiciary and the executive over the appointment of judges, according to defence sources. The sources said the armed forces considered it unnecessary to jump in to ease the tensions, as there was no immediate danger to the political system of the country and its institutions. “The army top brass know their limits and will follow the policy of wait and see, giving proper time to the civilian forces to sort out the difference on their own,” according to the sources. However, they said the army would also not let the current imbroglio linger on for unlimited period of time. “The role played by the armed forces at the time of mass movement for the restoration of the judiciary will be replicated, as the army would like to play the role of an honest broker and gain the respect of the masses,” they said. It is generally believed army chief Ashfaq Kayani has been playing a key role to avert showdowns between the government and the opposition. The sources said the military leadership was committed to its professional responsibilities, and had no mind of indulging in political issues. sajjad malik

Your talk is garbage Pasha. Nonsense. Its what people of this jackazz sellout party members come out and say(ala. Fuzool Wahab, Babar Awan....), and is the same thing you are repeating. "CJ is a party......."
"CJ should take part in election because he dared to question a thief......."

If 1 person in 170million has earned the right to question these powerful, sellout, corrupt individuals you guys call him a party to defame his name so the real questions your leaders don't answer.

was this govt. didnt select by peoples ?

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Consultations means that the appointments should be discussed with the CJ according to the constitution. That did not happen. Zardari violated the constitution. That simple.