Re: Porn-are you ok with it?
I think people with a conscience do not accept it as a normal. I just have problems with people who do incorrect things and then justify their behavior. Just admit that the act was wrong.
Stoppit, you are right about the temptation. There are many many many temptations out there, even something as simple as a Whopper at Burger King. Sometimes I want to go ahead and grab one and do tawbah after that 
but as long as I can resist it I will continue to try.
Re: Porn-are you ok with it?
No I wouldn't be okay with it. It would creep me out.
It's well known that Pakistani guys are the biggest consumers of porn in the world (Source: Google Trends). I know lots of guys rely on it instead of relationships for whatever reason. After marriage, what is your view on porn? Would you be ok with your husband using it? I am trying to see all perspectives..please add your own...I hope it will help me formulate mine.
no pakistani guys in ur family? why don't u ask them if they are ok with watching porn and why? i'm sure ur father, brother,fuance/hubby/cousins etc are all guys and you'll get a lot of feedback from them.
also about google trends n word sex...well sex is not only about/related to porn...however if you use the exact words like PORN / ADULT MOVIES..you'll see pak is not even in the top 10. also in US alone, adult industry is a $12billion + / year business. not everyone living in US is pakistani or from pakistan. so to generalize a whole country based on some lousy google statistics and even more lousy search-skills...can be sumed up in one word...pathetic.
Re: Porn-are you ok with it?
^ aww why r u so bitter? Got caught? :p
Re: Porn-are you ok with it?
Gosh! SO much aggression from the males guppies on the forbidden act of watching porn- what's your beef guys?! All jalebi121 was doing was basing her opinions (albeit abit too naively) on google trends. Rather than jumping down her throat and becoming so defensive, perhaps you could explain some of the reasons WHY you disagree, like mature men, not 14 year old boys in the school playground.
Btw, watching porn is haraam- it's like fornication of the eyes. Any unmarried person with uncontrollable sexual needs, wants/desires, should pray to Allah (SWT) for strength and offer voluntary fasts to gain some courage to overcome these emotions- which may lead them to the wrong path, e.g. sex before marriage, masturbation and WATCHING PORN among other acts.
Still, sex is a generic term... it doesn't prove that GUYS are doing it as you mentioned in your initial post, nor does it prove that search is being done for pleasure purposes.
If you have not seen porn and you don't know what it is, how can you ask question about its validity? Why does the man feel he needs to look at porn? Maybe there is something wrong with the woman? Maybe he does not find her attractive anymore? Maybe she doesn't stay clean, smells, doesn't shave often, has other bodily deformities, obese, etc. ...there could be many reasons...
That's a very lame excuse for watching porn, many many women stay attractive and yet their husbands still watch porn or cheat... and many women are not so and their husbands won't watch porn or cheat... I think ones porn habit has nothing to do with the spouse.....
Also, I think most people don't even know what porn is, they call hugging in bollywood movies or a girl in a miniskirt is a porno...
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That’s a very lame excuse for watching porn, many many women stay attractive and yet their husbands still watch porn or cheat… and many women are not so and their husbands won’t watch porn or cheat… I think ones porn habit has nothing to do with the spouse…
**Also, I think most people don’t even know what porn is, they call hugging in bollywood movies or a girl in a miniskirt is a porno…/**QUOTE]
Still, sex is a generic term... it doesn't prove that GUYS are doing it as you mentioned in your initial post, nor does it prove that search is being done for pleasure purposes.
If you have not seen porn and you don't know what it is, how can you ask question about its validity? Why does the man feel he needs to look at porn? Maybe there is something wrong with the woman? Maybe he does not find her attractive anymore? Maybe she doesn't stay clean, smells, doesn't shave often, has other bodily deformities, obese, etc. ...there could be many reasons...
Though I agree with you that the original poster jumps too quickly to accuse Pakistani men, I disagree with the end of your comment. It is incredibly unfair to blame the other partner for one's obsession with porn. If his needs aren't fulfilled it is also possible that he isn't being open with her. Or perhaps he isn't taking initiative. Perhaps he has closed himself off from her.
Or perhaps they have a great sex life, but the addiction to porn is not gone.
And I would freak out if I found that my husband watched porn.
ICK.
The closest he comes to watching porn is Sci Fi geek porn like Star Trek and Buffy.
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that is why one should get married as quickly as he can to protect himself and his akhira.
*"O youthful people, if any of you have the means to, he should get married, as it lowers the eyesight and protects the private parts. Those who have not the ability to do so should fast, as it will be a shield for him." *(*Bukhari and Muslim). *
*"When someone with whose religion and character you are satisfied, asks to marry your daughter, comply with his request. If you do not do so, there will be corruption and great evil on earth." **(Tirmidhi) *
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Well...I suppose it could be girls, but considering the difference in literacy rates between men and women in Pakistan, and also the fact that men consume more porn than women, it's realistic to assume that the majority of ppl searching for porn in pakistani 'net cafes' are men. But you can replace Pakistani 'guys' with 'web surfers'..question is the same.
I guess you haven't seen the videos of guys and girls making out while watching porn in net cafes. Do some search on youtube and you'll come across many videos. Not all guys are desperate for porn and not all girls are innocent. Stop generalizing.
Re: Porn-are you ok with it?
I dunno about porn, but I love prawns, mmm... tasty...
But in all seriousness, I'm pretty sure all of us here have seen some porn in our lives, specially when younger and didn't know how things 'worked'. In our culture, the parents don't have the sex talk with their kids, which I think is wrong and another topic altogether.
But many of us learned about sex from porn. Am I justifying porn, no, is it going to be around forever and is many a teenager going to learn about sex from porn? Absolutely! Unfortunately, it is now extremely easy to stumble across porn, this is a problem. I don't care if an adult wants to go nuts (no pun intended) over some porn, but my problem is with children having such easy access to porn.
Moreover, porn has devolved into some extremely depraved acts. In my day, porn was two people having sex, not too horribly nasty. Today, there is a porn site for every possible fetish and sick fantasy. The problem with this is that our young ones are growing up with very unrealistic expectations about sex. Boys are going to end up expecting their wives/girlfriends to do some seriously degrading $hit and girls are going to grow up feeling that they need to do some of these degrading things to hold on to their man.
In the end, I think it IS a sickness and while some may get momentary enjoyment out of it, I think it has long term negative effects.
Re: Porn-are you ok with it?
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I guess you haven't seen the videos of guys and girls making out while watching porn in net cafes. Do some search on youtube and you'll come across many videos. Not all guys are desperate for porn and not all girls are innocent. Stop generalizing.
ok^ how many homes have been broken because of men's addiction to porn..and their visits to certain types of women who are in this industry....?
yes the man and woman are to blame in this situation..why because they are BOTH participating...so the relevance of your example does not pertain to the general problem...where men are completely sucked into the world of porn....to a point where everyone from their families to their work..suffers.
the general 'bachelor' mentality is usually to blame...the longer a guy remains a bachelor...the harder it is for him to adjust in a relationship.....thus the problem with communicating....relating to the female...compassion....empathy..things that come naturally....are delayed in his nature...sometimes...they dont show up...which we all know is very true in asian cultures....as a result.....the birth of compassion does not take place in many marriages...(just an observation)
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Chanda I am not talking about addiction of porn. My reply was strictly to the statement made by the poster that it's guys that search for the term sex in net cafes. I corrected the poster by saying that girls also go to net cafes in Pakistan and they also search for porn and watch porn, sometimes alone while other times with guys and/or girls and make out in those cubes while watching porn. I've been to Pakistani net cafes during my visit to Pakistan when I had to receive an urgent scanned document from home and I did not have the time to go home and view the document. I had to go to the cafe as I was out and print the document and go to the bank before it closed for holidays. I pulled down the history thinking SOMEONE would've gone to hotmail but I didn't find that link there, instead I found many links to porn sites. Girls were also customers of that net cafe.
^ i find it hard to beleive kidz are making out in puiblic in pakistan..:aq:
Re: Porn-are you ok with it?
^ That's why I suggested that anyone who doubts that should search for some videos on youtube. I can't post it here as it violates Gupshup policy, but trust me, there are plenty of videos online that I have come across (no I didn't search for them, they were in "related videos" or "more videos by this user" section when I was watching a video once :D)
^ That's why I suggested that anyone who doubts that should search for some videos on youtube. I can't post it here as it violates Gupshup policy, but trust me, there are plenty of videos online that I have come across (no I didn't search for them, they were in "related videos" or "more videos by this user" section when I was watching a video once :D)
i remember a mazar-e-qaid video ...:(
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I agree. Porn is sick and disgusting and I dont understand how any Muslims could argue otherwise
Re: Porn-are you ok with it?
*porn is an integral and important part of human life. Just because it is now on internet, it is not different from traditional brothels and Mujras which are going on for centuries if not longer. What internet porn provides is actually much better and safer form of entertainment compared to the traditional formats for both the viewer and performer.
Viewer has his privacy and safety of watching it from inside his home, while the performer has safety of practicing it from a distance and to a much larger audience. It prevents the abuse and violence which otherwise is a common thing in brothels and Mujras where viewers/visitors get drunk and lose control over there senses.*