*Read this, all of you porn-hating shmucks. Long live the pizza delivery guy with the chance of a lifetime :o.
P.S: I always thought that the smiley :o referred to some sort of pornographic behaviour. Even the GS admins love porn :k:*
Chanda I am not talking about addiction of porn. My reply was strictly to the statement made by the poster that it's guys that search for the term sex in net cafes. I corrected the poster by saying that girls also go to net cafes in Pakistan and they also search for porn and watch porn, sometimes alone while other times with guys and/or girls and make out in those cubes while watching porn. I've been to Pakistani net cafes during my visit to Pakistan when I had to receive an urgent scanned document from home and I did not have the time to go home and view the document. I had to go to the cafe as I was out and print the document and go to the bank before it closed for holidays. I pulled down the history thinking SOMEONE would've gone to hotmail but I didn't find that link there, instead I found many links to porn sites. Girls were also customers of that net cafe.
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In your passage you claim that girls also watch porn in public net-cafes, which may be true for few spoiled ones but you can't just brush it on "girls", specially since you have not explained further on the object other than mentioning some irrelevant point that you found some porn links in history of net-cafe's computer which could have very well been use by some guy or for that.
Regarding the videos found by you on youtube, how you know they are from Pakistan for sure (other than those classy mujra ones), do they come with some certificate guaranteeing it. My question is, why you think they might not be from INDIA as people making out on this tiny cams can very well be our neighbors.
And, when we are at it, why you don't look at the possibility of it is as a setup instead as people do fanatize about making out in weird ways and in uncommon places, and professional artists/porn-people want to show that hence make it look like real situation when it may all just be something for entertainment purpose only.
so instead of looking it through a shallow and narrow view, look at it from the broader prospect of conflicting mind of young person to artistic mind of a porn artist.
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porn is an integral and important part of human life. Just because it is now on internet, it is not different from traditional brothels and Mujras which are going on for centuries if not longer. What internet porn provides is actually much better and safer form of entertainment compared to the traditional formats for both the viewer and performer. *
yep they are going on for centuries...but what happened to those nations who exercised those practices, is also mentioned in Quran.
Viewer has his privacy and safety of watching it from inside his home, while the performer has safety of practicing it from a distance and to a much larger audience. It prevents the abuse and violence which otherwise is a common thing in brothels and Mujras where viewers/visitors get drunk and lose control over there senses.
the aspect you mentioned is called Voyeurism, where viewer secretly tries to gain se*ual pleasure.
though your idea of disruption do formulate a solid base, but Voyeurism is load corrosive then you can imagine as it directly affects your mind, you personality and makes other conclude that the person is not of a strong character who dont even have controls on their nerves.
ps. viewing, or performing such action is not a good practice, period.
ALLAH SWT humain inhi occasions per hum-main azmatay hain, cuz it is not necessary k abb war he ho or app ka Iman check kia jayea
yep they are going on for centuries...but what happened to those nations who exercised those practices, is also mentioned in Quran.
the aspect you mentioned is called Voyeurism, where viewer secretly tries to gain se*ual pleasure.
though your idea of disruption do formulate a solid base, but Voyeurism is load corrosive then you can imagine as it directly affects your mind, you personality and makes other conclude that the person is not of a strong character who dont even have controls on their nerves.
ps. viewing, or performing such action is not a good practice, period.
ALLAH SWT humain inhi occasions per hum-main azmatay hain, cuz it is not necessary k abb war he ho or app ka Iman check kia jayea
porn is just an entertainment, just like mujras from traditional times.** It relieves the person from stress and STOPS the actual crime*, and regarding what other think, you can't live your life based on what other think. You live it first for youself. How these other so called moral policing ppl will justify if due to lack of entertainment someone does something more drastic. **Viewing and performing both are legimate actions as it keeps the balance of society in sane condition, *and last but not least, don't hide your weak and short sightness behind religion. We are discussing a social issue, not the religious one.**
It's well known that Pakistani guys are the biggest consumers of porn in the world (Source: Google Trends). I know lots of guys rely on it instead of relationships for whatever reason. After marriage, what is your view on porn? Would you be ok with your husband using it? I am trying to see all perspectives..please add your own...I hope it will help me formulate mine.
Dear Jalebi121,
u might be the first girl in the world to say that pakistani guys are into porn as per that so called google thingy!!!
i have grown and matured in a white environment and trust me europe is the biggest base for such retarded acts and merchandise issuance... if paki guys watch such stuff, then who they watch "the white race, they love to see white girls ...........". they are so damn corrupt not only they r destroying their nations and civilizations but also are ruining muslim minds too!!!
go to UK, step into any internet cafes, boy aged between 11 to 16 are into the porn s.h.i.t!!!!! its a self made terrorism if u ask me, being thrown by the WEST!!
i am strictly against young boys watching such stuff as they become mature before their age. But i am no one to stop it as their freinds are the ones who download it from the internet, yet another gift which the Westernized extra modern and ppl who we follow, human race has given us!!!! its a shame that it just keeps on going and going!!!!!
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entertainment…so viewing and having power on others body is an entertainment for you?
what if your body is objectified, or someone really important for you, is being objectified in others eyes? 
ps. i strongly believe you should start fearing ALLAH SWT, before your mind fully become paralyzed.
do you even know the definition of a crime?
ps. next time please refrain describing so-called phatechar norms.
balance society? so acc, to ur definition women do agree to become prostitute so they can fill up the se*ual desires of men, in order to create a balance society!
if religion is weak and short sighted thing for you, then show me any social dogma where there is no religion exist.
PS: seems like you have no idea what you are talking about, period.
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is porn ok with itself 
religion is weak and short sighted thing for you, then show me any social dogma where there is no religion exist.
*seems like you have lost your wheel alignment as I was talking about you and your irrational explanation, and not religion. I was pointing out your narrow spectrum of mindset and its urge for jumping guns and judging anything and everything.
maybe it is too late in night for you, how about you catch some sleep, or step aside and understand what I'm trying to say from a bigger prospective. It is very easy to give fatwa but much harder to understand the complex nature of this subject and importance of its existence in society. *
*seems like you have lost your wheel alignment as I was talking about you and your irrational explanation, and not religion. I was pointing out your narrow spectrum of mindset and its urge for jumping guns and judging anything and everything. *
*maybe it is too late in night for you, how about you catch some sleep, or step aside and understand what I'm trying to say from a bigger prospective. It is very easy to give fatwa but much harder to understand the complex nature of this subject and importance of its existence in society. *
Well said Samad :biggthumb,
I completely agree with you, ppl like these with such limited mindsets can never ever generalise any discussion or point of view the positive way. Its very easy to say Quranic versus, but in reality do they actually follow it.......
I refrain myself from saying any Quanic sayings, I am also a muslim and mashallah Hafiz e Quarn. As I know what I am, but these ppl are the ones who are exploiting others as well!!! They think by using religion they can easily over power certain grounds, that is absolutely not true! Ur personality defines what u r.... if u have to meet some one for the first time, u wont meet the person by his/her religion but definitely by personality... such ppl are having very weak personality who take sahara of other objectives to make theirselves more dominant.
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wow....so there are some muslim guppies who actually support this kinda stuff.
Stick to the topic and refrain from making personal attacks on each other. This is a forum and everyone is entitled to their own view.
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^its got nothing to do with religion. watching porn is just as natural as masturbation. you cannot remove these dynamics of a person no matter how much religious dogmatic literature you throw at him. i for one find it hard to believe that god created us so screw only after marriage and that any form of sexual desires is a taboo. it is natural to go through these stages for a human being predominantly in the teen years and by saying that it is wrong is absolutely despicably stupid. no amount of religious dogmatic scripts can take away the fact that watching porn is fundamentally natural.
yep they are going on for centuries...but what happened to those nations who exercised those practices, is also mentioned in Quran.
please keep religion out of the discussion unless it is scientifically proven history.
^its got nothing to do with religion. watching porn is just as natural as masturbation. you cannot remove these dynamics of a person no matter how much religious dogmatic literature you throw at him.
Both are not natural, and one can live without them. Also as Muslim we can not consider anything without religious perspective because Islam is not just a religion but a complete way of life. Islam doesn't consider masterbation and porn as natural and I know people who have never been involved in these activities throughout their lives. Alhamdulillah.
p.s. If you are not a Muslim, then the above sentence might not be applicable to you.
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I think more than half of Pakistani men don't even have the resources to watch porn.
I think porn isn't explicitly quoted as haraam or halal, but common sense would dictate it as being disliked in Allah's view.
I think porn in it self, is not at all dangerous for one's mental or physical well-being, but it could cause your partner want to dissolve your relationship.
I think the fundamental purpose of porn is to fulfill a need. If that need is fulfilled, porn is useless.
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Porn is sh't. Porn destroys you. Porn gives you nothing. It makes the case worser. It's a addicition, it's a lanat. People watching porn, have God's wrath upon their head...
I wish I could burn down the Porn Industry. Would I commit a sin in doing that or would I go against our law? I give a damn about the world's law which is f'cked anyway...We need to burn it down.
I caught a very good friend of mine watching porn. He was embarassed. I took his laptop and smashed it into the wall. I didn't talk to him, I said don't call me your friend. I said I'll pay that, I'm sorry, but it had to be done to show you what I think about that (this is my way)...
I left his home and said to him think for awhile. Think about your girlfriend. Your future wife. Same evening he came crying to me and said yeah bro, that's what I need. I'm porn addicted. I don't go out anymore, I don't see my girl anymore.
I'm so glad I could make him realize in a strange way that there is something out there more worth than porn.
PORN IS CHEAP...
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The following is only for the "Muslims who think it is alright to watch porn". If you are not included in this category, kindly skip this message.
You know and I know that impure and dirt can't enter the Heaven. If you and I want to enter Jannah then we better extract all the impurities and dirt from our mind through tears of repentance, otherwise the fire of hell would be used for this purpose to make us pure enough to be allowed to enter jannah.
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Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succour.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.
Ameen