Physical Involvement

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Not true. I have liked some once off sensible posts from you.

While you talk about Pakistani girls, there is this strange animosity in your tone which sounds like you’re still in pain for being rejected. Get over with it please.

Its like you are trying to comfort yourself by telling that how indecents these girls are. Thanks GOD you just saved yourself.

You can talk in generic terms without going in details what people have told u. I am not advocating their shareefness either but you generalise too much. Just avoid it in future.

Got my point? :smilestar:

Now. Just chill :chai:

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Personally, don’t know any young folks partaking in these activities. Most are decent people, or I’d like to think they are.

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The guy who makes instigating remarks to me in almost every thread telling me to chill. And what is your obsession with generalizations–you just made several in your own post in this thread alone. This entire forum is filled with advice based on generalizations. You wont agree with all generalizations, dont take it so personally. I’m very pro female if you actually read my previous posts (im more critical of my own gender), and females don’t need you to be their savior on this forum, they’re very capable and intelligent to do it themselves when necessary. And stop bringing up my thread in every thread I post and derail other’s threads. It’s not fair to the OP.

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You forgot that I do appreciate when you sound reasonable. Secondly, learn to respect and you will be respected. The way you talk about women, you bring the worst out of me. Either learn to talk with respect or just dont bother.

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I don’t know what you read where I criticized women only while saying men were saints..some male posters on this forum are saying much much worse and i don’t agree with their views. Anyways, I’ve messaged you before in the past offering an olive branch both publicly and privately but you continue to lash out. Whatever issues you have with me (you act as though I personally did you wrong) let it go man. Ignore my posts if you don’t like them but stop bringing up my previous thread or attacking my character in every thread I post. Let’s get back on topic for this thread.

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I think all these people with past physical relationship should at least have the decency to be honest with their future spouse. If you have done the deed, please be proud and say it. why hide it?
p.s its nothing to be proud of, I am just being sarcastic.

Defo becoming more common and i agree with Reha… most who do become physical do intend to marry so in their eyes it doesn’t count as anything bad. It’s sad but to each his own.. everyone has their own sins to answer for. I

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no, not all of them are involved. There are still people who guard their modesty and will continue to do so even with so many temptations.
The practice is becoming common than it was before and things like hugging, kissing, caressing etc are not even seen as part of being physical these days.

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just in my personal opinion, its not necessary that people sleeping together in a relationship, are indecent people. I personally know of people who are in serious relationship and sexually involved with each other and they are perfectly decent good people. the thing is that they are not doing it with anyone available to satiate their needs, instead they are doing it because in their opinion its part and parcel of a loving relationship.

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Haawwww Haye. Judging from the title, I assumed this thread was about fighting (hatha payee)!

Availability of free time, money, space and carelessness of parents contributes to these activities. Most desi parents will keep a close eye on their daughters but will give free hand to their sons who may eventually find a willing partner somewhere. Also not marrying your children at right age is another contributor, with elder brother/sister in their 30s still not married, younger ones know their time is long long away.

The trouble is for someone (girl or guy) who has never been into such activities before and suddenly has to marry someone totally strange who might have been into these activities (may be because of the serious relationship/love with someone else). I don’t want myself in a situation like this but this thought is there, I don’t know what will be my reaction.

In the end honesty is the best policy, people should be honest about their past at least with their potential life partner. Having past relationships doesn’t necessarily make you a bad person but not telling your future husband/wife about them sure does. No one likes secrets in a relationship let alone marriage.

Another aspect: When economy goes down and living becomes tough, one particular business thrives which gives plenty of opportunities to men. That does not mean that women are angel but men can have fun by just paying and without getting into any sort of relationship.

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Who knows - its only your luck. Whether you get genuine OEM or a refurbished one.

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my mom — back in the day in pakistan (we are talking 50’s here) was a gyno, and she said that young girls were always coming in for abortions cuz they weren’t married … so, if it was that normal back then, I would assume it is still prevelant now too

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Me and my close gfs havent been in any such r/shps but i know many who have and they talk about it and are open about it. pakistani muslims and indian muslims out of pakistan/india. unfortunately, it is very difficult for some to control their desires. not holding any thing against them. virginity is very hard to find these days tbh.

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wow.. 1950s? :confused: i cant even imagine…

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i agree. so many youths are ok with making out etc. muslim youth. sex is THE extreme to them and many girls may stop there.

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yeah, I was shocked too.. these girls would come in and make my mom promise not to reveal their identities and the prupose of why they were there, for obvious reasons..

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Its the thrill. So HARD NOT TO. the things I gotta do to keep halaal. pffft

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Committing the sin is one kind of stupid ( remember Allah ta’ala knows ). Advertising it is another kind of stupid.

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I guess I should have clarified more, by decent I meant in religious sense. As in, they don’t put up a front of religiosity and then do drugs or have intimate relationships on the side. Of course, a person’s character and having sexual relations before marriage is not correlated. I know of people myself who are in sexual relationships before marriage, (Christian) but they are perfectly good human beings.

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So what you are suggesting is that one should hide it from his/her spouse?