Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
^ we have this exact model of bidet in our house
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
So what's the issue here? Some people think his image aren't being "liked" enough on their freaking Facebook pages? I hate when people turn their Facebook pages universe and life in itself. Please, get over it. Yes, I saw his tweet re-tweeted billion times, but as a Muslim I apologise that some desi uncles and aunties aren't liking his picture enough on Facebook and making memes on him. As a Muslim I also apologise the fact that I didn't even know he's an Ahamdi, and I only found out about this fact from when my fellow Muslims decided to put so much spotlight on his sectarian identity even when it wasn't even the issue.
Non Muslim don't even know what Ahamdi is, he is just a Muslim for them, but trust some petty Muslims to make a controversy even when there isn't one.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
Maybe some people can't be bothered to turn him into a personality cult because he's a US marine, and they don't give a sheet about his services in killing Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He may have made a good point and that's about it. Those who want to turn him into a hero, are free to do so, but please stop going around belittling and forcing Muslims to turn him into a superstar.
Normal Muslims are already under so much stress as it is, but Tom, Dick and Harry these days want to stand up and impose the the guilt and responsibility of entire universe on their shoulders.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
Circlejerk ruined.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
So what's the issue here? Some people think his image aren't being "liked" enough on their freaking Facebook pages? I hate when people turn their Facebook pages universe and life in itself. Please. Yes, I saw his tweet re-tweeted billion times, but as I Muslim apologise that some desi uncles and aunties aren't liking his picture enough on Facebook and making memes on him. AS a Muslim I also apologise the fact that I didn't even know he's an Ahamdi, and I only found out about this fact from when my fellow Muslims decided to put so much spotlight on his sectarian identity even when it wasn't even being discussed originally.
Non Muslim don't even know what Ahamdi really is, he is just a Muslim for them, but trust some petty Muslims to make a controversy even when there isn't one!
yes, the world only knows that he is a Muslim and his solid constructive response. What is issue here that he is an Ahmadi? His act attracted some attention at the time when many were just tweeting.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
yes, the world only knows that he is a Muslim and his solid constructive response. What is issue here that he is an Ahmadi? His act attracted some attention at the time when many were just tweeting.
Reza Aslan also posted a brilliantly clever and equally popular response to Donald Trump before well this guy, but frankly speaking I did not see my Facebook erupting with crazy praise parade and share & like orgy for Reza Aslan. So shall I go around asking why desi uncles and aunties on my Facebook page aren't going gaga over Reza Aslan, is it because he's Iranian? How dare they! Bloody Saudi suckers. Innit?
See how easy it is to create a controversy in this day and age.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
Reza Aslan also posted a brilliantly clever and equally popular response to Donald Trump before well this guy, but frankly speaking I did not see my Facebook erupting with crazy praise parade and share & like orgy for Reza Aslan. So shall I go around asking why desi uncles and aunties on my Facebook page aren't going gaga over Reza Aslan, is it because he's Iranian? How dare they! Bloody Saudi suckers. Innit?
See how easy it is to create a controversy in this day and age.
see Jolie it's not like every tom dick and harry propping up. It's about freedom of expression. These micro blogging sites provide excellent plateform to show our reservations. Some may find his act little bit indecent and may assume his that comparison a cheaper means to attract attention and limelight but you see a billion sharing reflects widespread anger for Mr. Trump's reactionary and irresponsible statement. As far as Iranian is concerned, thery may be different reasons from audience base to nationality.
I see Mr. Trump is creating controversy in the wake of Paris attacks. This may be an oppurtunistic political motive.
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I agree.
But what I’m trying to say that it doesn’t make sense for Muslims to create controversies and divisions amongst themselves over number of Facebook likes for Reza Aslan, Mehdi Hassan, Syeda Warsi and this Muslim Marine guy and everyone else gets - it is immature and makes no sense. If you like their message, go spread it in your own capacity - don’t create unnecessary drama and controversies by just assuming stuff and passing judgement why xyz isn’t as famous on Facebook as you think they should be. When you are dealing with such incredibly sensitive issues, avoid creating bone of contention . The world goes a lot beyond your personal Facebook pages. Just because on your Facebook timeline, someone isn’t famous by your standards, doesn’t mean they are not getting their due attention somewhere else.
On my timeline, I just noticed that Syeda Warsi’s message got 50 less likes than a tweet from Mehdi Hassan. Is it because she’s a woman? Pakistani? Has short hair, wear shalwar Kameez plus she’s a freaking Tory? Oh dear oh dear…#JusticeForSyedaWarsi](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=JusticeForSyedaWarsi)
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
@Jolie you made some genuine points. These days when whole media is projecting words like Islamists and associating them with extremism and more sadly with terrorism, why to highlight other issues like Ahmadi sect publicly. This will only add negativity. And there are lot of 21st century columbus active on fb who are quick to find irrelevent things and create side controversies.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
So back to my question...why isn't Muslim Marine being recognized by Muslims since he is in fact doing the Muslim community a service. Even if you consider him Ahmadi and non-Muslim he is still affiliating himself with Muslims and making an effort to clear their name.
This is US domestic Politics topic. Nothing to do with muslims at large. So address this question to US muslims only.
Rest of us don't give a hoot if he is the messiah of US muslims absolving them of any rightwing political accusations or saving them from any persecution or whatever.
The blame why he is not being supported by muslims in the US , for being Ahmadi or being a marine or whatever squarely falls on them - and no one else.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
Lets stop these absurd apples vs oranges comparisons. There is absolutely NO comparison between being in armed forces vs being a glamour model*. If one thinks that being in military is all about going to Iraq and killing muslims, they need to have their brains checked. There are variety of different roles one can be assigned in military, from being a medic to being in peace keeping or simply being a reserved.* Its very sad to see that some people feel more satisfied in criticizing Ahmadis than in joining together for defense of Islam. The greatest threat to Islam is from the western media who are hell bent on showing the worst of muslims, AND from the Saudi fitna. The Makkah council and Saudi clerics that you are so proudly mentioning have done more damage to Islam than anyone could ever do.
Well one goes to iraq and kills muslims, or he cooks for those killers, or gives medical aid to those killers,or being a reserve to reinforce when the killers get tired. When you are part of the armed forces , in whatever role, you get the praise and the blame on behalf of the whole military force. Can't really pick and choose can you?
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
So back to my question...why isn't Muslim Marine being recognized by Muslims since he is in fact doing the Muslim community a service. Even if you consider him Ahmadi and non-Muslim he is still affiliating himself with Muslims and making an effort to clear their name.
Hi Reha.
Once again I have no knowledge and no stance about who actually is muslim and who is not.
Specially when one is wanting to be one.
How ever I could give you one example of more extreme nature which to me seems like some what relevant.
Raza arsalan, is pretty famous in defending muslims and presenting islam, but in his book "zealot" he calls Jesus(as) as God.
So that reminded me of my Cousin who told me, why they can not take mental patient as witness, be cause, once they tried, after giving accurate account of incident, when mental patient was asked, "what were you doing when this was happening" he said "I was asleep the whole time"
Now we can use all the support from every one, but I don't know if you want to put some in driving seat who can say funny thing about basic of the belief. With all due respect ahmdis do have things which sound out of the place, comparing to generalized image/concept of islam.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
This is US domestic Politics topic. Nothing to do with muslims at large. So address this question to US muslims only.
Rest of us don't give a hoot if he is the messiah of US muslims absolving them of any rightwing political accusations or saving them from any persecution or whatever.
The blame why he is not being supported by muslims in the US , for being Ahmadi or being a marine or whatever squarely falls on them - and no one else.
Exactly why all "Muslims" are asked to give a damn about American domestic issues? Do Americans have any idea about European internal politics and famous internet rebuttals? Yes we know there's a lunatic running for their Presidential elections who says stupid things everyday - but are what are rest of the Muslims supposed to do and they have so many of their own local issues to worry about? To me this is very much a local American issue - as a British Muslim, I am sorry for not following all cyber fights on internet related to Donald Trump.
For the record, this marine guy was featured in BBC, and there are so many people who followed his tweet and posted their ID cards - yes also covered by BBC news and it is on twitter for everyone to see. But let's throw a tantrum that why desi uncles and aunties aren't going gaga about him in their Facebook timeline and blame all "Maawzlumzzzz" for hating Ahamdis - forget the fact an average non desi Muslim doesn't even know who Ahamdis are since it is predominately a South Asian specific sect just like an average Desi Muslim don't know how Turkish Alevis differ from mainstream Shia beliefs. Pretty insulting for Desi American Muslims to pass such judgments about their non desi fellow Muslims.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
Exactly why all "Muslims" are asked to give a damn about American domestic issues? Do Americans have any idea about European internal politics and famous internet rebuttals? Yes we know there's a lunatic running for their Presidential elections who says stupid things everyday - but are what are rest of the Muslims supposed to do and they have so many of their own local issues to worry about? To me this is very much a local American issue - as a British Muslim, I am sorry for not following all cyber fights on internet related to Donald Trump.
For the record, this marine guy was featured in BBC, and there are so many people who followed his tweet and posted their ID cards - yes also covered by BBC news and it is on twitter for everyone to see. But let's throw a tantrum that why desi uncles and aunties aren't going gaga about him in their Facebook timeline and blame all "Maawzlumzzzz" for hating Ahamdis - forget the fact an average non desi Muslim doesn't even know who Ahamdis are since it is predominately a South Asian specific sect just like an average Desi Muslim don't know how Turkish Alevis differ from mainstream Shia beliefs. Pretty insulting for Desi American Muslims to pass such judgments about their non desi fellow Muslims.
IT IS AN AMERICAN ISSUE.
If you ACTUALLY read the original post - no one asked a Brit to come in here and respond. No one even asked a Pakistani to come and respond.
If it doesn't apply to you - don't respond.
Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
In Britain - journalist Mehdi Hassan had a heated exchange with British Minister Anna Soubry on Question Time over Paris attacks. That little clip went absolutely viral here. The guy got some cheers, but the Muslims all around the world who didn't know what the hell just happened, didn't share the clip or didn't say well done to Mehdi be put on the spot for "not recognising" Mehdi Hassan just because he's xyz - should we make all Muslim feel guilty and accuse of them bigotry and hate for not sharing clips?
Should I expect Muslims living in Pakistan or in Spain to know what the hell just happened on Question Time and how much should they praise Mehdi Hassan? Maybe some people really don't take Twitter and Facebook seriously than life itself.
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IT IS AN AMERICAN ISSUE.
If you ACTUALLY read the original post - no one asked a Brit to come in here and respond. No one even asked a Pakistani to come and respond.
If it doesn't apply to you - don't respond.
Oopsie Daisy....
I beg your pardon then - no where in your actual post, I saw the word American Muslim community mentioned but I did see you mention Muslims quite a lot throughout the thread, so I thought you meant all Muslim or Western Muslims at least - as opposed to just the ones living in America who may don't like Ahamdis.
Carry on in that case.
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You do actually 
Stop being in denial.
Actually everyone does.. no biggie if they dont accept 
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Re: Muslim Marine - anyone following him?
Did I say the guy got enough response from American Muslim community to get the attention of the BBC?
I'd say he's a winner. Job done. Two cheers for him.