Re: Muslim attitudes towards rape [split: Muslim Women Gang Raped.. ]
Amused by your post that you still have not understood that Islamic rules and laws ARE there to protect humanity.
When Islam came, the liitle girls were stopped from buried alive!
When islam came women were given the knowledge of modesty instead of dancing nude in Kaaba.
When islam came, it made women like Fatima (RAA) and Ayesha (RAA) etc. respectable women of society who later taught others and answered questions.
When Islam came into many areas of world, it abolishes inhuman treatments against women by locals and when Islamic people wanted to leave the area, they were begged by local good men and women to stay.
Islam gave freedom to men and women long before current days world provided. Only few years ago women got the voting right in western world while the prophet (SAW) and his followers (Umer RAA) created and amended rules and laws based on the advice their women gave!
Women have been burned and raped in the name of religion other than Islam.
If you find any submissive woman in uneducated area then its not the fault of Islam. Islam condemns women oppression. It gives woman the right to choose her life partner and any marriage without her consent is not a marriage. Now do not try to bring age in to consenting you already have been given answer for that.
The prophet SAW himself has dissolved the marriage of a woman who complained that her marriage was against her will and she did not like her partner.
Let me tell you, there are countless marriages in islamic and non-islamic societies which are based on stronger reasons than liking the partner (lust/love). Education, money, power, social equality and religious reasons are very common reasons for marriage around the world and are well accepted even by you! (I never saw any post from you against these reasons for marriage)
So called 'islamic countries' you keep giving examples have nothing to do with Islam. Islam is now a days present among the human beings and not as the law of a country.
Lastly, Your emotional ranting has no value whatsoever infront of centuries of goodness Islam brought to mankind.
Preach it to the muslim man who subjugates , honor kills , suppresses and islamic countries like saudi arabia who live by the Quran --- the most pious of the muslims committ heinous mysogynistic actions against women.
Hahahahahahaha, my emotional ranting???? joke
so don't refer to my emotional 'ranting' as if you can't even begin to understand what i am argueing for. It is so much easier for you to rehash and repeat dogma , do you deny the attrocities happen and that people have the right like me to loudly stand up and voice against it and to cast light on it. that's all everyone does is repeat dogma of quran while trying to ingnore the crap women put up in islamic communities. ----centuries of goodness??????? a joke right? tell it to the somali woman in somalia today ......... tell it to the muslim woman and child -the many who have suffered the goodness of beatings for supposedly disobedience, disrespect for their own free will , tell it to the muslim wife as they are cast aside for another woman, tell it to the little girl of child rape when eight year old girls get married off to old men , --oh the goodness that removes human rights, the goodness that is saudi arabia and its wahabist islamist idealogy, yes tell it it to the 80 to 90 percent of women suffering or have experienced domestic violence in pakistan at the hands of man. seems all the goodness has gone to aid the muslim man's insecurities, lack of confidence and lack of manly spine in treating a woman as a total equal without indoctrinating that it's allah's will woman be obedient to man.
Islam preaches all this good stuff , well why do women under islam suffer so greatly , Is it only culture. or does one aid the other in order to maintain patriarchal domination.
yes, i will rant. I will be emotional. cause how can you not be emotional when you see some of the horrendous crap done to women in the name of islam. tackle those issues instead of reciting indoctrination. Expand your social awareness . read about violence against women in islam . And then if you have a daughter fight against the violence and ill treatment of children otherwise you might just find your child married to a troglodyte islamofascist of lives in 1400 years old mentality instead of the 21st century where human rights and child rights are to be promoted and fought for over any relgious dogma witten by some man .
how about violence against women in general? how about violence against children and child labor in general with no religious association, forget judeo-christian-islamic background of woman or child. just go put some dollars toward establishing a safe house for the victimes of domestic violence.
Be honest and realize you are aware heinous practices occur in the name of allah and islam by men. then go out and preach against these acts to men and make sure men in your community are not allowed to get away with it, cultural or religion it does not matter. Instead of deflecting the problems which are inherit by obfuscating the obvious throught repetative indoctrination all is good within islam. As the world sees, it is obviously not.
Violence against women, violence against children, trafficking of women and children, sexual abuse of women and children , does not matter which faith the person lives under if the godly perpertrators continue the practice .
A woman is equal to man, and derserves education before marriage institution. A woman has free will, a woman must be nourished like a boy child to have confidence , to be strong , to posess a spine and to grow up to the self reliant and self assured without having to get married because otherwise she is a 'nothing' and her livelyhood depends on a husband. Christian beliefs in the west supported much which was mysogynistic against the women , they supported the cultural practice of mysogyny and cultural practice relied on biblical verses. Well , the suffragetes changed all that , and from the day the woman got the right to vote in the west, they progressed forward and made domestic violence a legal crime and demanded fair rights to education and fair rights to career pursuits and opportunity. It is beginning now within Islam --- call it islamic suffragetes.
Just to let you know, there are many more of use growing up each and every day with knowledge that we can be more then what a man tells us to be.