AQ bro! Fear Allah and quit posting single ayah (yet again). Make an argument based on your own judgment as you are not an ordained Aalim.
All I did was post an ayah and later SHOWED you another ayah in context... you also posted only two ayah in providing the context but when I posted a followup on ayah, all you came up to say this?
Bhai jaan... LOOK BACK at my first response where I BOLDED the quote and I quote it again:
two great countries can normalise diplomatic relations and work together to fight the menace of terrorism that has engulfed their nations.
The above statement justifies the STATE TERRORISM of Isreal against Palestinian Muslims and the ayah reflects that working together will only mean that you FOLLOW Israel (Jews) in implementing Islam HOW THEY WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO.
Based on bro Tegs suggestion, I'll not get involved in this mud slinging while dragging in Quran and Allah's name.
Quran is BOOK of Guidance. I only posted an ayah and everyone is getting worked up. Why do not we just stop getting answers from Quran? Posting an ayah from Quran has become mud slinging now where as calling names like DOG and MORON is not? Great!
I advise you do the same. Please!
Same to you :)
Did Prophet PBUH stop people from trading with Jews in his time? Thanks.
Did Jews oppress muslims during his time? Do you know what happened to Banu Quraidha and Banu Nazeer later?
What about when other Muslim countries oppress other fellow Muslims?
They should be dealt accorddingly and with justice
Should we make a similar stand or does it only apply to non-muslims?
A similar stand is the only justice I see :)
Or when other countries oppress other people who are not muslims like Sudan in Darfur
Yes..
What about Arab countries where they oppress Pakistani, Muslim and every other nationality/religions?
That's right. I bet people would not want Pakistan to stop trading with these nations. But they want Pakistan to stop having any ties with the fellow victim of terrorism - Israel.
^^ Aalsi, Israel is a victim of terrorism because it occupies land of the Palestinians
If the Israeli leaders dismantle the settlements and withdraw to the 1967 borders, terrorism for the most part will cease with occasional flare ups such as when Israel withdrew from Lebanon in 2000
Although I am against the way Palestinians fight Israel, I do understand it
i hope everyone understands that for the perfect win against islamism/political islam, pakistan can not be allowed to exist as an independent country, pakistan can not be allowed to have a nuclear weapons or any other weapons program.
recognising israel without settlement of outstanding issues to a suitable conclusion is recognising all fault lies with ourselves. therefore if this happens its only right that we give up pakistan army assets.
so if anyone does cut back the rights of muslims to an oppinion, then lets just take them rights right back to a fully oppressed level for added security
Did Jews oppress muslims during his time? Do you know what happened to Banu Quraidha and Banu Nazeer later?
Please, just answer my question, did Prophet PBUH tell Muslims to stop trading with Jews? Were Muslims not trading when Prophet PBUH left the world? What about time of Khulafa-Rashideen? Thanks.
i hope everyone understands that for the perfect win against islamism/political islam, pakistan can not be allowed to exist as an independent country, pakistan can not be allowed to have a nuclear weapons or any other weapons program.
recognising israel without settlement of outstanding issues to a suitable conclusion is recognising all fault lies with ourselves. therefore if this happens its only right that we give up pakistan army assets.
so if anyone does cut back the rights of muslims to an oppinion, then lets just take them rights right back to a fully oppressed level for added security
Pakistan is suppose to a secular country. That is what our founded what Pakistan to be.
I have explained it quite well Alhamdo Lillah. Guidance is not in my hand so I would not shove it down to anyone's throat :)
Guidance comes to those who don't read Quran out of context. This was precisely the fault with some Jews and Christians. They would read holy books out of context and then start Jihad. Now some Muslims are doing exactly the same.
Another "dark" case of misquoting Quran comes when you put 2:114 in this thread. I'd have let go, had you not posted the gem of your post again.
2:114 is about those who stop people from going to mosque. This is totally applicable wahabis who bomb Shia mosques (Iraq, Pakistan) or simply lockup Shia mosques (Saudi). But you won't understand. Summun bukmun is the case here. Sadly!
Appart from these quran versis discussion.
I myself believe this guys has been so anti Pakistani in past and I hardly think he has changed in future. So whats the purpose meeting him? He should go meet Olmert instead and discuss issues like Palestine and cross border terrorism.
**Al Qurano Yofassirahu baa’dahu baa’ad **that is Part of Quran explains part of it.
Just because you are claiming this statement does not make it the absolute criteria though it is imperative to have things in context; however, quran tells us in the beginning of surah baqarah that (Quran is) the Guidance to Pious (Muttaqeen).
On the other hand, Quran itself tells us that Scholars of Jews and Chrisitians used to change the words of God .. PLUS look at the history of Jews, they refused to do Jihad when Moses:as: asked them to do.
I agree
It is also applicable to Israel not letting Muslims going to Bait-ul-Maqdas …
No, Islam doesn't like Jews or Christians, the Quran commands Muslims not to take them as their leaders or providers. If you don't like that, you should leave Islam.
