MQM demands Karachi to be handed over to the Army

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You mean "Muhajir Republican Army" armed by Babur Ghauri, stealing 19000 containers of arms and distributed to above "maut ke saudagar" will play havoc with people of Karachi. Shame on you being a supporter of real terrorists of Pakistan.

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But there is difference between MQM and Urdu speaking people. Not all Urdu speaking people are in favor of mqm or "Muhajir Republican Army". Iraq ke Hussain ka dharhal takhta howa, ek aor Hussain uth karha ho gaya hay, terrorists squad ko "Muhajir Republican Army" bananay wala. All things equal run elections in neutral and peaceful environment and see how many votes mqm gets in Karachi.

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Sachay how mane more blood you PPP guys wnat to keep that seat Liyari? You lose Malir in Karachi and dozens in all over pakistan, you guys are only exsist in rurual Sindh. btw you know how much difference of seats in Sindh assembly betweeen PPP and MQM?

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Agreed. You rule cities and destroyed them particularly Karachi. Why you guys want army in Karachi then? Some one rightly said "Aa bail Mujhe mar". Don,t cry when really army cracked down on terrorists safe havens all over Karachi including 90 and people like Babur Ghauri, who stole 19000 containers full of arms and distributed to MQM dominated areas.

You tell me how many seats PPP and MQM won in Sindh Assembly? PPP did not need MQM support to form Sindh Government, even then as a goodwill gesture and Zardari's reconciliation mantra, offered ministries to become part of the government as previously, though I would never approve that stupid reconciliation mantra for terrorists. For LG differences PPP even offer to change the act if be needed. Aakhir aap logon ko taklif kya hay? Why MQM then back stabbed PPP? Is it its natural instinct of back stabbing or there is something else? Answer me.

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then you are probably okay with Taliban taking over?

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you mean PTI? hell NO

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No, I mean religious brothers of MQM, the real terrorists. And why not? You just said government is a joke so then you should be okay with anyone who is causing havoc in country like MQM.

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I said Sindh Govt
and btw who are the Religous of bros of MQM?

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U mean big problem like mqm?

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more bigger man

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you guys never accepr Mohajis as Sindhi

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Did you ever accept that you are part of Sindh? Here I am talking about MQM and his cronies.

Do you have any idea how many marriages have taken place between Sindhi and non-Sindhis since partition? Get a life man.

Ishratul Ebad is Sindh's governor and he is ruling since last more than five years. How in the hell you say Sindhi rule? MQM was part of same Sindhi rule in last five years. ab kya taklif hogai pichwarhay main? Read my post #106 regarding back stabbing, then respond.

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I assure you brother I don't want any khal or siri from mqm's cut.

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Good article.

Consensus alone won?t work - DAWN.COM

**THE government’s statement on convening a special cabinet meeting soon to evolve a ‘consensus’ on law and order in Karachi hasn’t come a day too early.

This quest for consensus is a positive change in the thinking of the PML-N.** **The last it ruled its propensity to ride roughshod seemed endless and many attribute the premature end of its tenure as much to its own attitude as to a renegade general’s self-preservation instinct.

But the desire for consensus should not translate into inaction if unanimity isn’t forthcoming. **Perfunctory consensus won’t be able to withstand the slightest of strains anyway. Also, before any operation, ‘targeted’ or broad brush, is initiated there is a need for institutional and legislative reform.

In all these areas leadership is needed. Unlike its predecessor, the PML-N government has a sound majority in the National Assembly and doesn’t need the support of unreasonably demanding and often fickle allies to stay in power. It needs to demonstrate this strength.

So far whatever Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan has said makes sense (even though one would be grateful if he were to buy into the virtue of brevity). That there is many a slip between the cup and the lip is equally true.

One would like to see urgent steps in the short term. Agreement should be secured to post the best police officers in the country to Karachi, if they aren’t already there and all political parties made to pledge non-interference in their day-to-day working.

**To make sure that all parties continue to remain confident of an even-handed enforcement of the law, a body on the lines of the UK’s Police Complaints Commission should be set up and empowered to look at complaints and order remedial measures.
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The minister, sources say, has already been advised on the need for such a body and referred to it in his news conference where he announced the convening of the special cabinet meeting next week to be chaired by the prime minister.

These two decisions, if implemented, can lead to a visible improvement in the situation. All of this won’t be easy and will take time to bed down. Nonetheless, it’ll be a start. In any case, there should be no underestimating the challenges. Karachi is a right royal mess. It’ll need unprecedented political will to even think of sorting it out. The minister seems to lay store by the reports of intelligence agencies he is receiving. He should also be aware that there are some people in these agencies who have their own agenda.

For example, look at a prime intelligence agency and what its track record in Karachi shows. Wary of MQM’s dominant firepower, rather than use lawful means to counter it, the agency allegedly started backing gangland figures from another ethnic group of the erstwhile People’s Amn Committee.

The resultant mess alone would account for a fair proportion of killings in the city as both the armed groups vie for dominance and expanding their areas of influence. In what is seen as a zero-sum game, the PPP is also taking sides now to the chagrin of the MQM.

**Armed thugs will be armed thugs. The political umbrella enables them to do much more than ‘enforce’ party policy or take on political opponents. Many of them freelance. A life of crime, including extortion and murder, brings them riches beyond their dreams.

This then is among the ‘gifts’ of the agencies to Karachi. One must take with a pinch of salt whatever the agencies say. Some of these agencies have brought Balochistan to the brink of a disaster and have allegedly ‘outsourced’ to similar criminal gangs the task of enforcing the ‘state’s writ’.
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The suspected involvement of naval intelligence personnel in a kidnap for ransom incident earlier this week showed proceeds of crime in the lawless metropolis are seen as easy money that is there for the taking. So, even the holiest of the holy enforcement machines is not immune from its lure.

Then there was an ‘extortion’ demand call to a resourceful businessman traced to personnel of an elite crime fighting unit of the Karachi police whose head was among a bunch of officers recently demoted on Supreme Court orders.

The acquittal of those, including a retired army major, charged with the kidnapping of film tycoon Satish Anand, is a case in point for the need to bring changes to the law. This case is just one example. There are dozens of others involving sectarian, ethnic murderers where complainants, witnesses, even judges have been intimidated. The government will also need to familiarise itself with the concept of witness protection, of video-link and behind the screen testimony, and with the need to keep judges’ and the prosecutors’ identity secret.

Not just that, it’ll be well-advised to inform itself from the experience of, for example, the Italian judiciary and balaclava-protected elite crime fighting units which battled well-entrenched mafia figures and succeeded in getting many, many convictions. It won’t be easy but can be done.

**Of course the most important journey will have to be undertaken by all parties with a presence in Karachi to realise that violence begets more violence. Nobody will ever monopolise the tools of terror entirely. We are currently witnessing this phenomenon in the metropolis.
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**Unless these parties, which are quick to charge each other with undemocratic conduct at the drop of a hat, truly embrace democratic ways and means to achieving their legitimate political goals, to securing the rights of their enormous vote banks, any positive change may remain a pipe dream.
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**And when (as an eternal optimist I won’t say if) all these wishes have been granted and a semblance of peace and order restored, there will still be the existential threat posed by the Taliban and their hate-filled takfiri allies in Karachi as in the rest of the country.
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**That’s when the real fight for the country’s soul will begin.
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The writer is a former editor of Dawn.

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Rangers, police to launch operation in Karachi: Sethi - thenews.com.pk

LAHORE: Noted analyst Najam Sethi said the government had decided to launch an operation by rangers and police in Karachi and it would be backed by Sindh Chief Minister Qaim Ali Shah and Interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan.

Talking in Geo News programme “Aapas Ki Baat” on Friday, he said the PPP and the MQM had strained relations over the LG Ordinance. “Now the PPP does not need the MQM as it is in majority in the Sindh Assembly and can keep its government intact without MQM’s support. Mostly, terrorism in Karachi is a result of clashes between militant wings of the MQM and the ANP. Sectarian elements benefit from the situation and the PPP has also a militant wing which is in minority. The PPP is not in power in the Centre, so it can adopt a hard line on terrorism or the gang war as it does not need the support of the MQM or the ANP. A full-fledged operation has not been launched and only few arrests were made, but the MQM has already started feeling the heat,” he added.

He said, “In the situation, the MQM warned the PPP of calling in the army. The MQM demand is only to counter pressure, otherwise, it fully understood that a military operation would hurt it badly. According to sources, the prime minister and the interior minister have decided to launch an operation in Karachi. All stakeholders have been informed about it to bring them on the same page. It will hurt the MQM, so the prime minister will visit Karachi and reach an agreement. The ANP will also have to be operation upon. If Nawaz Sharif fails to check law and order, his government may not last a year. People want army in Karachi now and they will seek a military operation in the whole of Pakistan after some time on the pretext that all governments have failed. However, the prime minister will not want the moment to arrive.”

Speaking on the contempt case against Imran Khan, Sethi said the court made a good decision as Imran had already apologised twice. “However, Imran is a national leader and he should not be so temperamental.” On Akram Durrani’s appointment as federal minister, Sethi said the love affair of the PML-N and the JUI-F would continue. “Maulana Fazlur Rehman has to play a big role in international and Nawaz Sharif’s interests. Nawaz Sharif will provide a chance to Maulana Fazlur Rehman to initiate dialogue with a Taliban group, so that he could say he had attempted but the Taliban rejected talks,” he added.

On a report in the daily Jang, he said he was not shocked as reports of Al-Qaeda infiltration into Naval Intelligence had appeared several times. “Journalist Saleem Shahzad, who was killed, wrote in his book that the Al-Qaeda ideology had infiltrated Naval Intelligence. “However, only individuals are involved in it but the facts should not be concealed and strict action should be taken against the accused under the Army and Navy Acts,” he added.

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Nusrat javed’s article. He believes that Ch Nisar tried to save MQM during the past two tenures of Nawaz sharif. But MQMs leaders have been criticising him. According to him MQM wanted the Sindh government to fail (and sacked for incompetence as the consequence). Has the party miscalculated the consequences of what’s happening in Karachi for the past five years?

I believe if the city has to be cleansed, operation should be across the board otherwise no operation at all. Biased operations would only deteriorate the law and order situation.

ہاتھ سے لگائی گرہوں کا دانتوں سے کھولنا – ایکسپریسس اردو](http://www.express.pk/story/169119/)

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TTP, ST, LeJ, LeT.

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Best of luck to the PM as Karachi could make or break his government.

PM expected to approve joint grand targeted operation in Karachi - DAWN.COM

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Agr aisa huwa tou MQM kidhr bhag k jaegi ? ;)

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from this news

shows how [non]serious we have been to solve our plight