Mob loots, torches Christian colony in Lahore

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Yun To Syed Bhi Ho, Mirza Bhi Ho, Afghan Bhi Ho
Tum Sabhi Kuch Ho, Batao To Musalman Bhi Ho!

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Good point..

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You need a little education in this regard.

The blasphemy 'concept 'is not for God's protection. It is for protecting the 'sentiments' of other human being. Regardless of any religion.

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Well those human beings are behaving like animals now.

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Unfortunately yes.

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blasphemy etc is like an immune system for religions. if everyone can openly question blind faith, these institutions will wither and crumble in a matter of weeks. but with the concept of blasphemy, you can't ask questions that have IQ=0 answers, or the mob will come.

and diwana makes a good point - these guys are just like hindu scum. except the hindu rioters don't have any legal backing of the constitution.

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Not true. As I have mentioned, blasphemy law is in full effect in India.

People have to flee India to save themselves.

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well said and i add one more action item to the "to-do list".... build their homes and buy all the furniture.

put a fund and ask Pakistanis to donate and then let Pakistanis build it...lets see how much money Pakistanis donate..keep a track and make announcements

i want and i demand all prominent politicians and rich prominent business families of lahore as well as prominent people from different fields to go to the construction site and spend some time there...they shd actually put their hands into the construction dirt ...and i am not talking about NGOs..i am talking about cricketeers, actors, businness people, writers, columnits, anchors, and religious leaders..all to go there.

only then i will believe that we have sane people in our society as well....just condemning is not enough..especially that stupid slogan "islam is religion of peace and whoever did that is not a Muslim" oh bhai hamay pata ha islam is religion of peace... lol....but if majority of terrorist/violence acts across the globe are conducted by muslims, who cares about that slogan...we need to fix the problem to gain credibility.

just imagine if orthodox Christians were creating havoc across the globe killing muslims and Christians kept yelling "Christianity is religion of peace" what would be our reaction?

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Article 295 and 295 A states

  1. Injuring or defiling place of worship, with intent to insult the religion of any class
    295-A. Deliberate and malicious acts intended to outrage religious feelings of any class by insulting Its religion or religious beliefs

http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/3/4/8/3/7/6/i/1/4/3/o/64820_10151343420218301_1130106288_n.jpg

will there be a case against them under 295??

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There is no need to exaggerate.

A whole lot of criminal acts are done by those who don't follow Islam.

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Masha’Allah

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Yes. If you hurt my 'sentiments', you should be jailed for it or perhaps killed for it. But wait, if I am drunk, I might burn your whole village.

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i am not talking about criminal acts... Don't play down the issue

i am referring to terrorist acts plus violence against minorities...and yes other communities are doing it as well and they are equally condemnable but those are more of local isolated issue but in the muslim world there is a global terrorist movement led by al qaida which has many many religious offshoots in many Muslims countries...it is led, nurtured, and promoted by muslims....if you dont believe it, fine... good for you....

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says who? Iraq and Afghanistan is occupied by US forces are they not planting the bombs ? if not where is your proof? to blame muslims wholesale for terrorism around the world is ignorant.

As for Christians being attacked this is a disgusting act and shame on the face of the people who did it. The government failed again they have no control of the country it no surprise they cannot prevent attacks on minorities.

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[quote="diwana, post:13, topic:279291"]

Unfortunately yes.

/QUOTE]

You hurt my sentiments. Do i need to burn your house to show my anger? Oh right ..pakistan has a law for that.

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and majority of people in this world don't exactly love US...or do they? but that is state terrorism

we are talking about "organized religion based terrorism" on a global basis.....as an ideology, as a phenomenon , as a movement

and that movement is being nurtured and led by Muslim groups and organizations...

accept it..that is the first step towards a solution

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Then you will be wrong and a criminal.

You call everything terror, if I call every terror a crime so what's the big deal?

The topic of this thread is also an isolated condemnable act.

*Does not mean every one in Lahore or Pakistan approves it or commits these crimes. *

Your cheap shot at Islam is uncalled for.

The law does not ask people to go burn anyone's belongings.

And India has the same law, but those accused are forced to live in exile. You selectively missed earlier posts.

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I could not agree more.

I don't know who these people are try to protect or save?

In fact I do know, they are saving them selves. What if some one tells them,
Quran don't need you to protect it. It is what it was all that time.

But then it will be start of bigger thought exercise, as what is it in quran which don't get hurt even when its burnt.

and I don't think guy dragging washing-machine want to do that.

I guess all of the mob is trying to score quick brownie points with God.

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i am not taking shot at anything.....dont try to spread venom against me.....i am noticing that you are trying to emotionalize posters against me by bringing religion ...your cheap antics....

this case is not an isolated incidence...whole pakistan is burning by violence against minorities....including Christians...very 6 month they are killed on the name of blasphemy...and u call it an isolated one time incidence?

anyway, in case if you missed my earlier post:

"we are talking about "organized religion based terrorism" on a global basis.....as an ideology, as a phenomenon , as a movement

and that movement is being nurtured and led by Muslim groups and organizations...

accept it..that is the first step towards a solution "

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ladies and gentlemen..read this article and mourn on your luck…

thanks to years of state sponsored religious propaganda and hatred filled syllabus, majority of masses in pakistan have unfortunately turned into animals, who can be emotionalized by anything…our mosques are nothing but filthy houses of hatred and sectarianism…the civilized world is looking at us in horror…but they dont know how to stop this madness in pakistan…this is what religious madness does to a country…pakistan is a living example! think abt the solution…how can pakistan become a normal civilized country? do we need more religion and Islamic sharia in pakistan?

anyway read these stories below…these poor people have so many memories with these homes…and stupid shabaz sharif thinks he can build these homes…can he rebuild memories?

Cries for a lost home(land) | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

*Cries for a lost home(land)

                                               From the Newspaper | [Xari Jalil](http://dawn.com/author/xarijalil/)                    | 19 hours ago                
             
                                    **LAHORE, March 9: “Burn us too!” wails a woman, her hands repeatedly hitting her head. “Did they leave us alive to see all this?”**  Her tears stream down her face and her nose is red and swollen. In one  of the doorways, a mother and son stand hugging each other and weeping  as if someone has just died. “They took everything from us…” sobs the  boy. “Those robbers took everything we had worked hard for.”

Not many of the homes in Joseph Colony are left intact. They are now skeletons, empty shells, housing nothing but ashes.
The Christian families, who had been shifted one night ago for ‘safety’ as the police told them, only came the next day to find out that all of their belongings and all their assets – in fact everything that they owned had been ransacked, robbed, and the rest mercilessly burnt to the ground. All because one man from among them was accused under Section 295-C: an accusation which has not been proved.
While the police remain guarded, only carefully revealing any kind of information to the media, and the Muslim community prefer to remain mute, the Christians are ablaze with fury.
“There are about 250 families in total,” says Aslam Masih. “Each family has faced a loss of about Rs0.8 to Rs0.9 million, and this figure is the lowest I am talking about.”
Mariam Bibi stands in her doorway peering inside. She cannot step inside because the ashes are still white and burning, and acrid, black smoke fumes out angrily.
“We saved every penny to collect for my daughter’s dowry,” she sobs. “In one night they have left us homeless and out on the streets. Where will we sleep now?”

A teenaged boy says the mob comprising hundreds were ruthless. “It was all preplanned. They had planned this attack on us from Wednesday thanks to a brawl between Saawan, and Imran. But they targeted us three days later, and pretended it was about blasphemy. They even threw our goats into the fire alive. They burnt our motorcycles. They stole whatever they could.”
“For the families their assets were their children,” says Gulnar Gill, executive director of Canadian Human Rights International Organization. “They simply fled for safety when the police told them to otherwise maybe lives would have been at stake too.”

An old man crying over the pages of a burnt Bible, murmurs through tears: Our Gods are not different….we were always brothers…why do they do this to us?”
Joseph Francis from CLAAS (Centre for Legal Aid Assistance based in UK) says that the whole issue is a farce. There was never any religion involved.
“If the truth is really understood this was just a trivial drunken fight,” he says. Despite this we handed over Saawan to the police but they still did this.”

Francis says if the mob was so angry about a blasphemy accused, how was it that they waited three whole days?
But James Rehmat, a Christian worker, openly accuses the PML-N government of actually patronising the mob. “Some top leaders of the N-League, including Malik Riaz (local MNA) led the procession. On Friday night, another local PML-N leader came and had banners put up against blasphemy,” he points upwards to freshly put up cloth banners saying ‘The penalty of blasphemy is only beheading’.

“But we don’t see any politicians or other higher ups in this area after this incident although a whole day has passed by. How is it that all these incidents against us happened during the Shahbaz-Nawaz government?”
This relays a reaction to the angry victims and they suddenly break out chanting slogans against the government, women beating their chests in anguish.

Bishop Akram Gill, of the Emmanuel Church also stands and makes an official complaint against the Sharif-led Punjab government. “The Shantinagar and Gojra incidents too happened during the Sharifs’ rule. How is it that when they are not in power, we tend to live more peacefully? The time has come that Christians must ask themselves:
Can we live in Pakistan any longer? We request the UNO to give us refuge because we cannot find any justice in this country.”

Though Akram Gill thanks the police for controlling the situation, Sohail Johnson from the Sharing Life Ministry Pakistan has to stop himself from swearing at the police authorities. “They are lying!” he shouts. “They have done nothing to save us. They stood on one side while our Bible was burnt. Their excuse was there were too many terrorist outfits present and that the police was weak.”

Meanwhile many are of the opinion that the whole scenario was a game plan by the nearby iron factory owners who they believe are patronised by a powerful ruling family member. The attackers, they say, were factory workers, and the agenda was to grab the land the Christians had their houses on. And when Saawan had already been arrested why was their need of violence?*