light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

[Aceones]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

but again we are focusing on differentiating......that was necessary when the new method being prescribed was a change to the way we practised the faith.

in this case we are not changing the faith....we have already agreed upon following the rules laid out in our deen that differentiate us......we have already done the salats and the duas.

please help me understand. it sounds to me like you are saying that we should do nothing except that which has been prescribed even if it does not interfere with our faith.

is this correct? if yes, then please suggest a practical alternative for those that live in a community where they are either a minority or where interaction with people from various faiths is a daily way of life.....

about your question... do you really think being a minority and interacting with various faiths stops one from practicing his own faith? if yes then its alarming (at least for me) and we need to change it.

and new practices in religion do not make their room in a day or month or even year, it takes several years of practices like this.

[P_G]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

but again we are focusing on differentiating......that was necessary when the new method being prescribed was a change to the way we practised the faith.

in this case we are not changing the faith....we have already agreed upon following the rules laid out in our deen that differentiate us......we have already done the salats and the duas.

please help me understand. it sounds to me like you are saying that we should do nothing except that which has been prescribed even if it does not interfere with our faith.

is this correct? if yes, then please suggest a practical alternative for those that live in a community where they are either a minority or where interaction with people from various faiths is a daily way of life.....

mainy yahan khi main jo tareeqa daikha main woh app ko batatee hoon

sub log ik jagah per kharay hain or sub nay apne apne candel light ik jagah rakhee hain ..or sub ki yeh koshish hay woh bujhay nahi ..bakee sath sath hansee mazak bolna jaree tha ,.... ik jagah road per chand teen ager ka group candels samnay rakh ker naaray laga rahe thay

app mujhay sirf yeh samjhain k UNITY dikhanay k ley ik jagah sub jamma hon yeh to samjh aagya ...naaray laga lain woh bhi theek hay ,,,banners pakar lain ..long march ker lain ..media is ki coverage ker lay to yeh sub to tub bhi hasil ho gaya tha

yeh khas tareeqa k is sub k sath candel jaalain to yeh ik cheez kuffaar say mushabyhat hay ....app sirf is cheez ko hata dain....? sirf is neyat say k hamaray Nabi nay bhi mushabayhat pasand nahi ki...

app ka jama hona ap kay banners dosree communites nahi samjh saktee hain ?

baqee raha afsos ka khaas izhaar to us k ley app apay muslman behan bhaioon k ley dua he kejeye kion k hamara or mutaasira khandan ka ise per iman hay k Duaao say sabar ata hay or sabar dukh kam kerta hay ..or yaqeenan app ka is waqt un families k ley yeh ammal kaafe hai

or agar app ko yeh lagta hay k jahan app log rehtay hain wahan vigil candel light k ilawa koi tareeqa app ka maqasid k husool ka zariya nahi ban sakta ro phir app apnay mulk k scholers ki raaye zaroor lay lain ..k behrhal app is practice ko ik acha kam samjh ker hee kerain gee..

[P_G]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

Zaban pe.

Its a universal language. Just like tou dont say that I will not use english words, kyun ke ye kuffar kee language hai, similarly lightning candles is a universal symbol for reaction against suffering

...app is reaction ko use kerain jub app ko dosre communities say aytjaaj kerna ho ...lakin behrhal app log jin mumalik main rehtay hain main nahi jantee k wahan app logoon ki kia zarooriyat hain ...meainay pakistan maain is naye tareeqay per sawal kia tha

baqee languages ka seekhna ANbia say sabit hay is ley is main koi kaafir muslman ki behas nahi

[TLK]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

Achcha baba meri maafi. Aendaa aap se behes nahi karoon ga. murgha bun'nay wala pose

[P_G]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

Achcha baba meri maafi. Aendaa aap se behes nahi karoon ga. murgha bun'nay wala pose

ik chota sa masoom sa sawal hai ..app ay candel jalayeen thee ?

[TLK]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

ik chota sa masoom sa sawal hai ..app ay candel jalayeen thee ?

Yes. Jab aakhri martabla humaaray yahaan light gayee thee, tub jalaayeen thee.

[P_G]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

^ good, ab emergency light khareed lain...kuch taraqee ker lain..

[TLK]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

^ good, ab emergency light khareed lain...kuch taraqee ker lain..

Toba tobaa ,, emergency light tou kufaar ka tareeqa hai.

ok ok joking : (

[P_G]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

^ mujhay 100% pata tha yehee jawab ayee ga......emergency light sirf pakistan ka tareeqa hay kion k yaheen light jatee hai ..wahan to jatee nahi...USA waloon ko UPS ka to nahi pata ho ga ..woh khalis pakistanion ki ejaad hai !

[TLK]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

Inshallah main namaaze juma ke baad haazir ho ke iss baat ka jawaab likhoon gaa

[kakaballi]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

How about "light a candle AND ruju ilal Allah"?

[muqawwee123]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju’ ilal-Allah ?

@P_G

Tlk n Muqawwee123> . .ap döno nay candle jalanay par jo dalaail deye hain .us main yeh point bi shaamil kar lain k jub bijjli jate ho to bhi hum candel jaltay hain. . Jub birthday cake kat’tay hain tub bi hum candel jalatay hain or candel light dinner main bi candel jalatay hain ..:bang head

[TLK]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

Dil ka diya jalaaya
mene dil ka diya jalayaa
PG ko
Phir bhi Sammajh na aaya
Dila ka diya jalaya

[P_G]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju’ ilal-Allah ?

@kakaballi

How about “light a candle AND ruju ilal Allah”?

http://www.memorial-land.com/light-a-candle#.VJT8bl4AKA

When a loved one dies each day that passes can increase the distance of the loss. Lighting a candle for a loved one is a way to both preserve the memory of the person you have lost and provide an act of worship to God. A memorial candle lighting service honors those who have died and provides room in your life to move forward from the loss. Lighting a candle for the dead brings comfort in knowing that he or she is memorialized in the place where Jesus was crucified, buried and resurrected. A memorial candle lighting service is a beautiful and meaningful way to capture the spirit and life of those who have died.

When you light a candle for a loved one you are connecting their soul to Christ, declaring your hope and belief in the newness of faith.

so** Kakaballi** agar to yeh hamare khud ki creativity hotee ya yeh candel light Vigil ka ammal sirf isee ley hota kyeh Global Expression hain to bhi itne kharabi nahi thee

masla yeh hay k app ik ayse cheez apnay culture main hire ker rahay hain jo Mushrikeen kay FAith say related hai

app ki neyat jo bhi ho ..lakin behrhaal jis qoom say app yeh lay rahay hain woh isee aqeeday k sath yeh kertay hain or dosree qoomain bhi ..

to app kay ISLAM main kia kammi thee jo app itna majboor hain k is tareeqay ko apnaye baghair guzara nahi?

Pakistan k ilawa or kitnay muslim countries main yeh hoa hay ?

and believe me jis nay haqeeqatan Ruju il allah ka matlub samjh liya woh kabhi is cheez ko sath nahi mila sakta

[muqawwee123]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju’ ilal-Allah ?

@TLK

Dil ka diya jalaaya
mene dil ka diya jalayaa
PG ko
Phir bhi Sammajh na aaya
Dila ka diya jalaya

kahin deep jale kahin dil
Jara dekh le aakar parvane
Teree kaunsi hai manjil

copied from: Kahin Deep Jale Kahin Dil Lyrics | Bees Saal Baad (1962) Songs Lyrics | Latest Hindi Lyrics

[TLK]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju’ ilal-Allah ?

@muqawwee123

kahin deep jale kahin dil
Jara dekh le aakar parvane
Teree kaunsi hai manjil

copied from: Kahin Deep Jale Kahin Dil Lyrics | Bees Saal Baad (1962) Songs Lyrics | Latest Hindi Lyrics

Lol, you did not have to tell me that you copied and pasted it. “Jara” and “manjil” told me that it was a copy / paste

[TLK]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

mahafil main jal uthi shama, parvaane ke liye
Preet bani hain duniya main, mar jaane ke liye

now this thread is nothing but filmi geet related to candle, diya, chiragh and shamaa. Ab PG ko pata chalay gaa ke kin se paala paraa hai

[P_G]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

Dil ka diya jalaaya mene dil ka diya jalayaa PG ko Phir bhi Sammajh na aaya Dila ka diya jalaya

Haneef ka mutlub samjhtay hain ?

do rangee chor day yak rang ho ja

sara sar moom ho ya Sang ho ja

and that is exactly Ruju illal Allah

main app logoon ki logics waqye nahi samjh sakee !

[TLK]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

PG, har waqt sanjeeda baatain ker ke aap ka mathaa ghoom nahi jaata? Wo kya shair hai jis main shaair kehta hai pasbaane aqal se ke dil se door ho jaa, wo wali baat aap ke saath nahi hoti kya?

[kakaballi]

Re: light a candle in memory of victims or Ruju' ilal-Allah ?

If Afridi hits a 6, all the spectators clap.

Now clapping was (in recorded history) used by Pagan Romans as an expression of appreciation.

There is no evidence in Quran or Hadess about clapping when you want to appreciate someone.

Shall we stop clapping?