Is hijaab a farz?

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Assalamalikum,

Careful sister Hareem, I think you’re taking this on a personal emotional level rather than discussing the issue as is.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with women who do not want to take niqaab. The scholars of the Hanafi fiqh for sure do not oblige women to do so, however whats in the religion cannot be changed.

Its halal for you to take interest from a bank in the west. Did you know this? However, is interest actually halal in the creed of Islam?

Would interest be haraam if it were taken in an Islamic country under shariah law? Ofcourse.

Just because a leeway is given to women in the west, does not automatically erase the law in the shariah, it amends it for the time being due to the environment women live in.

Anyways, I am quite sure I do not disrespect the great Ullema of our times, especially Sh. Hamza Yusuf and Sh. Faraz Rabbani. Alhumdulilllah, i’ve had the chance of sitting in their company, learning what I know and what I abide by, through their immense knowledge. May Allah bless them.

Wsalam

P.s. You don’t know if I shave everyday or not. You don’t know me in real life.

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Is it allowed to take interest from a bank and using it or is it just allowed to take it?

One thing has nothing to do with others. It took three or four hundred years for shariah to be completed and it doesn't mean that straight after Prophet(SAW) conquered Makkah he made niqab obligatory. It was a slow process that took hundred of years and when there was a need for niqqab Scholars made it wajib or necessary for muslim women to wear it to avoid fitnah. Infact, I don't remember hearing a Prophetic hadith on niqab.

If today someone implies Shariah in Pakistan and makes it wajib for every woman to wear niqab and beard for every man, do you think people will accept it? No. They will rebel. So be careful and don't chase people away from deen.

Ma'salaam

sorry for the comment about your beard.

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All that quran says is dress decently. Actually in pre-islamic arabia bare-breast only hidden by ornaments was quite popular tradition. quran does ask to cover the breast part but beyodn that all ti says is dress decently all this Shariah which took shape after 2-300 years under ummayad and abbasid dynsty cooked this Hijab and Burqah part on its own..

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Wrong. The aurah of men and women is described in ahadith of Prophet Muhammad(SAW). Also, the word khimar used in Quran means head scarf.

Covering head is also prescribed in other Abrahamic religions so there's no doubt in that.....but if woman fears harrassment and abuse in a Western culture then she can take off head scarf.

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Assalamalikum,

If your inquiry is serious, I can shed some light and present to you many narrations and traditions which are sound, on Niqaab. There are too many narrations on the concealing of the face from Bukhari to Abu Dawud. If you are serious to learn about them, let me know I'll post them here. If you want you can also find out yourself.

We have to be like the Prophet pbuh and his household, as well as his companions. If we imitate them, then we are successful. They implemented the Quran and Sunnah into their lives.

To implement it in our lives, we have to see what they did and copy them. I know far too many people who do niqaab, and many many more who do hijaab. I can tell you right now while they do have to struggle a little in wearing it, its not as bad as it sounds.

More people today accept hijaab in North America, then they do in Pakistan. Its a fact. You can safely wear your hijaab and your niqaab here. You'll get the occasional 'insult' or ridicule, however, isn't that part of the test?

Did the Prophets pbut change their Islam because they were going through hardship? Nuh, Lut, Hud, Ibrahim etc etc a.s. all suffered, and were ridiculed for following Islam, but that was their test.

Its understandable if one doesn't do hijaab or niqaab. Completely understandable, its tough no duh. Thus the scholars have allowed a slight leeway with Niqaab. However, to do it, is 10x the reward.

Whether we do it or not its our choice. This does not mean Allah will punish one or the other, no. What Allah does not like, is when we justify NOT doing it, by claiming that it isn't part of Islam.

Similar to my interest example, its a ruling in Islam, it cannot be changed, the Sahabiyats did it, the Ummul Momineen did it, and muslimahs around the world should also do it.

It does not mean that they're going to hell for not doing it. No, circumstances do exist that prevent one from doing this act. However, again I reiterate, we cannot claim it as something out of Islam, when it clearly is.

We all are in that state of Masiya'h, we can repent, but we shouldn't justify whats wrong.

Thats all I was trying to get across, I apologize if it sounded harsh.

May Allah bless you.

Wsalam

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are u talking about hijaab or pardaah ?

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Wasalaam

I don't believe in reading few ahadith from a hadith book about a fiqh issue and taking out a conclusion from them.
This is why we have scholars to take advice from who have mastered the sciences of shariah and they just don't pick out few ahadith and give fatwas.

I know where you're coming from but one can argue that Prophet's wives were not like other women and it's in Quran.
About Sahabiyah, we don't exactly know how did all of them dress up. Many ahadith indicate that they dressed modestly leaving the face unveiled.

What do you mean it's not as bad as it sounds? You're not a woman so i don't think you're qualified to say that.
And even among women, some find even covering head very hard. It took me a whole year to decide for covering head. So please do not underestimate how hard can it be for some women infact for most women to do these things.

I'm sorry but I wouldn't want for any muslimah to be insulted and humiliated in the streets by people for covering her face or head. And the whole purpose of hijab is lost which is to protect women.

Well, you should ask this question to the scholars who have allowed women to do what's in their best interest.

I haven't heard any scholars say that.
Can you give reference for wearing niqab is 10 times more reward????

Well, I don't really know what qualifies a thing to be part of Islam. Even if niqab is part of Islam it's still not obligatory and that's what I've been saying from the start.

Comparing niqab with interest doesn't make any sense. May be comparing niqab with growing beard would.
Niqab is not mentioned in Quran but interest is.

Yes may be.

I don't think I justified any wrong in my posts. I said what I heard from Scholars.

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theres a hadeeth which states" a woman will take many men to hell"
one of the reason can be the indecent dressing and showing off their beauty.Quran cleary states women to stay covered (face and head aswell)

Wht r u doing ?
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yes hijab plus naqaaB is farz for muslim womens ...

or jo log yeh logic daytay hain k hajj per face kion nahi cover kertay agar farz hota to

pehlee bat yeh k hajj or ummrah k ahraam main bhi naqaab farz rehta hai

ahraam main shart hay k kapra moun (face) per na lagay yeh hukam nahi kay face ko khula chor do

ahraam caps ki stiching isee terah hotee hay k us say face bhi cover ho jaata hai or kapra (cloth) touch bhi nahi hota ..hazrat ayesha (Rz) fermaatee hain hum Ghoongat nikal ker tawaaf kia kertay thay ..

ajj kal crowd itna hota hay k yeh ghoongat wala kaam to mumkin nahi

agar haaj ka Ahraam ko hee logic banaana hai to phir kehnay waalay ko soochna chaeye k kia males aam zindgee main ahraam ki terah unstich kapray pehntay hain ?

quran main hukam hay k apnee zeenat ko zaahir na kero

zeenat main her woh cheez shaamil hai jo dosray ko attract keray ....or face to sub say pehlay zeenat main shaamil hai

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My 2 pence worth:

I believe Niqaab is NOT compulsory.

My personal understanding and belief of Hijaab is that it should be observed, as in modest clothing, can show hands and face (personally I don't see a problem with showing feet either).

To me, Hijaab means covering my head also (but not face). Judging by the translations of the Quranic verses on this thread, it is easy to see why some people do not interpret Hijaab as the need for covering head, only covering the bosom. In the days when I made the decision to cover my head, I made it after reading up on the matter. In those days I interpreted Hijaab to mean headcovering as well.

The thing is, I don't know Arabic, I don't know the root word and associated meanings / implications of words that are derived from the root words, so I am not in a position to pass rulings.

I don't even want to get into the nitty gritty of things, sometimes its easier to use common sense and take the middle way. The way I see it, women perform Hajj with their faces showing, in fact many believe it is a condition of Ihram NOT to cover their faces, but their heads must be covered. So bcos of that, I still think Hijaab means to cover you head and body in a modest way.

At the end of the day, only what you look like on the outside does NOT make you a good Muslim.

Allah knows best.

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yeh aap ki apni samajh hai kay face bhi shaamil hai zeenat main...Qurani ayat ya prophet ki ahadith face ko cover kernay ko farz nahi kehti.

The best women, Maryam and Khadija [may Allah's mercy be upon them] didn't wear niqab.

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It says khimar should be used to cover breast part because tradion was to cover that part with ornaments which otherwise used to be bare, but there is no mention of burqua as people know as of today..

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Assalamalikum,

Ofcourse not, nothing that I have said is coming from my own opinion. Infact I'm trying to counter your opinion on claiming niqaab is not wajib, when it clearly is. The circumstances that allow a woman to wear one or not wear one can be different, but the act itself is still wajib.

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I know where you're coming from but one can argue that Prophet's wives were not like other women and it's in Quran.
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So if we can't imitate the Prophet's wives, then who are we looking to as Role Models?

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About Sahabiyah, we don't exactly know how did all of them dress up. Many ahadith indicate that they dressed modestly leaving the face unveiled.

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Such as Aisha r.a.'s maid when she would go out with her?

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What do you mean it's not as bad as it sounds? You're not a woman so i don't think you're qualified to say that.
And even among women, some find even covering head very hard. It took me a whole year to decide for covering head. So please do not underestimate how hard can it be for some women infact for most women to do these things.

I'm sorry but I wouldn't want for any muslimah to be insulted and humiliated in the streets by people for covering her face or head. And the whole purpose of hijab is lost which is to protect women.
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This is a false claim. Most people who hurl insults do it both towards hijaabis and niqaabis. There is no distinction. To say that only doing hijaab will save you from such insults and attacks is an understatement which needs to be corrected. To those attackers, they're both the same.

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Well, you should ask this question to the scholars who have allowed women to do what's in their best interest.
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I have asked, and I have presented their view here, you keep missing the point. Niqaab is wajib. In the west however, if the women chooses to do it or not, its her choice. If she feels she might become a victim of an attack she can choose not too, its not wajib in that circumstance. If she feels she is safe, then she is encourage to do so.

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I haven't heard any scholars say that.
Can you give reference for wearing niqab is 10 times more reward????
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10x the reward is a saying. Refers to multiple times the reward in comparison to another comparable act.

Who do you think gets more sawaab, a hijaabi struggling to put on a hijaab for the sake of Allah? Or someone who ignores it when she could've? Someone who prays only his fardhs, or someone who prays his fardh sunnahs and nafils as well?

There are levels of righteousness. You can attain higher levels by doing more rewarding acts.

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Well, I don't really know what qualifies a thing to be part of Islam. Even if niqab is part of Islam it's still not obligatory and that's what I've been saying from the start.
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You say you don't know, then in the end you make a claim that its not wajib.

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Comparing niqab with interest doesn't make any sense. May be comparing niqab with growing beard would.
Niqab is not mentioned in Quran but interest is.

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The concept of taking and receiving interest in the west, due to obvious circumstances by the scholars is exactly the same as saying you can do or not do niqaab. Its the act in the environment that amends the ruling.

In both scenarios, Interest is still Haraam in Islam, yet has been given leeway in the west. Similarly, Niqaab is wajib, yet has been given leeway in the west.

Its a simple comparison, and makes complete sense.

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Yes may be.

I don't think I justified any wrong in my posts. I said what I heard from Scholars.
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Majority of the scholars you quoted, their own wives do niqaab.

Not only that, there are MANY muslimahs in the west who do niqaab. Yet you claim its unsafe to do so. Are you telling me those niqaabis get abused everday of their lives? If its safe to do so, then whats the problem?

Not only are you eliminating something thats part of Islam, but your discouraging other muslimahs who may want to do the act from attaining that level of piety.

I've reiterated so many times, that if you don't do it out of safety reasons or concerns you are not being sinned, Scholars have allowed that. However if you are capable of doing it, you should do the wajib act of niqaab its simple. Its a choice. Not a decisive fact of Islam.

Wsalam

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Is this your reasoning for taking niqaab out of Islam?

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^Let me clarify once more for you.

The criteria of covering for women is prescribed by Quran and Prophet Muhammad(SAW) which is to cover everything except hand, face and feet.

The case of Ummhatul Mu'mineen is different, we know they weren't allowed to go out except for the necessity and some scholars say they wore niqab some say they didn't, they stayed behind a curtain.

At one time niqab became wajib because of the norms of the society but it didn't stay longer.

There's no evidence that says you'll get more reward for wearing niqab.

The scholars I usually refer to are Hamza Yusuf and Abdal Hakim Murad and their wives and sisters don't wear niqab.

These scholars say there are different forms of hijab in Shariah according to the culture.

In the UK, niqab is not welcomed by majority of non-muslims and in media they show niqabis as an extreme and the picture of niqabis sticking a finger at the cameraman was quite popular for sometime.

I personally don't care if someone dislikes me for wearing what I wear but I don't wear niqab because I don't think it's part of Islam and this is what I understood from Quran, hadith and Shayukh.

Btw, can you tell me who says eating interest is halal in West?

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No, this is my reasoning for being pious even without wearing niqab.
If niqab is a higher level of piety then why didn't the best of women wear niqab?

Answer is simple. Because their culture and society didn't require them to wear a burqa with niqab.

I'm not taking out niqab from Islam. Islam is a flexible religion and if you live in countries like Afghanistan and Saudi and Yemen where you'll be pointed at if you're not wearing it then niqab becomes wajib otherwise you don't have to wear it.

I believe hijab for men and women is something you wear and do to protect yourself from fitnah according to the norms of the society.

I'm not in a position to declare if niqab is better or only head-scarf is better. It depends on your intentions and sincerity.

If you wear scarf and niqab and you look down at those who don't wear it then something is wrong with your character.

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My thoughts quickly in brief:

The hadith of Ibn Abbas (RA) refers to "need to go out" meaning "call of nature" in whcih case women are commanded to cover so they cannot be recognised one eye to get bearings this coincides with the other hadith about the Sahabi noticing one of the wives of the prophet (SAW)

A slave Muslim woman and a free Muslim woman are not better or worse for that reason ... in the case of slaves of the wives of the prophet (SAW) they were all Sahabiya or from the tabi'een both of which are good to use as examples ...

The ruling of allowing niqab during hajj by creating a beak/hat to prevent the cover from touching the face is by essence void of the simplicity Islam mandates it is out of character to my understanding and is a fix to allow niqab whilst the requirement for ihram is clearly to not allow cloth to touch the face.

The term "except what is apparent" refers to the appearance for what is apparent if not the aperture, the appearance, the face? The condition of one eye to be open is dangerous as people will not be able to see in 3D depth perception will fail, a woman could trip, unless she is going to an area that she knows well, i.e. call of nature.

Hijab includes atire and behaviour ... atire has certain rules and so does behaviour ... the atire rules are based on aura ... so as long as aura is covered and behaviour is sublime then hijab is observed.

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main kia or mere naqis aqal kia …ulmay-e-karaam .mufsreen karaam , nay jis terah perday ko quran or hadees ki roshni main bayaan kia mainy us ko waysay hee likha..

hazrat mariyam ka ammal shariyat-e-muhammadi k ley hujjat nahi… is ley app ke yeh daleel koi haysiyat nahi rakhtee

hazrat khadija ki jahan tak baat hay to baat wohee hay k perday ka hukam kis waqt naazil hoa or yeh hazrat khadija ki wafaat k baad ka waqt hay

hazrat zaynab (rz) kay waleema main perday kay ahkaam naazil hoyee thay

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Meri daleel ka maqsad yeh tha kay aap baghair niqab pehnay bhi pious ban sakti hain.
Niqab kay baaray main buhat zyada ikhtalafat hain tamam Ulema kay darmyan. Aur koi Aalim niqab ko farz nahi qarar detay. To yeh kehna kay niqab farz hai, sara sar ghalat hai.

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^ koi Alim ferz qarar nahi daytay ? is waqt pakistan kay tamam baray madaaris kay
dar ul ifta perday ko farziyat per hee fatwa day rahay hain

yahan app ki tehqeeq thoree kamzor hai !