Re: I'm gay....what do I do?
this is kinda absurd and confusin...among gay couples one has to play the feminine role yea???...so why not get a girl instead.....qaum-e-loot was wiped out bcoz of this...i hope we get guidance from Allah(swt) and as to those who're simply astrayed...what can i say??...may Allah ta'ala have mercy on all of us..ameen
If your gay, then your not muslim. Sorry.
Maybe neither you are :)
Re: I'm gay....what do I do?
I didn't read all the posts and replies here but I think you should take people's advice here and stop everything before you commit a sin............and think about qaum-e-loot.........just think..............think.........and think...............
Re: I'm gay....what do I do?
yaar vhat cancer grtheera dying of?
yaar vhat cancer grtheera dying of?
Right now, he's suffering from cancer of the imagination. He has yet to get results from the doctor. So, he really doesn't even know himself what ails him. But whatever the ailment, we wish him good health and a speedy recovery.
I didn't read all the posts and replies here but I think you should take people's advice here and stop everything before you commit a sin............and think about qaum-e-loot.........just think..............think.........and think...............
yup agreed
BH already quoted the whole verse :)
ha ha
^ like your nick. very different yaar!
Thanks yaar :)
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you are so totally welcome yaar!
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KCCCC
salam yaar
Re: I'm gay....what do I do?
Homosexuality and lesbianism have been dubbed 'alternative life-styles', 'personal preference', 'natural variation', etc. In the West today, where homosexuality was once considered an illness by the Association of Psychiatrists, it has now been removed from the list and replaced by homophobia (the dislike of homosexuals and homosexuality). Consequently, Islam and Muslims are considered intolerant and biased due to their continued opposition. Arguments in favour of tolerance towards homosexuals are based on the assumption that homosexual behaviour is biologically based and not merely learned from society.
Early opposition to homosexuality was based on the argument that such behaviour was unnatural. Sodomy cannot produce children, which is one of the main natural consequences of sexual relations. 'Mother Nature' did not make us that way, it was argued. To counter such arguments, homosexual researchers scoured the earth until they found supposed homosexual behaviour among the animal kingdom. They found that the males of some species of exotic fishes off the coast of Japan imitated the behaviour of females of the species in order to prevent other males from impregnating their mates, and some rare butterflies from islands off the coast of Africa also had males exhibiting female behaviour during mating season, etc. However, if the animal kingdom is to be used to justify human behaviour, there also exists a spider in South America whose female is much larger than the male. When mating is complete, the female eats her mate.
During the 1980’s it was claimed that a gland in the base of the brain which is small in women and large in men was found to be small among homosexuals. However, this evidence, while seeming incontrovertible to the layman, was immediately refuted by scientists. The data was taken from cross-sections of the brains of dead adult humans whose sexual preference was identified prior to death. Consequently, the reduced size of that gland among homosexuals could have been a result of the practice and not its cause. That is, they could have been born with normal-sized glands which then became small due to their deviant lifestyle.
Recently, genetics has become the most commonly used foundation for the pro-gay argument. In 1993 Dr. Dean Hamer, a researcher at the National Cancer Institute, claimed to have discovered 'the first concrete evidence that ‘gay genes’ really do exist.' Homosexual orientation was supposedly transmitted to males on the X chromosome from the mother. Hamer’s findings, published in the prestigious journal 'Science', transformed his colourless career as a government scientist into a dynamic media personality and he penned his memoirs. He gave expert testimony to the Colorado Supreme Court that formed the basis of the victorious decision striking down anti-gay propositions. However, a replication of his study at the University of Western Ontario failed to find any linkage whatsoever between the X chromosome and sexual orientation. It was also found that Hamer’s study lacked a control group; a fundamental principle of scientific research.
Furthermore, in June 1994, the Chicago Tribune reported that a junior researcher in Hamer’s laboratory who assisted in the gene mapping in the homosexuality study, alleged that he selectively reported his data. She was then summarily dismissed from her post-doctoral fellowship in Hamer’s lab. But a National Institute of Health investigation substantiated her claims and gave her another position in a different lab. Though Dr. Hamer was coy about his own sexuality in his memoirs, he later admitted in his lectures that he was gay.
It should be noted that Islam, in its final form, did not introduce anti-gay legislature to the world. The texts of the Torah are replete with clear condemnations of such practices.
The consequence of AIDS is enough to prove that homosexuality is evil and dangerous to society. The early spread of AIDS was concentrated among the homosexual community. It later spread to the heterosexual and the so-called bisexual community through blood transfusions and intravenous drug usage. Its spread continues on a rampage among promiscuous heterosexuals.
Islam considers homosexuality to be the result of a choice. It is inconceivable that God made people homosexuals then declared it a crime and prescribed punishments for it in both this life and the next. To accept such a proposition is to accept that God is unjust. Inclinations can exist within humans for a variety of natural and unnatural acts, from fornication to rape and from necrophilia to bestiality. These inclinations may come from jinn-suggestions, media influence, or even from human whisperings or direct contact. Sodomy was common among the people of Prophet Loot (Lot) may Allaah exalt his mention who lived in Sodom, Palestine; after they had rejected his advice to give up this evil practice, Allaah Almighty crushed and then annihilated their city. The Quran describes that punishment in the verse which means: "So when Our commandment came, We made the highest part [of the city] its lowest and rained upon them stones of hard clay in succession." [Quran: 11:82]
Human beings are not like robots who only do what they are programmed to. Humans choose and God holds them responsible for their choices. Were homosexuality a product of genetic destiny, it would be unfair for God to criminalise it and punish those who practice it. Currently, some scientists are even claiming that murder is of genetic origin. To accept that would mean to excuse murderers and tolerate murder.
Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) cursed men who imitate women and women who imitate men. Abu Hurayrah, may Allah be pleased with him, said: "The Messenger of Allaah sallallaahualayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) cursed the man who wears women’s clothes and the woman who wears men’s clothes." [Abu Dawood & Ibn Maajah]
Source: Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips
Re: I’m gay…what do I do?
ok first off he wasn’t looking for a source out of the Quran and from Dr. Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips (Philips??) anyway, so please save that for someone who’s gay and thinks its ok to be gay in Islam! Clearly he knows the end result. So i think your here opening up to us, for some sort of comfort, because you are unable to find that any where else. Which is totally fine, because i would do the samething. Now don’t get me wrong the first thing i do want to say to you is that please stay and atleast try to stay away from such a big sin. Now having said that, i know its prolly not as easy as its said.
I think you need to plan your life. “stay at home dad,”:aq: i really hope you were kidding! Anyway think of what you want when your dying, where do you wanna be at the end? Do you believe in the hereafter, if so where do you wanna end up and why? Do you have dreams,( like: childern)? How do you think you want to go about that?
To make it easier on you maybe take youself out for a second from the pakistani culture and Islam, and then answer these questions. You need to map out your life with what you want and your dreams. If you could pick your destiny, what would it be? If you were to ask me i’d say this is a test from ALLAH, but then again i’m not in your position.
This is kinda off topic, but at my university, a pakistani guy came to talk about how hard it is for him to be gay and all, i missed the lecture, but i think it would have been priceless:)!
I’m mean don’t get me wrong that i’m very understanding of people in their situations, but i still think it is haram, and that those people should not be going out of their way to infect society, with their problems. ( This is not meant towards you its to that guy who came to my university to talk about it).
Good luck
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I think girls are so cute.
First of all you started off complaining about the source and then you stated about argumentation reference from Quran, but the 3/4 portion you over looked is the social and moral argument of the human socialization and the condemns referred to biological aspect of the nature design…I hope you understand what I mean with biological design of nature ( and it has nothing to do with religion and if you still want to drag religion in argument you are more than welcome), anyway, please get over with your tunnel vision… 
-so I understand that us pakistanis believe that gays are the scum of the earth so what am i to do. -let me start by saying, it is not a choice. i can remember liking boys back when i was three years of age and over the years it has not changed, i'm in my 20's now. -Here are the reasons I will not marry a girl: 1) it will not be fair for the girl 2) most of my family already has an idea that girls don't really appeal to me so it would be extremely awkward being with a girl knowing that my family knows that i have a thing for boys -my family and i live in north america and we aren't the most religious family, but we are pakistani -plz don't recite the Quran to me, yes i know what it says about homosexuality -Don't think that suicide hasn't crossed my mind. me killing myself would be more damaging to my family then me telling them i'm gay -plz, i want to hear what you have to say about pakistanis being gay
There is nothing haram about your feelings, because it's not your fault. Allah gave you those feelings. As long as you don't do something unIslamic, something haram with your feelings, everything is oké.
You have to make sure you don't do something you aren't allowed to, and everything will be fine. You will have to accept the fact, that life for you will never be like everyone elses. Eventually you will find strength and happiness in your life in your own way. I certainly hope so. :)
They once showed a documentary here about Gay Muslims. They have their own helpservice. Perhaps you could find something like that where you live. I think they know probably much better what to do and how to handle everything and maybe you'll meet someone in a similar situation. It helps to talk to people who really understand you.
And if other Pakistanis make issues out of your gay feelings, then ask them, if they were ever attracted to someone they weren't supposed to be attracted to, like a non-mehram for example. If they are honest, they will say yes, most people have before or even after marriage once or perhaps a few times been attracted to someone they shouldn't have been attracted to. But as long as they fight it and don't do anything unIslamic with those feelings, it's oké. Allah gives everyone all kinds of negative and positive feelings, but it's our actions, what we do with those feelings, that's really important I think.
First of all you started off complaining about the source and then you stated about argumentation reference from Quran, but the 3/4 portion you over looked is the social and moral argument of the human socialization and the condemns referred to biological aspect of the nature design................I hope you understand what I mean with biological design of nature ( and it has nothing to do with religion and if you still want to drag religion in argument you are more than welcome), anyway, please get over with your tunnel vision.................. :)
"Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) cursed men who imitate women and women who imitate men. Abu Hurayrah, may Allah be pleased with him, said: "The Messenger of Allaah sallallaahualayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) cursed the man who wears women’s clothes and the woman who wears men’s clothes." [Abu Dawood & Ibn Maajah]"
^ i only looked at that from your post first off, and i didn't read the 3/4 portion that your talking about! My point is not to put you down or bring in religion into your argument, because i could careless! But, instead it was to those who keep on bringing in the Quran, as if he already does not know what its states about gays!
Re: I'm gay....what do I do?
ARRE
Everybody can be influced by shaitanan somtimes and get abnormal/wrong feelings of any genre.
Shaitan is there to encourage us on ANY WRONG FEELINGS we have. He loves it.
He preys on each one of us where we are most weak or lack control.
He makes some peodiphiles, some addicted to killing= serial killer, some addicted to stealing=kleptomaniac, some addicted and some addicted.attcated to qualties of the same sex!
TT Bro we all have inclinations going left right and centre at time, the thing is we gotta watch them, supress them and dont let them get outta control.
Dont label yourself as Gay.
Come on. Im sure its somthing that has just be let get out of handa bit too mcuh.
Come-on Your a Man. You must still have lady-vigour in there somewhere.
Look for it. Nurture it make it come out.
Bro Just explore the world of girls for once. Make more friends with the Opposite Sex, and reduce your company with the same.
There is a lot of interestig stuff to explore on the internet.
You may not make it in one day, but keep at it.
This is really neat after your ‘they have nice figures, beautiful skin and hair’ comment about your hijabi friends 
I say RAWRRR to that, right there! 
