Greater Pashtunistan

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I am a pashtoon and I am not really in favor of pashtoonistan (greater or watever).

But i fail to understand a few things. If BREAKING UP is such a bad thing, why did we break up from INDIA? INDIA WAS OUR IDENTITY for the past sooo many centuries..
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remember musalmanoon ka apna mulak ??
every time a pshtoon is around indians what we get ? a srhadi ganndhi.

DUDE grow up. Thats you country. you answer for it, you don’t question it!!

Shadan, that is an interesting answer to what you asked...Don't ask ask questions...!

Recently, Teri MacLahan, the international bestsellor author and daughter of Marshal Maclhan, the Canadian intellectual, screened her doumenatry on Sarhadi Ghandi (Bacha Khan) in New York, which might have inferiorated many people...Obama has also shown interest in the movie...

But anyhow guys, political ideologies aside, Bacha Khan didn't share genes, culture, language, and history with Ghandhi...And why would some people run away from the fact that they share every other thing with people accross Wahga ..and one day might have to come to term with that reality in political sense as well...remember things always return to their natural order...

dude be true to to your own intellect start question formation of your own standards.
Here is from may pashtoon dudes:
We are from afgh
We are from turkey
We are from changes khan
After all whats there, is a common language and a heap of pride.

Get thisusa has issue with iran , anti irani wrier get the noble prize.
What ever bhacha khan was, he still was apolitical leader.
I still say zuban-y-khalaq naqar-y-khuda.
ppl in nwfp didn't let sweet NEHRO hold a relay there remember? or 60 yeas is too long to remember??

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Why so much bashing of Pukhtun nation on GS? You people know that they can't defend themself on PC only they are good in the field or (face to face). This all Pukhtunistan SHOSHA was a Drama from DIESELI MULLA. Leave this nation alone please they are already suffering......

It does not matter where the power house is located the river Separates 2 regions - one a preodminantly pashtun area and the other a predominantly hindko speaking area. The Indus does not flow through a Pashtun area but acts as a division. The people of Hazara have little interest in joining a pashtun state where their language will be second class.

You can build the dams if the people further down stream agree - and that does not necessarily mean just the Sindhis but other Pashtun areas too.

What makes you think Pashtuns would have no white elephant? There will need to be some army and police and under independence it will be the americans who will influence which course it will take - judging by their choices in iraq and afghanistan they will opt for power crazy dictators.

Development is amjor issue all over Pakistan and sadly it is not just NWFP which is not developedto its potential but all the other regions too. pakistan is a country which could sustain itself very easily but the the problem lies with the people managing the country.

The reality is Sindh, Pashtunistan, Balochistan, Punjab or whatever there is youwill still have those same corrupt incompetent polticians and leaders.

The West has no real reason to be in the region. They will find or cause a reason to be there. The British had no business taking over India but did that stop them?

What you want is pakistan to be a passive state with no power or influence and the West to be the police of the world or am I wrong?

Its funny that we in the east regardless of whatever religion, political affiliation, nationality are very keen to throw ourselvesat the feet of the West yet we cant even get with our neighbours - look at arab-kurdish-turkish-iran-baloch-iTajik-pashtun-hazara-punjabi-sindhi-muhajir squabbles.

Our future lies with our neighbours first.

Bengal was separated by 1000 miles of enemy terriority, so it was bound to separate from the rest of the country for administrative purposes.
But that did not discredit the two nation theory because bangladesh refused to become part of india.

Rhetoric is not something i am really interested in. If you have something rational, come up with it. I will always question. Thats the only way i know to get answers. But yes, you would certainly be the last person to seek answers from.

Totally Agree!

dude its not bashing.
on GS we talk. Almost about every thing.
Just hang in, you will discuss every thing too.
Even the Thing you think you will never speak about.

I guess more or less we all go through same phase. Probably you are there because of you curiosity or current day pakistan's conditions.

I had same issue because I interacted with indians, always dreaming about Pak.

I wondered too. Till a day, I told some one "the day I was born it was pakistan(all 4 prov.). So that makes it my motherland. To me pakistan is, what iran is for and iranian, usa for amreekan.
We don't question how our parents got together but they did, and here we are"

I litreally told old indians that!

After all its love/respect/pride what make a nation and sustain it through the time.
And I believe we have it all.

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It is not true that Pukhtoon aren't loyal to Pakistan, this is a lie. Pukhtoons love Pakistan as much as any other ethnic group.

I also do not support a greater Pukhtoonistan as it is both impractical, dangerous, and I believe, Islamically, it is a haraam concept. Nationalism should be towards Islam and not to a particular ethnic group.

Most of the Pukhtoon in Pakistan support the unification of Pukhtoon areas in Afghanistan and the whole country of Pakistan into a greater federation. I know this from my relatives and many of my friends living in these areas. That is the popular sentiment of the NWFP, FATA, and the rest of Northern Pakistan.

The war against Afghanistan has really set us back in our endeavors, but never forget that Pukhtoons were one of the greatest fighters who helped the Muslim cause for freedom against the British, and helped defend Pakistan in the three wars with India.

Pukthoons are very patriotic of Pakistan, and so the idea naturally appealed to the Pukhtoons. Pakistan hasn't done enough for Pukhtoons and instead has treated them with distrust because of their religious nature and love for Islamic unity. The secularists, many of them, openly hate the Pukhtoons for their devotion to Islam, though perhaps the same can be said of the oppression by secularists of the Punjabi common people.

This is no place for a hate thread against Pukhtoons, those who are against Pukhtoons should correct their ways and recognize that in Islam there is no racism.

Also, rupee news is a great website. Check it out.

Its only the afghans and pukhtuns who are going to suffer in an conflict with pakistan. In the 1960s afghanistan was about to have an war with pakistan.
Pakistan had responded by blocking the highways and imposing an economic blockade of afghanistan which had brought afghan economy on its knees, little did the afghans had realised how much dependent they had become on their knew neighbour.

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v^ery interesting.
What were the circumstances in 1960??

Nothing complicated. It was Bay-Waqoof Daood of Afghanistan a midget who took on Pakistan's army. Guess how? This knucklehead in 1960 sent Afghan troops (hahahaha Afghan troops, yeah right) into Bajore in order to create Pakhtunistan.

Afghan army was quickly routed and then Pakistan's president Ayub Khan put sanctions on Afghanistan.

As a result Afghanistan suffered for a couple of years and then Bay-Waqoof Daood was forced to resign.

Such is the life of Afghan midgets. You feed them, clothe them, and still they try to bite you. This is Na-shukra pan at its worst.

This is exactly what we should do now. Put sanctions, stop all food to any area in FATA or Afghanistan that tries to hurt Pakistan. Only then these knuckleheads will come to senses.

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Incidentally, Ayub Khan was also a Pukhtoon.

Pukhtoons have been a major part of Pakistan, and will remain so. Pukhtoons are just as patriotic as anyone else in Pakistan.

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burqaposh..why only sanction, nuke them you have nukes also.These FATA people has been used in 1948 in kashmir aganist India, then 1979 in Afghanistan aganist Russia and now aganist U.S.A.

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Amma kya sub nai Greater Pashtoonistan kee rut lagai hui hai

Choolai mai parai

I will hang some borads of Greater Punjab at night on Ferozpur Road, Mall Road and Model town and next day you all people will start creating conspiracies theories of Manmohan’s connections , RAW, Sikhs funding this movement :smokin:

Mulla Diesel have been given the challenge by Hamid Mir to come to Capital Talk to clarify why he declared GEO to be working for Zionists. Mulla Daish ka Bacha is putting up these boards to divert the attention to ANP and blame them for that.

What these poor after greater pushtoonishtan will get from Heroin Farosh, barbarian environment, shuttle cock burqas , talibans throwing acid on girls student faces. All wheat come from Punjab. Apnai Abba Jee kai Heroin Farm House sai Wheat produce karai gai . Atom na hau tau :smokin:

there are ppl there!!! in case you don't know it.
Like women and babies too.
Every year trip from our school use to go to waziristna.(Good old days)
They didn't find any thing but "PEOPLE".

So NOW pakistan have 2 ways to fix the things, not only we can bomb ppl we can also starve them to death??
Talk about US being cruel to muslims!!!