how can anyone think this is not a function of sexual repression?
there are two questions to be asked when analyzing afghan pederasty:
1) why is it that their targets are males and not females?
2) given that they are pursuing sex with males, why are they interested in boys and not men?
the answer to question #1 is self-evident: they simply do not interact with females due to strict segregation and extreme conservatism. this also applies to married men who obviously have access to a woman - for them a dancing boy serves the same purpose as a mistress or prostitute does to a married man in the west. they have no access to other women but plenty of access to these boys.
the answer to question #2 is that pre-pubescent boys are much better facsimiles of women than are grown men. the dancing boys are totally feminized...they are dressed in women's clothes and accessories and they are taught to dance and act like women. the masters/perpetrators are not homosexuals. same logic behind the universal phenomenon of straight men having gay sex with each other in prisons in every country on earth - it's because they simply have no access to women.
to think segregation/sexual repression is just a coincidence and does not facilitate phenomena such as bacha bazi is simply preposterous.
aray kahay ko pereshan hotay ho babwa....thora bhot to chalta hee hai...ab kaya hai kay hum bee to bhot saray logon kay seenay pay daal moongtay hain......
Budhapey mein thorough Bohuth pareshani is par for the course, hey Partha.
The fact of the matter is that we're going back into daur-e-jahalat. We're actually living in the age of ignorance. Some may blame religion for all the ills in the world and that's fine, that's their opinion. But in my view, it's the fact that people have deviated from Islam that's led to this jahil panna. If they understood and followed what Islam said about female infanticide, killing the innocent or this filth called bacha bazi, none of these would be an issue in this day and age.
Sorry, what's daur-e-jahalat.
And, this has nothing to do with Islam, my dad told me about this and I'm from Khalistan.
All religion is doing is giving *******s a safe haven to do this.
This is why you shouldn't mix religion with politics, it can be a guiding force;
but there's no fact in life that says every muslim think you should spend more on roads, and every sikh more on hospitals.
Saar segregation of sexes is practised by muslims all around the world....
now muslims are also more than 1 billion......so consider sex eligible population of males....and compare number of these cases...
kindly do not confuse different topics...
segregation that majority of muslims practice for example in lahore or lukcnow or jeddah is nowhere close to segregation that we see in afghanistan, tribal areas of pakistan, some portions of NWFP, in most of the mdrassas, and in catholic churches......come on you know that ninja....this segregation that i am talking abt throughout in this thread is brutal..my friend who was raised in afghanistan and now work in UN here in nYC was telling me that sometimes you wont see a woman face for weeks and when they come out they are completely covered toe to head..
how can anyone think this is not a function of sexual repression?
there are two questions to be asked when analyzing afghan pederasty:
1) why is it that their targets are males and not females?
2) given that they are pursuing sex with males, why are they interested in boys and not men?
the answer to question #1 is self-evident: they simply do not interact with females due to strict segregation and extreme conservatism. this also applies to married men who obviously have access to a woman - for them a dancing boy serves the same purpose as a mistress or prostitute does to a married man in the west. they have no access to other women but plenty of access to these boys.
the answer to question #2 is that pre-pubescent boys are much better facsimiles of women than are grown men. the dancing boys are totally feminized...they are dressed in women's clothes and accessories and they are taught to dance and act like women. the masters/perpetrators are not homosexuals. same logic behind the universal phenomenon of straight men having gay sex with each other in prisons in every country on earth - it's because they simply have no access to women.
to think segregation/sexual repression is just a coincidence and does not facilitate phenomena such as bacha bazi is simply preposterous.
spot on and i said the same in post 53.. to say that men in afghanistan/nwfp, madrassas/chruches who are involved in molestation activity do this because they love boys-only is plain naivety because it is hard to believe that such a large proportion would be interested in boys-only....
they do it cuz they find feminism in these young boys..it is so obvious..they dress them like girls and have them dance like girls....and yet majority of posters are insisting that this is a not a pronounced trend at a societal level in those societies/segments and that those people do it just because they are not normal people and they luv boyz only....la howl walla quwata illa billah...
i know why these guppies are so defensive...it is because societies under discussion happen to be muslim societies and of course we Pakistanis are the biggest thekedar and defender of islam...even though no one is blaming islam here although it is a fact that religion does play a role in an indirect fashion by promoting some level of segregation (catholic churches, madrassas) but such brutal segregation is mostly cultural which is now practiced on the name of islam
i challenge that had i talked about the exact same problem with the exact same logic in Austria and Sweden or any other non Muslim countriy, none of these guppies would have come up with these kind of excuses
and you want to say that muslims of other places satisfy their lust and sexual urge by looking at other women?
yes they do...and that is normal...and it is not that only muslims do it...e....many men in every society look at other women to satisfy lust and sexual urge...and the solution is not to hide women ..cuz then furstration will reappear in some other way such as people going after young boyz...
Fact is that this issue is the part of a bigger problem which needs to be seen in the entirety. We need to stop justifying this behavior under any pretext, and secondly the perpetrators need to be brought to book.
i challenge that had i talked about the exact same problem with the exact same logic in Austria and Sweden or any other non Muslim countriy, none of these guppies would have come up with these kind of excuses
Excuses? Aren't you the one making excuses for these animals? You're basically saying that if a doctor takes advantage of the nobility of the medical profession then the profession is to blame. I'm just surprised that men don't seem to be getting offended at how you keep saying they need someone to satisfy their lust, agar auratein nahin millein gi toh wo bachon ko abuse karein ge. That's just sick and I find that extremely offensive as a woman. And I'd be equally disgusted if men in Austria and Sweden blame women for provoking men into raping them. You don't have to agree with what I'm saying but don't disregard that as just a stupid defensive outburst.
Excuses? Aren't you the one making excuses for these animals? You're basically saying that if a doctor takes advantage of the nobility of the medical profession then the profession is to blame. I'm just surprised that men don't seem to be getting offended at how you keep saying they need someone to satisfy their lust, agar auratein nahin millein gi toh wo bachon ko abuse karein ge. That's just sick and I find that extremely offensive as a woman. And I'd be equally disgusted if men in Austria and Sweden blame women for provoking men into raping them. You don't have to agree with what I'm saying but don't disregard that as just a stupid defensive outburst.
I don't believe an excuse is being made. Potential reasons are being discussed. One of the reasons being COMPLETE lack of interaction with females. And it is bring proposed there needed to be less restrictive policies.
