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If this was a muslim that said this i suggest he read the quran [al-Maa’idah 5:51]
no one supports killing an unarmed man in the street but equally you cannot praise a so called soldier whose jobs was machine gunner on tanks in afghanistan killing other muslims.
If he is firing at people who are attacking his position, then he has every right, even according to Islam to defend himself, Muslim or not.
British Soldier Beheaded in London in busy street
No but invading countries abroad, changing regimes, wanting control on their resources people and leaders, is simply colonialism in disguise.
You cant be that naive.
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If he is firing at people who are attacking his position, then he has every right, even according to Islam to defend himself, Muslim or not.
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Not if he is occupying someones land.
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You dont even know what colonialism is. You just have penchant for inane cliches. Ranting without even the slightest thought, just like always.
Your rulers not listening to you is not an example of colonialism.
"your rulers" as you stated is incorrect statement i never gave these so called leaders authority or a vote they was forced onto us by the Colonial powers.
secondly
Definition of colonialism
the policy or practice of acquiring full or PARTIAL political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting it economically:
Iraq occupied and explited by USA
Afghanistan occupied by the US
Saudi Arabia exploited by USA inc
Kuwait " " " USA inc
Pakistan owned by US!
just to name a few well known examples
Now take recent example, MAli what business was it of another colonial power France to send its armed forces in 24hrs to retake Mali a firm french colony? They used the tired excuse of al ciada taken over when in fact it was military officers (loyal to the American camp who initiated a coup).
Do you even have know about what is being playd out in MAli? judging by your comments you are clueless as usual.
And you want to claim colonialism doesn't exist?
Nice joke.
In regards to the british soldier and you supporting him killing muslims in afghanistan or making it justified.
as someone mentioned he was occupying muslim land with his army at the time and secondly under islam we do not pray for the enemy soldiers especially the americans and british who in a crusade against the muslims, but seeing as your firmly in the camp of the occupiers supporting them like a cheerleaderit no surprise you sad and upset for them when they expire.
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probably its suited here: Asia Times Online :: UK pays price for MI5 courting terror
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You are just proving the Imam right. This is what happens when you take verses in The Holy Quran out of context or quote them without any proper knowledge or understanding of the context in which the verse was revealed. Muslims in Britain are not under attack by anyone and they have complete freedom to practise their faith in a civilized and peaceful manner so this (cold-blooded) murderous act is not justified in Islam.
I don’t know why is it so hard for you to grasp this simple concept. There is no ongoing violence against muslims in Britain and we are ‘guests’ in this country. Muslims have no right to harm let alone kill British civilians and soldiers in their country. If this soldier was killed on the battlefield in Iraq or Afghanistan, then fine … we won’t be having this discussion here. But the fact is he was murdered in cold blood. Him being armed or unarmed is beside the point. What was even more shocking was the way one of the killers then gloated on camera after committing this heinous crime. It was disgusting.
Equally stupid & sick are these extremists who disrupt funerals of soldiers. There is a time and place for protest
Muslim protesters brand war heroes ‘murderers’ as homecoming parade turns violent | Mail Online
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I totally 100% support Drone Strikes as long as Pakistani Army is unwilling or unable to go after the terrorists who live on its sovereign territory.
Infact, by killing the Taliban #2, God only knows how many countless lives have been saved from this terrorist who was undoubtedly planning more attacks.
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No but invading countries abroad, changing regimes, wanting control on their resources people and leaders, is simply colonialism in disguise.
You cant be that naive.
Look up the defintion of colonialism and then talk... Colonialism is nothing more then a vastly over used term.
And if they did over throw a regime in Saddam Hussain and the Taliban, its hardly something we should be cursing them for. Saddam was sadistic sob as are the Taliban, and the over throw of either of these regimes is hardly something we should be offended by and hardly a reason to justify murder. If anything, the Muslim extremists should be kicking themselves for allowing such brutal regimes to exist, not blaming the Americans and British for over throwing them.
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Look up the defintion of colonialism and then talk... Colonialism is nothing more then a vastly over used term.
And if they did over throw a regime in Saddam Hussain and the Taliban, its hardly something we should be cursing them for. Saddam was sadistic sob as are the Taliban, and the over throw of either of these regimes is hardly something we should be offended by and hardly a reason to justify murder. If anything, the Muslim extremists should be kicking themselves for allowing such brutal regimes to exist, not blaming the Americans and British for over throwing them.
these countries also changed popularly elected leaders....
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Not if he is occupying someones land.
Before you start issuing fatwas or blindly assuming that anyone who calls themselves a Mujahid is justified in his fight; examine with honesty, whether the person who is being attacked ACTUALLY is committing a crime. What does occupation even mean? What is he occupying? Is he preventing Afghans from tending their fields, offering their prayer?
What makes him the occupier, why isnt the Taliban, far more brutal and draconian then the Americans or British, why are they not considered occupiers? Did the Afghans elect them?
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these countries also changed popularly elected leaders....
So let the people who's popularly elected govt deal with their own issues, what does this have to do with Nigerian convert living in London...
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"your rulers" as you stated is incorrect statement i never gave these so called leaders authority or a vote they was forced onto us by the Colonial powers.
secondly
Definition of colonialism
the policy or practice of acquiring full or PARTIAL political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting it economically:
Iraq occupied and explited by USA Afghanistan occupied by the US Saudi Arabia exploited by USA inc Kuwait " " " USA inc Pakistan owned by US!
just to name a few well known examples
Now take recent example, MAli what business was it of another colonial power France to send its armed forces in 24hrs to retake Mali a firm french colony? They used the tired excuse of al ciada taken over when in fact it was military officers (loyal to the American camp who initiated a coup).
Do you even have know about what is being playd out in MAli? judging by your comments you are clueless as usual.
And you want to claim colonialism doesn't exist?
Nice joke.
In regards to the british soldier and you supporting him killing muslims in afghanistan or making it justified.
as someone mentioned he was occupying muslim land with his army at the time and secondly under islam we do not pray for the enemy soldiers especially the americans and british who in a crusade against the muslims, but seeing as your firmly in the camp of the occupiers supporting them like a cheerleaderit no surprise you sad and upset for them when they expire.
Iraq is independant, Saudi is run by the HOUSE of SAUD, Afghanistan is governed by Afghans, Kuwait is run by Sheiks, and Pakistan is run by incompetent politicians..
Just because you claim these countries are run by the US doesnt make it soo.. They are influenced by the US, not run by it.
Nice joke.
As regards the British soldier, you CLAIM he killed AFGHANS. This is YOUR accusation, its not a fact.
I dont care if he killed Taliban in Afghanistan even if they are Muslim... I hope he killed HUNDREDS of Taliban. I congratulate him for killing those dogs... Kill more I say.
He wasn't occupying Muslim land, he was fighting terrorists in Muslim lands.
You sound like lunatic as always.. No intelligent person should take you seriously.. Im surprised you even know where Mali is.
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Iraq is independant, Saudi is run by the HOUSE of SAUD, Afghanistan is governed by Afghans, Kuwait is run by Sheiks, and Pakistan is run by incompetent politicians..
Just because you claim these countries are run by the US doesnt make it soo.. They are influenced by the US, not run by it.
Nice joke.
As regards the British soldier, you CLAIM he killed AFGHANS. This is YOUR accusation, its not a fact. I dont care if he killed Taliban in Afghanistan even if they are Muslim... I hope he killed HUNDREDS of Taliban. I congratulate him for killing those dogs... Kill more I say.
He wasn't occupying Muslim land, he was fighting terrorists in Muslim lands.
You sound like lunatic as always.. No intelligent person should take you seriously.. Im surprised you even know where Mali is.
Under the pretext of a Lie Iraq has been occupied for the purpose of grabbing the oil of Iraq. With The US embassy in Iraq having 16,000 thousand staff and size of the embassy being 1.5 square miles you want to say US influences iraq? only a moron would would say something so stupid US runs Iraq fact.
Saudi arabia relies on United States from producing soap to providing it with arms to arranging its policies, oh in your small mind this is called influence in a normal persons mind its called colonialism.
As for you saying britsh soldiers don't go to afghanistan to kill wow lamest excuse of the year they must go to give out lollipops to the locals according to your narrow mind!
and then even going to the low level of "congratulating british and americans occupiers killing hundreds of muslims" only heard this from some of the worst antagonistic non muslims and secular fanatics so no surprise it came from your mouth at all.
Its good you gave no opinion on occupation and colonisation of Mali because you are clueless and had to use cheap insult to cover your lack of knowledge on the subject.
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Iraq is profiting from its oil not the US. You have to give me proof that the US is running Iraq. Last i checked, Iraqis were runing their own country.
That Saudi buys from the US is because the US is selling, and the best weapons are sold by the US. Just because people buy things from another party, doesnt mean that second party owns the buyer… Makes no sense. The US also relies on the Saudis to buy from them.
And they are in Afghanistan to try and prevent terrorists from gaining control, not to kill civilians. It madness to believe the British are systematically killing Afghan civilians.. Do you have ANY evidence to support you absurd claim?
French troops have left Mali…
BBC News - Malian fears as French troops prepare to leave
French troops depart Mali, leaving joy, worries
After fighting an extremist Islamic group guilty of:
“Islamist insurgents retreating from Timbuktu set fire to a library containing thousands of priceless historic manuscripts, according to the Saharan town’s mayor, in an incident he described as a “devastating blow” to world heritage.”
They rebels were characterized by locals as follows:
“They weren’t religious men. They were criminals,” said Maha Madu, a Timbuktu boatman, now in the Niger river town of Mopti. Madu said the fighters grew enraged if residents wore trousers down to their ankles, which they believed to be western and decadent. He alleged that some fighters kidnapped and raped local women, keeping them as** virtual sex slaves**. “They were hypocrites. They told us they couldn’t smoke. But they smoked themselves,” he said.
BBC News - Mali crisis: Key players
All these militants follow the Saudi-inspired Wahhabi/Salafi sect of Islam, making them unpopular with most Malian Muslims who belong to the rival Sufi sect.
They have tried to impose their version of Islam, amputating limps of people convicted of crimes and and destroying Sufi shrines, which they claim promote idolatry.
The UN Security Council has warned that that the destruction of shrines in Timbuktu, a world heritage site, could amount to a war crime.
So basically, you are supporting rebels accused of murdering people, raping women and destroying cultural heritage, and forcefully trying impose their beliefs on the people of Mali.. You also claim the French are trying to occupy Mali, which is contradicted by the fact that French troops have already left. I think its you that doesnt know what he’s talking about.
Now your going to say Western media outlets are spreading propaganda… Well then present your case from your own sources.
British Soldier Beheaded in London in busy street
I was wrong. You can be that naive it seems. Or plain blind in this case.
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I was wrong. You can be that naive it seems. Or plain blind in this case.
Your not the first paranoid conspiracy theorist to cal someone else "naive." You can wear your tin foil hat, I will rely on evidence. Call me naive.
British Soldier Beheaded in London in busy street
Is that what they're passing for evidence these days? My... the standard is low.
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My... the standard is low.
Attacking the source as being below ones standard, can be characterized as a form of denial and falls under the category of narcissistic personality disorder. There is treatment for that...
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only a moron would would say something so stupid US runs Iraq fact.
Facts can be proven to be true... So prove it. Show me the evidence of the US running Iraq.
You and Ma Mooli saab both, together between the two of you should be able to dig up some hard evidence. Sadly, all you can do is talk, and all Ma Mooli can do pretend he is somehow privy to some insight the rest of us poor naive souls couldnt even imagine.
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Your excuses for US occupation is getting more desperate by the minute. Iraq was profiting from oil long before US inc decided to grab it for themselves and dish out contracts to who they please. The US run the facilities and they dictate who gets what, your lies cannot get you out of this fact.
You did not refute another fact of US occupation it has worlds biggest embassy in the Iraq with 16,000 staff who the hell has 16,000 staff in an embassy??? whats your excuse on this stop wasting time for everyone they run Iraq end of!
The british have long history of killing and exploiting muslims but as you stated you happy for them to kill hundreds more you even congratulate them on this, like i said only heard such sick statements from extremist secularists and racists.
MAli is french colony no one in political circles denies this you have added nothing to the discussion except make the usual niave and diabolical statemtn about “extremist muslims”.
heads cut off women enslaved blah blah blah the usual propoganda we hear from colonislists before they kick in regime change funny they dont seem to bring anyone to trial or is that because the dirty colonialists are doing these filthy crimes themselves who knows because you certainly don’t you busy making excuses fro them and cheering the british in killing muslims??