British Soldier Beheaded in London in busy street

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You didnt prove your case, there is no evidence to assume its an occupation, so what to be desperate about?

Size of the embassy doesnt prove its purpose, as you assert. It only means that they have a large embassy. For what, I dont know, but speculation isnt grounds for any conclusion.

That there is a long history doesnt prove their intent. And why are you mixing the Americans up with the British? The Americans have an embassy and the British are the ones to get the blame? Who are you criticizing here?

British also have a very long history of being genrous to Muslims. The fact that there are so many Muslim in Britain today attests to that.

Mali is former French colony. And please, show me the evidence to show that the French have reoccupied it... All the media are saying the French have left Mali. Icant find anything to support your claims.

Everything is propaganda if it doesnt support your narrative. Thus no source would ever be good enough for you. If everything is propaganda, then please, submit YOUR sources which back what you say and arent propaganda.

I only support the killing of terrorists. The only good Taliban is a dead Taliban.

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It is sad that someone got killed for a symbolic reason and as a protest against invasion of other countries by the West. We need to tackle terrorism however terrorism cannot be tackled solely through the use of force. At some stage you will need to address the causes of terrorism which is foreign policies of the West and their support for Israel. I am baffled by people coming up with smoke screens and trying to avoid looking at the deeper questions.

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I or any muslim on this forum can quote an ayah even if we have basic understanding, our beloved prophet(saw) said proclaim islam, even if you only know one ayah. secondly even children in masjid now meaning of this ayah, nothing at all been taken out of context clearly written in black and white you not allowed to take especially enemy soldiers as your allies this is so simple i am surprised you even asking question on this matter. Only the scholars for dollars on government payroll are willing to contradict quran and claim enemy of muslim is hero, never heard such nonsense.

I already stated if you living in place like UK you cannot break their laws unless it makes you do haram. I disagree only on the issue of you calling that soldier a hero, find me a ayah or hadith which allows a muslim to call this dead soldier who was machine gunner on tanks during his afghan patrols a hero?

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get over it not single person is buying your nonsense that their is no colonisalism

Ignore british bloody history and call them genourous what a laughable statement

yes forget what they did to palestine
forget how they gassed the kurds
forget how they raped and pillaged indian subcontinent
forget how they propped up dictator after dictator

list goes on but you want to go on about how "generous" buy allowing muslims to come over in 50;s and 60;s to work in factories that makes everything right i guess, pathetic. It suits you to be their cheerleader after all those are you are your words you congratulate them on killing muslims!

enough of the spin your excuses have run out we know what you are.

your a headless chicken on this subject you cannot even differentiate between US and Britain in a discussion US occupies and rules iraq and the british soldier who got stabbed is british is that clear enough for you oh secular one!

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^ exactly enough of the smoke screens

root cause of terrorism is western foreign policies in particular US and UK.

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. Give me evidence of the British/Americans controling all these countries...

Its very simple, google it and paste it...

Otherwise, your accusations are just nonsense.

No ones ignoring history, but history alone doesn't prove your point. Accusations like yours require evidence. Where is it?

Do you consider murderers to be Muslim?

British Soldier Beheaded in London in busy street

Privy to insight to whether afghanistan is occupied or not? Whether colonialism still exists or not? Lol ask a 10 yr old, and even they might be able to point you towards the 'evidence'.

I cant believe you are being so obtuse in this day and age. Are you a newbie on this block? Do you really believe you're the first one to bring these lame justifications and explanations?

Cuz you're a bit late on the scene, these arguments have been done to bits, rinsed through over and over since 9/11. At least try and be original rather than repeating things from typical edl/ anti muslim forums lol. We've heard them all before. Hence the 'yawnz.'

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For god sakes man... Im not asking a ten year old, im asking you. I dont have to believe you because you think it probably true.
Obtuse would be if you provided ample evidence and I still ignored the obvious. You havent provided any evidence or substantiated any claim. All you have done is call me naive and apparently, that makes you right!

I acknowledge that the US and other powers have significant clout and influence. Money plus Power equals everyone doing as you say. Thats a given. But your saying the US and/or Britain are occupying and controlling these countries directly. Where is the evidence for this?

All I can say is that without evidence, all there is, is your own perception. Now perception can be notoriously inaccurate. What we believe to be the case, isnt always the case. So im going to assume that you are right, that i am naive. So now, show me evidence that directly proves your assertion that Afghanistan and Iraq among others are directly controlled by the US. not influenced by the US, but directly CONTROLLED by the US. Meaning the govt are puppets controlled by the US.

Very simple request. Prove your accusations are accurate with actual evidence. If you cant provide it then just admit it and we can avoid wasting any more time.

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what a lost cause you are, people on the forum are laughing at you dude!

the evidence has been slapped in your face and you still can't see it.

come on say it again i want to read it say "colonialsm does'nt exit" i need too laugh again today!

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What evidence? Show me.. .

As a side note, China is now the biggest buyer of Iraqi oil, despite the US’s 812 Billion dollar war.

So if America is a colonialist power, why is China getting most of Iraqs oil?!?!

China Iraq Oil: China Wins Big On Iraqi Oil in Wake Of America’s $812 Billion War

Rommel and Ma Molli… Can one of you please explain to naive me how the US despite controlling Iraq ended up losing out to China!!!

Oh and Colonialism doesnt exist…

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812 billion dollars spent on Iraq war? What does that mean? US printed 812 billion dollars, and at least 80% of that made its way back into the US economy. As far as China is concerned, it sells the US a lot of stuff to get the dollar so that it can then use it to buy oil. Therefore US also benefits by being able to print paper that has a value as oil suppliers will accept it for the oil. Colonialism is the establishment, exploitation, maintenance, acquisition and expansion of colonies in one territory by people from another territory. In how many countries does the US have a military presence in? Although you don’t need to have a military presence in this day and age to be a colonial power. The invasion of Iraq was more to do with supporting Israel and trying to strengthen its position rather than oil alone.

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so let me get this

in the last 14 pages we have discussed:

  1. british soldier that was beheaded
  2. pakistan's role in it?
  3. TTP role in pakistan
  4. terrorism in pakistan
  5. muslim dress code
  6. US drone attacks
  7. US invasion of iraq and afg
  8. colonialism

what else

have i missed any other topic that was discussed here ?

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Nope...that about sums it up :D

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wait i may have missed a few more topics cos i didnt have time to sift through all 14 pages :(

  1. 9/11 and what led to it and who was behind it
  2. shia-sunni conflict
  3. some jinn stories
  4. food recipes

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:rotfl:

Mea Culpa on the 9/11 tangent…that was all me…somewhere along page 3 or 4 I believe…and then I bowed out…

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[mod]Locked for clean up, and review. Way off-topic.[/mod]