Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
FOR THE PEOPLE who think that these blasts are the result of government policies, I have just one question. Do they think its enough, OR there should be more blasts like this?
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Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
RAW, KHAD, CIA may be involved in the periphery with this jihadi menace but we'd be fooling ourselves if we believed that this is a foreign plot.
The jihadis knew exactly where to hit the FIA so that the part holding interrogators would be wiped out. They also attacked the house in Model Town where ISI was interrogating some suspects. They had detailed insider knowledge.
WE have a military and intelligence service which had trained Talibans, jihadis and gangs of all types to torment Afghanistan and India. Many of those guys had kinship and idelogical ties with Al Qaeda. Then we thought we can take money from Americans and just hand over Arabs when we wanted. We did not realize that our jihadi "pets" are actually humans and had ideas of their own, including implementation of Shariah and turning our country into Talibanistan. Suicide bombers cannot be controlled. If anything, these guys have managed to convince their ISI and military contacts to help them.
We need a full purge of ISI and army of Deobandi and Wahhabi types. We also need to go after leaders. For example, despite connection to BB's murder and several attacks, Qari Saifullah is being protected by ISI. As long as powerful people want to protect jihadis, these attacks will keep happening.
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
It time for Pakistan to adopt shoot to kill policy and send these devils to jahanaam. No trials, No mercy, Hang Em High!!!
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
It time for Pakistan to adopt shoot to kill policy and send these devils to jahanaam. No trials, No mercy, Hang Em High!!!
Aw..Yea...there's a little issue of who do you shoot to kill? Security checkpoints get setup and become targets. I mean what's a sure way to prevent such things from happening?
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
FOR THE PEOPLE who think that these blasts are the result of government policies, I have just one question. Do they think its enough, OR there should be more blasts like this?
I don't think bolded part is really a question. If number of ready-suicide-bombers claimed after Lal Masjid saga is anything to go by then chances are that there will be more blasts.
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
FOR THE PEOPLE who think that these blasts are the result of government policies, I have just one question. Do they think its enough, OR there should be more blasts like this?
How about not assuming for starters, as if any of us 'want' to see more.
Secondly, yes i do think Govt. policies for the past have a wholeee lot to do with it. When you can't contain flames, you don't put more fuel on the fire, you settle the fire with other means.
Diplomacy is the way forward, force can serve as the spine to strengthen the dialogue.
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
RAW, KHAD, CIA may be involved in the periphery with this jihadi menace but we'd be fooling ourselves if we believed that this is a foreign plot.
The jihadis knew exactly where to hit the FIA so that the part holding interrogators would be wiped out. They also attacked the house in Model Town where ISI was interrogating some suspects.** They had detailed insider knowledge.**
WE have a military and intelligence service which had trained Talibans, jihadis and gangs of all types to torment Afghanistan and India Many of those guys had kinship and idelogical ties with Al Qaeda. Then we thought we can take money from Americans and just hand over Arabs when we wanted. We did not realize that our jihadi "pets" are actually humans and had ideas of their own, including implementation of Shariah and turning our country into Talibanistan. Suicide bombers cannot be controlled. If anything, these guys have managed to convince their ISI and military contacts to help them.
We need a full purge of ISI and army of Deobandi and Wahhabi types. We also need to go after leaders. For example, despite connection to BB's murder and several attacks, Qari Saifullah is being protected by ISI. As long as powerful people want to protect jihadis, these attacks will keep happening.
yes. why do so many people refuse to understand this simple logic? Posing as if this this is not true is only helping the jihadi nuts
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
It time for Pakistan to adopt shoot to kill policy and send these devils to jahanaam. No trials, No mercy, Hang Em High!!!
r u talking about Musharaf & USA combined killing Pakistanis or those who are suicide bombing them... I think both needs same treatment.. both are killers of innocent pakistanis
Re: Lazy Pakistanis watch as Pakistan turns into Islamic Jannat of Afghanistan
I say drop a couple of canisters of Gas which USA has developed which sterlizes people and our issues is solved
where?
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
FOR THE PEOPLE who think that these blasts are the result of government policies, I have just one question. Do they think its enough, OR there should be more blasts like this?
The people who think its the result of Govt Policies are overwhelmingly large in Pakistan.. no one wants blasts that kill even Pakistani agencies.. but all want policy change.. people dont want missiles flying from outside killing peopel and terming all of them terrirists.. they dont want people disapperaing and sold to foregn agencies.. and they dont army to invade and destroy parts of pakistan just to get billions of dollars for so-called war against terror..
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
RAW, KHAD, CIA may be involved in the periphery with this jihadi menace but we'd be fooling ourselves if we believed that this is a foreign plot.
The jihadis knew exactly where to hit the FIA so that the part holding interrogators would be wiped out. They also attacked the house in Model Town where ISI was interrogating some suspects. They had detailed insider knowledge.
WE have a military and intelligence service which had trained Talibans, jihadis and gangs of all types to torment Afghanistan and India. Many of those guys had kinship and idelogical ties with Al Qaeda. Then we thought we can take money from Americans and just hand over Arabs when we wanted. We did not realize that our jihadi "pets" are actually humans and had ideas of their own, including implementation of Shariah and turning our country into Talibanistan. Suicide bombers cannot be controlled. If anything, these guys have managed to convince their ISI and military contacts to help them.
We need a full purge of ISI and army of Deobandi and Wahhabi types. We also need to go after leaders. For example, despite connection to BB's murder and several attacks, Qari Saifullah is being protected by ISI. As long as powerful people want to protect jihadis, these attacks will keep happening.
Lol, they call up an ISI officer/agent and ask them to reveal the FIA buildings secret and weak points? These attacks were f***** planned and took some time to execute. There is enough control at FIA and at least 16 cameras are planted in this area!!! At that day 14 were out of order 2 were working.
Oh haan and Its all coincident and what I'm blabbering is all conspiracy.
Been there, done that!
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
AliR,
If you find it comforting to hide behind “RAW/Mossad/CIA did it” theories, good luck to you.
Rest of us see reality for what it is. We have an army and agencies who trained these monsters and are now facing the wrath from their former pupils. See below - Hizbul Mujahideen is a Kashmiri group that we trained. Now they are attacking us. This is what happens when you play with fire.
http://www.pakobserver.net/news/topstories01.asp
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\03\13\story_13-3-2008_pg1_2
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
Right, you are one of these who consider secret, hidden prisons to be a hoax.
It will take me years to convince you of the opposite.
Nevertheless, the facts you have been quoting here must make you think twice on how Al-Qaida or Taliban can have full information about these places and their whereabouts and that in detail without valid INTEL?
Do you believe ISI still has people onboard, who sponsor/support them.
Thus you blame ISI for all suicide bombings Lahore, Khi, Swat indirectly?
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
The people who think its the result of Govt Policies are overwhelmingly large in Pakistan.. no one wants blasts that kill even Pakistani agencies.. but all want policy change.. people dont want missiles flying from outside killing peopel and terming all of them terrirists.. they dont want people disapperaing and sold to foregn agencies.. and they dont army to invade and destroy parts of pakistan just to get billions of dollars for so-called war against terror..
and they dont want these people touched, who are commiting these crimes.
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
If we had a strong Police and counter terrorism force, then we could have avoided some of these suicide bombings. This is getting old. Right now it’s too easy to commit any level of crime in Pakistan without getting caught. Nutjobs are everywhere but we don’t hear that many incidents in Western countries because of their strong law enforcement agencies. For once I like to see heavy investments made on our internal security agencies. Install cameras at strategic locations, seal the borders, revamp the whole internal security setup, recruit highly professional cops, I don't know..anything that can keep our our country little safer. Take some major steps without going to the extremes. You just cannot hope to root out the terrorists by bombing certain places. Our government should be on high alert all the time and be pro-active when there is any indication of terrorism. We react only when there is an incident
Well Said! I wish more people would think like that instead of coming up with their lame responses of bombing the places or involving America & Israel. I also wish our government and law enforcement agencies would take such measures to reduce the risks of these attacks.
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
the problem with these terrorists... is that they are fed/taught/controlled by military. lets not ignore that people within the ISI and military are giving terrorists key intelligence information which is later used to orchestrate these well planned attacks.
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
Your wish has already been fulfilled by your masters.
I'd much rather have an American master than a Pakistani master. Atleast the Americans set out to do what they say - and they said they'll stay for a thousand years if that's what it takes to kill the last of those taliban scum.
Pakistani leadership on the other hand is nothing but a useless lying doublespeaking phoney, willing and capable of doing absolutely nothing, unless it gets a nice check in the mail and a nice cushy safe house in Maryland.
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
I'd much rather have an American master than a Pakistani master. Atleast the Americans set out to do what they say - and they said they'll stay for a thousand years if that's what it takes to kill the last of those taliban scum.
Pakistani leadership on the other hand is nothing but a useless lying doublespeaking phoney, willing and capable of doing absolutely nothing, unless it gets a nice check in the mail and a nice cushy safe house in Maryland.
I am sure your masters must have heard your plea to bomb schools in the TA. How many children and women have been killed so far-have your masters been able to quench your thirst for revenge or more women and children should be killed?
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
[mod]Please cool the rhetoric. Debate topics politely without going into each other's motivations to kill others. [/mod]
Re: Breaking News: Another Bomb blast in Lahore
Inna lillahi wa inna illahe rajeeon
This is so terrible, how can they kill other Pakistanis. How can they walk into a building knowing that they are about to kill everyone in there, even children.
I dont know grrrrr it just so sicking and sad