re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
Thanks for closing the case :cobra:
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
Osman hits it head on…
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/487268.html
The curious case of Zulqarnain Haider
**There's plenty in Haider's story that does not compute, but equally there is the fact that he wouldn't have given up his career if his claims weren't serious**
[Osman Samiuddin](http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/487268.html#)
November 16, 2010
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A confession: over a week on, little of the curious case of Zulqarnain Haider makes sense to me. Certainly nothing in it makes the kind of sense that much of the British press has made of it. In that simplified, romanticised narrative he is already the sole knight raging against the darkness that engulfs all of Pakistan. It’s no fun - and probably not very healthy - to be the cynic, but with more questions than answers at this stage, I cannot buy into this so readily.
Is he really cricket’s latest whistleblower? As I last understood the job description, whistleblowers reveal the rottenness of an entity they are a part of, usually at great cost to themselves. Rashid Latif outed several people in his own side in the mid-90s, including the captain. He was a whistleblower.
So far Zulqarnain has outed an Asian man who speaks a little Urdu. To the ACSU: good luck finding him in Dubai, short of neither Asians nor Urdu-speakers. ESPNcricinfo understands the ACSU has not been told a great deal more so far than what Haider has publicly said. This is not whistleblowing yet; this is finding an incredibly convoluted way of reporting an approach by a suspect personality.
The other revelation is concerning a domestic 50-over game from March 2009, and it isn’t much of a revelation. Haider was dumped as captain of Lahore Eagles ahead of the game, against National Bank of Pakistan (NBP), because, he says, he refused to pick players imposed upon him. The scorecard has a bizarre, men-against-children look to it. Two players who played for the Eagles hadn’t played before and have not played since; one of them conceded 78 runs in three overs. As part of the narrative, this game is thus fixed, Haider faced threats then as he did now and so domestic cricket in Pakistan is crooked; moreover an NBP side with Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir and Kamran Akmal is a fine bit of clinching evidence.
Why let the truth get in the way of a good yarn, eh? One of the players selected was no cricketer but no fixer either; his father is a local Lahore administrator who desperately wanted his son to play a representative game. It is the kind of forced selection that the subcontinent’s domestic- and junior-level cricket is littered with. It is a problem, but of a different type entirely.
The Eagles, incidentally, are the poor cousins of Lahore, the second-string team in which play the second-string talent of the city. They had lost three games fairly convincingly before this one. Above all, the match wasn’t even televised, and TV we know, is the oxygen of bookie-dom.
With these kinds of exposés Haider is simply an asylum-seeker, not a whistleblower.
And much else besides should be questioned. Why did he leave updates on Facebook for all to see? And go to a TV reporter first instead of approaching the PCB or the ACSU? That, I find difficult to dispute, says more about Haider than it does about either the PCB or ACSU. The PCB is inept, incompetent, disgraceful, but to assume they may be in cahoots with the underworld is still a considerable leap. And Tim May’s argument that the ACSU cannot be trusted to keep secrets is irrelevant here at best. The one thing that is blindingly clear is that Haider is not a man looking for anonymity.
Nor did he approach anyone in the team. It's been easy to forget over the last few months that there remain characters in and around Pakistan cricket untainted by such muck; could not even one, such as Younis Khan, or Abdul Razzaq be spoken to in confidence? Haider says he wanted to protect the team by not telling them. And telling the rest of the world instead protects his teammates how?
Why wait four days and play one game before leaving? Why go to the UK and leave your family in the hands of Lahore police, which as every citizen of that beautiful city knows is in no hands at all? These questions are not to dismiss him or his deeds. These are logical questions that must be asked of a man who has taken a grave step.
Indeed, there is no need to be as dismissive and vindictive as some of the reactions from the rumpus that passes for a cricket fraternity here.
The approach itself is as believable as not. Who would still approach a side under such scrutiny? Or is it simply that the hooks are in that deep? ***But to swat it away as some have on the basis that Haider is no player of significance is to be blind. He was the wicketkeeper, a position Pakistan should know only too well, is uniquely capable of affecting the course of entire matches. Approaching a wicketkeeper, in fact, makes immense sense. Calling into question his mental health, as the team manager has done, is in outright bad taste. ***
What little I saw of Haider as a cricketer I liked. He isn’t a great wicketkeeper - and the bar has been set remarkably low by Kamran Akmal - but clearly there is something in him that functional teams should like; a little fight, a little heart, something that equates to more than just the parts.
But a significant part of me looks at how energetically he hunts for media attention (and how much of it he has already attracted in a short career) and then to this episode, and does so with real worry and suspicion that none of it may be of any real consequence. ***Another smaller part can’t help but worry why else someone would give up a budding career as an international cricketer if not because of something very serious and disturbing, something of immeasurably greater consequence.
The lack of any real resolution between those parts is the real frustration of the last week.
Osman Samiuddin is Pakistan editor of Cricinfo
The text in RED is what at least I have been trying to say in a nut shell.
I know all he did seems childish. But ICC, its ACSU and lastly PCB need to dig deep into this to see if infact there is something that prompted Zulqarnain to dump really the potential King’s crown compared to the court jester’s prize he may end up with.
Allah knows
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
And I have been saying this in a ‘CocoNUT shell’ ^ that his initial bases for this** ‘Hasty’ escape to no where ‘Near Home’ but England !**
And let me add here “The Current Mafia that SY and NOW” are talking about are UK based ( We are getting the impression so far) And if we assume for a second that he was approached and was given life threats and severe
repercussions to his family in Pakistan, What would be your "natural’ choice ?
A - You walk into the ‘Hub’ of the Mafia gang kneel down and beg for mercy , sing a song/dance in fron of Gubbar Singh “jab tak hai Jann baqi” ,
B - Run to your Mummy and complain to her about bullying?
C - Not trusting any ‘Desi’ Run to the ICC Headquarters and seek Help from Goras,which are dim-a-dozen at ICC HQ?
As the the time progresses, and quite correctly this/his case is being built around ‘How nice and mazloom he is’ and I’m sure his ‘Legal Help’ is realy building up an asylum case for him,
Plus plus plus, :cobra:
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
ur wrong!! the whole betting mafia is controlled by Dawood bhai..based in (most likely) dubai.
Another bit of information..do u know that Javed Miandad and Dawood bhai are in-laws? Javed’s son is married to Dawood’s daughter.
The system is rotten to the core..i would believe Zulqarnain Haider more than any other clowns.
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^ yes you are right, I have really been impressed with all the revelations he has made since his asylum application to UK. Newspapers all over the world are full of earth shattering, match fixing, revelations made by him. Once he gets his aslyum, for which he created all this drama, you will never hear again from this clown. 
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^^ If is just that then PCB and ICC should come out and show that with an investigation report. That way we all see that they can actually handle things professionally and not try to do the ostrich act. That way Zulqarnain will also learn a lesson and the DRAMA will end.
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Unfortunately the system of granting Asylum is not that simple and for one it will take ages to review his application. As long as he keeps it green and fresh with new revelation on need to expose basis he will able
buy enough time for further escalations. He seems to have 'Good Help' to make it work for him.
Think Again! WHY UK?
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
PCB to decide Zulqarnain’s fate, says Ijaz Butt
Updated at: 0730 PST, Monday, November 22, 2010
LAHORE: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Ijaz Butt has said that Zulqarnain Haider acted irresponsibly, adding that the board will decide his fate after the investigation.
Chairman PCB was talking to media on Iqbal International Airport after his arrival from the private tour to China through Dubai.
On the spot fixing scandal, Ijaz Butt said that the ICC will make the decision on this matter, adding that the date has been fixed for hearing.
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
^^ yeah that was right after he landed and came out of the terminal at Lahore....saw it on GEO last night...
I hope their 3 man tribunal has some GOOD insight into this SAGA...
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^^^ I'm CRAZY like a Foooool , What about DADDY COOL ^^^
Sorry guys ! I could not wrap my head around "China" syndrome via DXB !
Last year PCB was under probe by senate committee on PCB Expense wallets. Then Pr Zardari 'Khuppay Butt' and now it seems all izz well again? Despite the turmoil happening all around them ?
Does MR President wants PCB Chair Ijaz Butt to continue as long as he wants to 'hide' something ??
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
IGAAAZ BUTT’s report is still pending…but Zulqarnain is saying he will reveal all names in 5 days…
why 5 days…don’t ask me…
Meanwhile his wife says she got threats in relation to Zulqarnain’s claims…
http://cricket.ndtv.com/storypage.aspx?id=SPOEN20100161527&nid=69181
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
OK ^ 5 Days are up and over ! 
7 Names are out curtsy of Mr. Majeed & GEO news.
NOW find the link, Zulqarnain > London > GEO Reporter > Lawyer $$ > Majeed $$ > Majeed $$ >
New Zealand-Tour $$ > Back to > GEO NEWS $$$ 
Hmmmm! Something smells very fishy fishy 
over-and-out!
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
they should make a drama serial out of this, what a bunch of losers making money at the cost of their country's name, selfish retards, nothing more
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If spot fixing is a SOAP opera, Zulqernain drama is nothing but a comedy serial.. wo bhi bachon ki.. Even that has some sensible parts..
I'm telling you guyz, Zulqi has gone totally insane. He knows he has done blunders and now he just wants to make up by saying "O I can do this".. "can do that.."..
Honestly, no matter if he's got asylum or wut.. but he's such a pathetic looser..
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Haider wants political asylum in UK: poll
KARACHI: Pakistan’s former wicketkeeper Zulqarnain Haider’s announcement to expose some people in the game is a bid to get political asylum in UK,the majority of a poll conducted by the ARY News website said.
**An overwhelming 61.19 percent of the voters were of the view that Zulqarnain Haider has issued the statement to get political asylum. **While 32.84 percent voters said the former wicketkeeper wants justice as 5.97 percent reserved their opinion.
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
So where is this pathetic loser now? I heard he's gone missing in uk as well and even his lawyers have abondened him (or vice versa)..
And O yes, how about that blastic reveals he "was" about to make?? Wut happened to that? Is he buisy in script-writing right now??
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
Haider bara peyara
ammi ka dulhara
kahaan gaya kahaan gaya
dhoondheen sabhi
PCB nai dhoondha
ICC nai dhooondha
Butt jee nai dhooondha
mila tu kahaan mila?
asylum main mila
bookie nai hans k kaha
jeooo maireey laaal
jeooo mairey laal
tum ko lagey mairee umer
geoo mairey laal
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
Haider bara peyara ammi ka dulhara kahaan gaya kahaan gaya dhoondheen sabhi
PCB nai dhoondha ICC nai dhooondha Butt jee nai dhooondha
mila tu kahaan mila? asylum main mila bookie nai hans k kaha jeooo maireey laaal jeooo mairey laal tum ko lagey mairee umer geoo mairey laal
hahahaha
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I seriously recommend you stick to your day job d6c… :khums:
re: Zulqarnain Haider goes missing/ announces retirement/returns back - drama continues
so should we read 5 months instead of days or what?
seems like this runaway loser is cooking something with his friends in the UK, or may be Geo has no “script” ready to be read as news yet