Re: Your Wife’s Past
Now that put a serious dent in the evolution-oriented theory of sexism.
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The same rules that apply to the man making such announcements three years into his marriage should apply to the woman.
Both should be encouraged to show mercy so that mercy be shown to them.
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I think what she is trying to say is that you are conforming (maybe subconsiously ) to exactly that which you claim to abhor so much.
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exactly my point hiccup:blush: thank you
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So, feminists should not get married? I didn't think that was the doctrine of feminism...please show me where it says that in order for one to stand up against double standards against women, one must also refuse to get married. :)
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everyone has a past.. its better to ignore it and move on.
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no it is better to learn from it, but not beeing sentimental about it! so that the move one is a move towards better:blush:
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it's better to go sperate ways because it will be difficult to trust. But ifu can trust then give her a chance.
I know a Mrs Smith but Mr Smith hasn't got permanent stay so we will see what is Mr Smith reaction as he knows what she has been upto while he was waiting for his visa..
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:Dcause sexism was based on physical power and the need to control women more tightly after agriculture invention…not on mating habits:D i’ll post a thread:)
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?p=3791174#post3791174
well feminist want equality, but in mating and pregancy and nursing there is no equality as it is the most hard for the women! so i think feminist should not get marrried and have children:flower1:
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feminism...more like a curse word today. anyways if it was not for feminism most of us women would not probably even be here posting on this forum expressing our thoughts this openly while sitting in our offices. we take alot for granted.
anyways as far as getting married and having kids is concerned, it is a personal choice and i believe it is all about having the freedom to make that choice....even after marriage, the choice to have kids or not or adopt. to stay home or work. the same applies to a man. i dont know what the driving factor for a woman is which makes her want to have a child. is it society or the ingrained motherhood factor in her? .... i have to wait to find out. but having the choice to want to be in a position where you will have babies, tend to them, have a nanny, work etc etc does not lead to inequality in my opinion.
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sure you can a another women bear your child and feed him, in rich developped societies but i allways think about the average citizen of the world, not the silver spoon born like us! what are the perspectives for average females in this world? contraception is hard and risky for health, breastfeeding is mandatory cause other milk can be polluted, corrupted; jobs are paid far less than for men..so what is the result of getting maried and having children for the average female world citizen? having children:D....rest are inconveniences...that most men will not bear, hence i think that true feminist are those who do not marry and have children. i'm not saying i like or not.
and look at your signature! building by destroying themselves is exactly what all females are doing when they get pregnant! in our countries more females die of delivering children than of AIDS!
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i think the whole point of being a feminist is that you cannot tell her what to do or how to lead her life. You should not label a person something (which our brain always loves to do ....categorize people and then ascribe a certain set of characteristics to them ...because it is so much more convenient and easier to think this way) and say that a feminist should only behave in such and such way....this is another form of social control and having a choice to not accept a particular social control in my opinion is what a person should have like someone said "man is born free but everywhere he is in chains".....
a woman fighting against domestic violence is fighting social control....and is labeled a feminist, a woman posting stuff on a discussion board might be labeled one...(she might be doing zilch practically) ...
in my opinion a woman getting married and having kids still has the right to demand equality in other aspects. i agree it is not an ideal situation but envisioning an ideal situation is what the brain does best. we have to think outside the label, the category and look at it from an individuals point of view too.
nothing is absolutely necessary.....nothing is still worth destroying yourself over.....you do it, you dont do it...its really up to you....that is, if only YOU let it be. you also have the choice of going with the flow though.
this is just how i look at it though. you have a right to believe in your definition of a feminist all the same. :)
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if you don’t wanna be labelled feminist then don’t defend it:blush:…
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thats exactly what i do. but i also know that i am blessed....with having had the opportunity and in many cases the good luck.
unfortunately many women are not as fortunate as me and do not have the resources or opportunities. so they cannot just 'get up and take their rights' they have to fight.
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again others can label me anything they want. i really dont care. i still will defend anything i feel must be defended. call it feminism if u want.
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my dear, i have a secret for you:
remember one thing, those who succeed best are those who lead hidden battles, cause they can't be caught, if you openly express your battles you are an easy target. while if you are allways taking sidewalks and sneaking throught open wounds to reach your goals under cover your chances of getting to the point are higher!
men are richer and more powerfull in this world, open confrontation will lead you nowhere, that is the greatest weakness of "feminists"
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to each his/her own....i guess ill have to just wait and see where my approach lands me dont i? and so far its been good for me.
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well feminist want equality, but in mating and pregancy and nursing there is no equality as it is the most hard for the women! so i think feminist should not get marrried and have children:flower1:
Again, can you tell me of where it says that a feminist should not get married. Can there not be equality in marriage? I think there can. If I give, he gives. If I saccrifice at some points, he saccrifices at some points. If I give time to the children, he gives time to the children. If I have my play time, he has his play time. So on and so forth.
Equality holds different meanings to different people. Equality, according to traditional feminist theory, just means that a woman has the same right of choice that a guy does. Compromise comes with it, so I don’t see how you can say having children and being married are not for feminists.
Extremist feminists might be different, and just like you have various Islamic sects, or various existential theories or various ethical theories, you have various feminist theories. Some are more extreme than others. Some don’t call for equality, but female superiority. Some call for male abuse. Etc etc. I don’t see where I’ve ever said ANYWHERE on these forums that women should not get married or they should not have children. I don’t think that’s part of the feminism I believe in. 