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NPs and PAs are midlevel providers and they have their own place in healthcare industry. But comparing their training and education to a physician is most certainly equivalent to a joke
no one is saying they can replace a doctor, and my post did not say that either. but they are qualified in assisting physicians and thats what they do.
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I personally wouldn't have the patience. Maybe I should be open to it, and I will likely consider it too. But I don't think I'd have the patience.
A couple good friends of mine married guys from back home, after long distance relationships with the guys. Both the guys are hard working and were successful there. It is taking them both time to get settled in their careers and it is extremely difficult for the wives. The wives knowingly took on the responsibility to be the breadwinner, but did not anticipate how long it would take their husbands. They are unable to start a family until the husbands are financially ready, so they feel that their lives have been paused.
That's quite a good point. Given that, it seems that marrying someone from back home may not be the best option for a woman in her 30s as it may take a few years for the guy to be financially secure and be able to start a family. That's quite an important factor that should be taken into consideration.
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I personally wouldn't have the patience. Maybe I should be open to it, and I will likely consider it too. But I don't think I'd have the patience.
A couple good friends of mine married guys from back home, after long distance relationships with the guys. Both the guys are hard working and were successful there. It is taking them both time to get settled in their careers and it is extremely difficult for the wives. The wives knowingly took on the responsibility to be the breadwinner, but did not anticipate how long it would take their husbands. They are unable to start a family until the husbands are financially ready, so they feel that their lives have been paused.
Why are they waiting to start a family? If there is money coming into the household, they can work on their pregnancies now. Why wait if they want to have kids?
Again. It all boils down to the money the guy is making.
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no one is saying they can replace a doctor, and my post did not say that either. but they are qualified in assisting physicians and thats what they do.
Well right now they're trying to take the place of docs, esp in primary care.
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Oh ho. I never said its better to choose an engineer over a nurse. Rather, the opposite was said. A NP assumed to make more money than a poor engineer (which is a fallacy, like others have said engineers can do pretty well), should be a better catch to women.
Hence coming back to my original point, is it all about the money? Because if a NP whose training is less, grades in school can be mediocre, and he/she isn't top in their class, but an engineer probably did pretty damn well in his/her science classes compared to future NP or anesthesist or PA, probably spent more time doing quality projects/leadership in school compared to future NP/PA, is a poorer option compared to future NP/PA, that decision is being made on a money comparison...rather than an education/talent comparison, then clearly why would we marry a man from Pakistan?
for some people though, it can be all about money. Not saying thats for everyone. but even for guys sometimes, money can play the biggest factor in deciding the rishta. so many guys these days want a doctor girl so they will have a good life together.
i think yes, many people look at guys or girls who have potential to make serious $$.
i know many girls from here who want to marry guys who have done mbbs from Pakistan, (even though they have nothing in common with them) but hey, he will make good money in a few years. same goes for many guys too btw.
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Well right now they're trying to take the place of docs, esp in primary care.
dont blame them, blame Obamacare.
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Well right now they're trying to take the place of docs, esp in primary care.
Sadly, its not only primary care. Hospitals are now hiring 1 anesthesiologist and 5 nurse anesthetist to work under them. Radiology which is one of the most lucrative specialty, is now being outsourced to teleradiology companies in other countries.
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dont blame them, blame Obamacare.
yea true that .. I regret voting for obama but if I had to do again I would still vote democrat because republicans I think are too racist and uptight
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Getting back to the original question, lets for arguments sake say that the Pakistani guy is an engineer, not an IT one but mechanical, chemical etc., yes, it wouldn't be hard for him to build A Career here, but it depends on how old that guy is. If he already has 15 years of experience in Pakistan, than ageism can come into place. He will be too old for entry level and his Pakistani experience will not be considered much for him to work at a higher level. Usually 25-26 year old engineers come here from Pakistan, get their masters degree and get work. If they have petroleum industry experience esp. in the Middle East, than that is considered, even for older people.
So the problem is not being from Pakistan and Pakistani education but more about age. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule and yes, IT people even those who are older have an easier time getting in even with Pakistani experience.
regarding nurse anesthetists, those are the elite among the nursing profession and you need to have 2 years of acute ICU experience and a good GPA to get in. Of course, the criteria is much lesser tha doctors but still---. Also, a lot of nurse anesthetist jobs are in hospitals in smaller cities (yes, I know ambulatory surgical centers in larger cities have these opportunities too, but more exist in smaller cities, that is one more factor to consider. Would you be willing to sacrifice the closeness of a desi community that is to be found in larger cities or are you ok with it?
Also, harsh reality, desis like prestige positions. Nursing is not considered an elite profession in Pakistan, so even if that person is earning well, he would not be considered quite the catch!
who has to rebuild himself here, meaning, he wont have a job once he comes here to be with you? (so like marrying a woman and bringing her over, but genders are reversed).
Let's say for argument's sake that you're working, and/or have money from whatever means and the two of you can afford to deal with the haul of the guy setting himself up here (education, new job, etc).
I bring up this topic because I'm observing some of the comments of women swooning in another thread over a nurse anesthesist and the idea he can make 130 K.
Is it really all about the $$ at the end of the day for women?
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yea true that .. I regret voting for obama but if I had to do again I would still vote democrat because republicans I think are too racist and uptight
^ SEE this is the problem. dont blame NP, blame the liberals who voted for this system.
republicans are not all racists either. some are but many liberals are totally whack as well. most republicans i know in real life, including my husband, are the opposite of racist.
sorry pcg for derailing your thread.
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^ SEE this is the problem. dont blame NP, blame the liberals who voted for this system. republicans are not all racists either. some are but many liberals are totally whack as well. most republicans i know in real life, including my husband, are the opposite of racist.
sorry pcg for derailing your thread.
Being republican was fine with me years ago when they believed in reality, common sense and ability to defend.
But nowadays, republicans are more homophobic, deny facts and research in education plus all that abortion fiasco. LOL Thats another topic.
Apologies to PCG for derailing ... i would end here :P
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Being republican was fine with me years ago when they believed in reality, common sense and ability to defend. But nowadays, republicans are more homophobic, deny facts and research in education plus all that abortion fiasco. LOL Thats another topic.
Apologies to PCG for derailing ... i would end here :P
yes i agree with you, there is alot of homophobia with them. I don't agree with their views either when it comes to LGBT rights and their anti-abortion stance. this is why religion and politics should stay separate.
last post regarding politics in this thread.
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Forget starting over in a new country, I wouldn't be able to get past the accent.
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You missed my point. Your viewpoint shows how women (desi) value income over education/knowledge. It is all about $ at the end of the day for women. Hence my post - would a girl take a guy from Pakistan.
Even the replies suggest they would only take the guy if they view him as an investment - if he's got what it takes to be successful in another country and it is expected that he'll catch up in terms of education/job and soon be making $$.
OF COURSE then money is important which is reflected in responses here. Do you know why? Because it doesn't matter how much education he has, at the end of the day if he can't support his wife and kids and the wife has to do everything, well I don't know about you but I would not want that burden. I wanted the freedom to decide whether I work or not- and not have this dictated by a NEED to work. Allhamdullilah, hubby has it covered so I know that when we have kids or if I just want to have a break, he is more than capable of financially running our household. I would not want to marry a guy that I have to financially babysit- plus I assume that any guy would start to resent that with time as well. The answer to your question is that no, I would not have married a guy from Pakistan and not only due to the financial considerations but also because I have seen a lot of imported grooms have trouble adjusting to the lifestyle here as well and there are of course differences between someone who is born and raised abroad and someone who has been raised in Pakistan.
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It all boils down to economics. Again.
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Being an Engineer is a SEXY 
and btw if you have common sense then it hardly takes 3-4 months to pickup accent / “american way of life” .
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engineers have technical expertise of fixing magaz. a nut here and there
You didn't mean to say these people are nut job? ;)
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The guy must show some energy that he can take care of himself and hers.
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I will not be comfortable doing that. Unless I am very very very sure that the guy can get a stable job soon after arriving. I do not want to take risks as financial security is very important.
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no