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No matter what people post in this thread reality is that 90 or may be more percent of girls wont marry a guy like that unless there is a family pressure to do so.
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I dont think people understand the salaries of engineers well. aside from starting salaries, the trajectory between the two roles is quite different.
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Thank you! Engineers make very good money especially the ones in IT. I know a CCIE guy who easily makes $300k. He is a network architect.
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^And if they’re from England.
Okay…okay…bad joke.
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You're joking, right? I guess you're not aware of the nursing shortage.
Even though nurses work hard, it is really easy to get into nursing school. True Story
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true. My husband would kill me.
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It's not hard to get into nursing school. Yes they work hard, but their hours are great. They're some of the most relaxed and well rested people ever. Great folks, no doubt, but they do not have grad school kind of pressure on them.
Most NPs need to have masters degree. many doctors also have great hours after they are done with residency, doesn't mean they are lazy.
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Even though nurses work hard, it is really easy to get into nursing school. True Story
My comment was in regards to her comment that nurses have great hours and live the most relaxed, laid back and stress free lives. While getting into nursing school may not be difficult (I don't know whether it is or not), to say that nurses don't work long hours is ridiculous and uninformed.
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An NP is a joke. It's an excuse to create more "doctors" without actually expanding medical seats, without putting medicare money into more residencies, and creating more workers who would suck up more $. Two NP salaries are equal to one doc's salary, so it makes sense to take nurses who have experience working with patients, give them a masters, and educate them on basic clinical decisions, and have them work under a supervising doc who they bump up to for more complex decisions.
But if you want to get your dying gall bladder excised out by an NP, or you want them to manage your heart failure when you're 82, then be my guest. I'll make an appointment with a real doc.
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^And if they're from England.
Okay...okay...bad joke.
being from England changes whole equation :)
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You're joking, right? I guess you're not aware of the nursing shortage.
Hence why they take anyone into nursing school. You can have a B/C avg in high school, and get into nursing somehow or another.
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Hence why they take anyone into nursing school. You can have a B/C avg in high school, and get into nursing somehow or another.
Maybe in America they allow average students to work with patients and become nurses, but that is not what I have observed here in Britain. I suppose that would depend on the country and their health system and given that the United States doesn't have much of a health system to speak of, that would make sense.
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so in Britain there is as much competition to get into nursing school by top students as it is for medical schools or even dental schools? I dont think that is the case. I am not sure if that matters though.
Now I dont think any profession is an 'embarrassment' although nurse role has been considered a female role, not just a desi thing (remember gaylord Fokker). Point being, if someone is looking to get married, aside from the compatibility with the individual, their earning ability or ability to have a career can be important, now what that is can be a matter of personal preferences, earning level and potential, growth potential etc are things that are looked at, and in that sense a nurse role checks out on all counts.
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As a nurse, you're not making complex decisions about anyone's health. Nor do you know pathophys of disease, and you probably aren't contributing in any way to medical research (not qual improvement crap, but real med research).
That's not disqualifying their efforts - they have a role to play, an important one, and they do it well, and they have great skills.
But putting a foley in someone just isn't the same as repairing someone's aorta. Sorry.
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An NP is a joke. It's an excuse to create more "doctors" without actually expanding medical seats, without putting medicare money into more residencies, and creating more workers who would suck up more $. Two NP salaries are equal to one doc's salary, so it makes sense to take nurses who have experience working with patients, give them a masters, and educate them on basic clinical decisions, and have them work under a supervising doc who they bump up to for more complex decisions.
But if you want to get your dying gall bladder excised out by an NP, or you want them to manage your heart failure when you're 82, then be my guest. I'll make an appointment with a real doc.
NP isn't a doctor, but how is it a joke? they have many years of training as well and are qualified to provide general health care. they cannot take out your gallbladder, NP can only assist surgeons. they donot have the same training as doctors and cannot replace them either. however, they help in filling the gaps. PA's also help out phsycians and can see patients and assist in surgeries. i guess they are a joke according to you as well. plenty of crappy doctors exist as well, who are just in it for the money and could care less about patients health.
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As a nurse, you're not making complex decisions about anyone's health. Nor do you know pathophys of disease, and you probably aren't contributing in any way to medical research (not qual improvement crap, but real med research).
That's not disqualifying their efforts - they have a role to play, an important one, and they do it well, and they have great skills.
But putting a foley in someone just isn't the same as repairing someone's aorta. Sorry.
Yes, Nurses are not AS qualified as a doctor. no denying that. But why is it better to choose an engineer rishta over a nurse?
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I personally wouldn't have the patience. Maybe I should be open to it, and I will likely consider it too. But I don't think I'd have the patience.
A couple good friends of mine married guys from back home, after long distance relationships with the guys. Both the guys are hard working and were successful there. It is taking them both time to get settled in their careers and it is extremely difficult for the wives. The wives knowingly took on the responsibility to be the breadwinner, but did not anticipate how long it would take their husbands. They are unable to start a family until the husbands are financially ready, so they feel that their lives have been paused.
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NP isn't a doctor, but how is it a joke? they have many years of training as well and are qualified to provide general health care. they cannot take out your gallbladder, NP can only assist surgeons. they donot have the same training as doctors and cannot replace them either. however, they help in filling the gaps. PA's also help out phsycians and can see patients and assist in surgeries. i guess they are a joke according to you as well. plenty of crappy doctors exist as well, who are just in it for the money and could care less about patients health.
NPs and PAs are midlevel providers and they have their own place in healthcare industry. But comparing their training and education to a physician is most certainly equivalent to a joke
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engineers have technical expertise of fixing magaz. a nut here and there
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Maybe in America they allow average students to work with patients and become nurses, but that is not what I have observed here in Britain. I suppose that would depend on the country and their health system and given that the United States doesn't have much of a health system to speak of, that would make sense.
I know it's not competitive here to get into nursing school but nursing itself is a very hard job and requires alot of patience. i have worked in a hospital (not as a nurse or doctor), and I have seen nurses get abused by patients
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Yes, Nurses are not AS qualified as a doctor. no denying that. But why is it better to choose an engineer rishta over a nurse?
Oh ho. I never said its better to choose an engineer over a nurse. Rather, the opposite was said. A NP assumed to make more money than a poor engineer (which is a fallacy, like others have said engineers can do pretty well), should be a better catch to women.
Hence coming back to my original point, is it all about the money? Because if a NP whose training is less, grades in school can be mediocre, and he/she isn't top in their class, but an engineer probably did pretty damn well in his/her science classes compared to future NP or anesthesist or PA, probably spent more time doing quality projects/leadership in school compared to future NP/PA, is a poorer option compared to future NP/PA, that decision is being made on a money comparison...rather than an education/talent comparison, then clearly why would we marry a man from Pakistan?
Oh right unless he's got potential to make some serious $$ here.