Would you be ok with Taliban Sharia in Pakistan?

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BTW

Why doesn't he protest the killings of innocent civilians by Taliban?

I Never heard him saying a single word ever against these killers.. protest door ki baat hai..

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I do not agree with his views on terrorism, however I do not agree with the media trial as well that has been going on against him for something he has no role in. His views are different than so called liberals, and in a democratic system that should be appreciated. The way liberals react to his views smack of fascism.

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Can Pakistani liberals question Pakistan Army which has created these monsters in the first place? Is Imran Khan responsible for TTP or the army?

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Ok..

But whatever his views are.. I don't mind if he is a conservative and not a liberal. But does it mean that innocent killings by ultra conservatives should not be condemned or pretested? Only killings of ultra conservatives should be condemned? Not a word should be uttered against ultra conservatives even if they resort to killing totally innocent citizens.

He wanted to negotiate with criminals.. and now we are negotiating with criminals on the way we should live in this country. Criminals-Killers are telling us what kind of religion we should follow.

I am a liberal.. please tell me where is fascism in all my above mentioned criticism of Mr. Khan. Which fact did I tell wrong? Correct me please..!!!

P.S. YES..I CRITICIZE THE ARMY FOR CREATING THIS MONSTERS… I AM NOT TRYING TO JUSTIFY ANY WRONG BY WHO-SO-EVER..

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I feel so nostalgic reading this thread, it seems like I've been reading and dreading about sudden coming of Talibanic Sharia law since last 13 years. Ah the good old Student Years. Memories. But oh well, looks like it's that time of the year again.

Let's talk about real meaningful stuff: How's the Spring festival going in Lahore, folks?

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Pakistani liberal? Blimey, anyone who wears jeans and speaks broken English with pathetic British or American accent is considered a 'liberal' in Pakistan, and I thought I was some Western born looney liberal hippie, but God, Pakistanis have some seriously messed up, uterrly confused, and embarrassing definition of liberalism. Now if anyone asks me if I'm liberal, I make a point of asking: do you mean Pakistani style 'liberal' or real liberal liberal?

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How would we explain this?

How many deaths will it take?

The Kukikhel tribesman from Tirah valley in Khyber Agency, where an operation has started recently, were asked to sign a go-ahead for a clean-up. According to them, there were no Taliban in their area. The head of the tribe refused to sign the paper. He said the Kukikhel did not let any Taliban in, and there was no need for an operation. A military operation involving gunships and F-16s will bring large scale destruction, and will be even worse than drone attacks. Some weeks later, hundreds of Taliban arrived in Tirah, occupied people’s homes, drove them out, and stole their belongings. The displaced families now live with their relatives in Peshawar, in camps in Kurram Agency, and in other parts of the country. An operation against the militants ensued. But the people of the area are convinced that it is a strategic move to infiltrate the Taliban into Afghanistan, ahead of the US withdrawal that will complete in 2014. Locals say Pakistan is still supporting certain militant groups to ensure it has influence in Afghanistan after the US withdrawal. - See more at: How many deaths will it take?

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We don't have spring festival in Lahore anymore. The conservatives think it's vulgar..!!!

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Simply you cannot play both sides of the court. Taleban are good or bad, even the army is not clear. If talebanic shariah is good for Afghanistan then there should be no issue for us too.

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Oh dear.

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I am not talking about you. Most of the journalists will find something to bash him with. Why does he want talks with TTP, when the army carries our out aerial strikes in NWA. Then it's why he is quiet over killing of innocents by the army (cross fire). No matter why he is answerable and not the powers be who have dragged us in this mess. I feel that by continuous Imran bashing we are just giving a clean slate to those responsible.

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Ali
I am also criticizing Imran Khan for failing to condemn the killers of innocent Pakistanis.. I am not saying he is responsible for the creation of these monsters. I don't think anyone of the journalist criticize him for creating these killers. You are right that he does not have official power (In KP although his party is ruling).. nut he is the leader of second largest political party in Pakistan. He is an opinion maker and holds a very important status as an important National Leader.

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I am personally critical of IK's stance on talibans and terrorism not just because he is one out of many who somehow side with talibans but because of his stupendous analysis of the problem. He posed as a visionary who can see through things and see far ahead in future, as a hope to the intellectuals and folks who can think and remained a silent majority for a long time. My blood boils when he quote examples of British incursions against tribal folks and when he talks the language of Munawar hassan and say that these guys took arms because of drone attacks etc. On the other hand, there are positive things about him. I think he is bold and unlike other politicians says what he thinks right in his heart.

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We know it was a charade. I don't know how people get lured by naive rumblings of this simpleton Taliban ka bhai.
i for one knew exactly what kind of person he is from day one. His solutions made zero sense. I was horrified when people believed his recipe for bringing peace with his terrorist brothers.

i know that he really is not a right winger. Rather his support to Taliban is only due to his extreme racist views where he sees Taliban Pashtun instead of seeing them as what they are, terrorists, enemies of Pakistan including enemies of Pashtun brothers.

This naive simpleton thinks Taliban can be persuaded to keep their barbaric shariat within the confines of FATA.

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Imran is a real foolhardy. Why he simply does not condemn Taliban and become a good guy? Rather, he is incurring wrath of the whole nation by pitching in for durable solutions. Stupid guy.

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durable solutions???

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Amal.. I guess I missed something..

Can you explain which durable solution Mr. Khan is giving by asking us to negotiate with killers and criminals?

Should we give in to all their demands?

Mr. Khan has always told us to stop military action against these animals. The military action has almost halted, even the US has indicated that they have stopped the drone campaign one the request of Pakistani government.. as per the aspirations of Mr. Khan. The terrorist are now free to speed up their killing spree which they have already done.

So this is the long term solution we should accept. Perhaps we should invest in hospitals and graveyards to implement long term Mr. Khan’s solution..

The latest glimpse of the durable solution:

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^^^ Mr. Khan is a demagogue who never had much credibility in politics, except maybe naives among us, and he is run on populist (anti-America/drones) agenda with phony piousness will come to an end, too. The question is will it be too late by then? He has hitched his wagon to train of destructive forces & if they succeed there wont be much left of the country. We have countless examples like Somalia, Afghanistan, Mali and now Syria before us.

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Perhaps this is not the definition of ‘negotiations’ Mr Khan was taught at Atchison and Oxford. Tragic, I must confess.

Peculiarly enough, I often wonder how Mr. Khan can come on national television and declare our nuclear armed forces incapable of fighting, or even winning the war, with utmost authority and confidence, yet not a single word of defence and face saving stint would come from our beloved armed forces. Strange, very strange indeed.

Surely, the silence, the lack of action and accountability from our armed forces suggest that perhaps they are in compelet agreement with Mr. Khan in his assessment. I am most certainly quite eager to learn why the armed forces feel no sense of responsibility, no loss of pride and a damaging attack on credibility over such fiendish remarks?

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Good point. Army does not need IK's permission to take out TTP. So either it's non-committal (playing a waiting game) or over-rated (my view) and simply incapable of wiping out TTP insurgents (in a conventional war)