would u alllow ur husband to cheat?

Please do enlighten us with your knowledge of such hadeeths and let us decide on how comfortable we are with it!

Diamonnd if you read my earlier post on this thread u would get it.

r.v i wasnt directing at u personaly as a perve accuser- although u have too like other guppans have supported this female ideology on gup.shup.

my posts are not personally directed at you...however it does seems that wherever or whenever i enter a thread on gup.shup in no short time you find i see u having to pop up forming an inclusive section to argue with me.

as i asserted in my above post. Im not advocating modern or past polygamous manly behaviour. Infact I possess a extreme dislikeing for it....to which i like raising the awareness of towards in answering to some extent the modern day popular social problem of women complaining about cheating/two timeing men.

and i read your given link above on the law of 4 wives.

well...and i found something related rather interesting

Prophet King Soloman (pbuh) had 700 wives and 300 concubines.


Now Would you kindly enlighten us what the Oxford citionary meaning and of Concubine means. And what are the purpose of concubines?

I would place a million pound bet if in todays time a man had not 300 but even 3 concubines....no women would stand short of calling him a perve.

why the double standards.....

once again im not advocating men with polygamous inclinations..

All im doing here is trying, to express thats its possible that such intrinsic natures of men have been there throughout time, including with thre prophets and pious personalites, as you see above.

So rather than shun men particular men or 90% of men, maybe and maybe this knowledge can benefit you, that maybe it is a partly a genetic problem.

and help answering to some extent the questions of such threads opened.

botom line:

I mean that as in the same way in every male and female the natural God-given sexual urges are present- it is possible that opposed to womens but monogamous, males have been additinally procreated with with polygamous urges.

Therefore the same way you see phenomenon on society of pre-marriage fornicating men and women, due to them being unable to contain the innate urges, it is very posible the ever increasing phenomenon in men being unable to contain themslves wtih single ladies could be similarly relating to the innate polygamous nature they possess.

In todays time, men and women are still the same as they were in since thier creation.
they have the same carnal desires as the men and women of earlier times, except that society and conditions have changed.
The legal and financial ease with which a man could have another women in the past, does not exist today. But as the carnal desires still exist, you see some men who succumb.

Maybe in simple terms.,..maybe this is partly why men cannot bloody contain themself, even after already having one girl for the the outlet....and the reason for somany of girls frustratiuons feeling cheated.

I dont like to quote this. But it is not uncommon 1400 years ago, pious sahabi personalities have upset thier wives i.e h.fatima by having extre-maritia;l relations.

There is are some sahah hadiths on H.Ali having had polygamnous s.relations in additon to his current wife. H.Fatima, to which he incurred complainst on to the Prophet (pbuh).
And the girl/girls he was involved with were not his wive whom he had to bear the burden of treating equally, they/she was his slave girl/s, similar as above to the one of KING SOLOMAN (pbuh) and his 300 concubines (PBUH) above.

And I think now i will have to quote the related hadiths very soon.

Lastly: If anybody find it hard to comprehand what im saying..please read me again slowly and carefully from the beggining, and my posts on the previous poge.

Im sure i have made myself clear.I hope i dont have to make myself clearer, because i have already recieved postive feedback on my posts from Women on this thread shwoing im doing ok, and for certain lacking individuals i am not going to keep repeating myself.

And my only purpose is to help this thread by pointing out the truth.

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Alrite Zaraa u asked for it!

And r.v is also going a bit too far..

I really did not want to have to do this... but...and May Allah forgive me for soon presenting such unfavoured facts.
Just watch this space! Time to get working
Lets c who needs comprehension lesson in 2 hours time.

uff, vhat complete utter nonsence! yaar seriosuly!

okay say i let my husband have sex with another woman. he gets her pregnant! now what should i do? allow him to remarry?

okay now he has 2 wives. both wives let him have sex with another woman. he gets her pregnant! okay now should we tell him to marry her aswell?

okay what if the women my husband sleeps with are married women? think of the children, husbands etc who could get hurt when it all goes wrong or the secret is let out?

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^ khoobsutrat collection u go girl....

but what i find surprising is that i have come across many and (decent) pakistani girls who do not seem as angry as they shud be on husbnds extra or pre marital affairs.

Its true...im curious...how comes some paki women are not that posesive about it.
Arnt women meant to be the same in this respect.

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maybe they dont know what to do about it because they are so hurt and confused.

maybe they have no where to turn to. some women simply cannot leave their cheating husbands because of kids, and because they know their parents will tell them to stay put in the marriage.

so many reasons. uff, so sad.

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Yhe…but still…when initally posed with the scenario or question they shud be red-faced.
A lot of women calmly dissuade it as something only as bad as drinking or gambling.
isnt it a naturally burning possesive feeloing that shud arise on every womens face.
a man wud never ever never everrrr tolerate even if his spoke about likeing another guy…relation is far off..

some ladies r so kind… :konfused:

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look what if those women have kids. maybe those women do not want to destroy their marriage and stay put for the sake of the kids. allah bless such women as this is indeed such a hard test.

sometimes hearing the news that your husband cheating on you can be such a shock that you show no reaction! maybe you want to forget it to prevent yourself from doing something bad.

some women have no choice and still love their husbands, are so terribly hurt but want to forgive them just to get rid of the pain.

some women get over it and dont care. each wife is different.

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beautiful collection;

im referring to non-married female pakistani females.
for some posed the scenario of thier husband being a player before marriage and possibly after is not viewed with that mcuh emotion or surprise.

some girls just seem to either be so innocent..maybe to what s.relation activity actully/explicity involves (more than the simple kissing seen on paki tv) or either they just seem to have already understood or accepted the fact that men are like that..no mans reality can be confirmed before or after marriage... so dont seem to give it that much importance.

easier said then done. you never know what you will end up doing in a situation like this until you are faced with it yourself. leaving is a difficult decision to make (for some) when they have children involved.

right on! :D

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That girl also cheats around her husband's back.

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i'll chop his balls off

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and then leave him

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^ don't forget to take his money!

ape**** ?

straight up dump him. cheating is a sign of great disrespect. but it requires less balls than communicating to your spouse that you have lost desire for them and want someone else.

if there are women that allow their men to cheat just so they have security then these men are also cheating because it is easier than divorcing their current wife and taking a new one (even polygamy requires more commitment than cheating)

so yeah...someone was right when they said such husbands and wives deserve each other. and no doubt, the kids sooner or later figure out the real deal between mom and dad. yay...one big messed up family. hey.. at least they look nuclear enough for family/friend gatherings :biggthumb

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Quick piece of info on the religion part dealing with slave women:

When Islam was revealed, it was done gradually. All of the laws were not laid down right from the beginning. They started as restrictions first, and warnings, then they became law. For example, Alcohol and other intoxicating substances, anything which gives you nasha is haram, but at first it was revealed to not come to prayer while intoxicated, then it was advised not to drink, then it was completely considered haram all together.

Same with sexuality/promiscuity. Before Islam, men did as they pleased with whomever they pleased. Islam then limited the number of wives to 4, and the sexual relationships with "those the right hand possesses" i.e. slave women. Then the ruling for Nikkah came, and men could have such relations only with women that they would give the rights of a wife to and treat justly. And then it was followed up with "it is better if you have one." And the reason for having more than one wife was only to provide for orphan children whose fathers had died during battle and so that the women would not have to go into prostitution, so therefore it would be better if someone put them under the shade of nikkah and provided for her and the orphaned children.

I see where you are coming from amir, but you are looking at all these quran quotes and hadith on a flat level plane, you should be looking at it in a chronological sense, and then it will make more sense to you and you will realize there is no need to feel sorry for us women, Allah swt has provided all the respect we deserve in our beautiful religion. It's just these stupid men who don't follow it properly that screw everything up, but they will get what's coming to them on the day of judgment, so i'm not too worried about that.

And ladies, lets educate ourselves about our religion so we don't get duped into thinking that it is unjust. Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.

Men aren't polygamous by nature, they crave sexual novelty-- this does not extend necessarily to other women. Men AND women by nature are programmed to seek stable relationships in regards to raising their young. And when I say stable, I mean mother and father together, not father and mother and father's other women. There is no excuse for cheating like that, not even nature condones it.

And actually, that would be raping slave women-- and Allah doesn't allow that. Good thing we have the Quran to provide us the correct info :)

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No way! If you're married, you're married. If you don't wanna live within the boundaries of marriage, then don't be married! And if he does it with her consent, then it's not cheating. It's an open marriage, and she's just in denial.

When you make a commitment and sign the marriage contract, you're bound to it's terms. Once you violate those terms, then the contract is no longer valid-- and in my opinion, the marriage is no longer valid either.

Furthermore, the likelihood of transmission of std's is too much of a risk to take.

Now, if the woman has no way to support herself or if her children would be taken away in a divorce, then I cannot fault her for staying. But a woman who would rather have creature comforts of a higher level and stay with a man because of that, is just a prostitute. And while I do not fault most prostitutes (say, 97% of them I do not judge poorly), they fall within the latter 3%.

Marriage should not be for survival of either partner. It should be based on compassion, trust and love. The two should grow together in all regards, not betray each other or use one another.

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Would we allow our men to cheat? Why in the world would any sane person willfully permit that?

But, women do indirectly allow their partners to cheat when they choose to forgive it.

Once kids are in the picture and you've invested so, so much into the relationship, it must be hard to break it all off upon discovering sexual dishonesty in marriage - especially since it's no longer unusual in this day and age.

But, tolerating adultery is just as disgusting as the act itself. If every woman understood and practiced this - men would be scared ****less of cheating on their wives today. But now they know, she'll come around, she's a softie so it's all good.

All you women saying you're going to do this to him and that to him, well no comment but all I can say is I really hope you can do one thing - be strong and say no to cheaters.