Women say if you were raped, it is your own fault

Tell me about it. Anyways we've established our point and they have sorta, kinda, maybe established theirs.....well not really but oh well, we'll let it go! ;)

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Yeh I know, exactly. Yeh let's.

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okay CHERRY .................., khair all i am saying is no one wants to get into and accident or be raped willingly right? what we can do on our part is take the necessary precautions and do our best, the thread starter asked a question and some of us said YES and some said NO whether the victim is to be blamed partially, its everyones own perception.

haha… thats exactly what i wanted to say when i went thru all posts. This thread is invaded by kiddos, it should be closed may be :hmmm:

Sara and Pareezay good job. Well done :k:

I agree with Aisha.

First of all i am not talking about the girls who are too drunk to know if it was a rape or consensual sex.

You can not blame the women for something that she had no control of.
and for all the people that are saying that she should have been more cautious, well how many women fear of getting raped everytime they walk outta their house or at a social event. It's ridiculous. What about all those young girls getting raped by adult men? is it still their fault? I mean for all the people that are saying that the women "can" prevent it, do we need to build this fear in our young girls and women so they can be sure. Most cases of rape have victims that got attacked by strangers. And a women can be wearing a hijab or a burka and yet still it would happen.
To me its equivalent to saying if some one gets murdered its their fault. They should be "careful"

One more thing, its a very serious matter.. victims of this abuse goes through a heck a lot and can never move on from it. So before we say anything, we should consider that.

One of my friends told me that she went out one night, got drunk as usual, and when she woke up the next morning she found a wedding ring on her finger :aq:

I blame no one but her …

We still don’t know what happened to her, where that wedding ring came from… rolls eyes

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In Western countries? Yes, it's partly women's fault (because of drinking and being indecent) but this crime is not justified in any case.

you know if you were a guy you would be more likely to rape a girl then any one else in this thread.

and as a girl you are much more likely to end up in unwanted situation with men.

slippery slope sara.

This reminds me a lot of the thread where a girl was complaining her boyfriend was verbally abusive towards her after she insulted Pakistan. Lots of people here were saying she deserved to be called names.

A person is responsible for their own behaviour and actions. They are not responsible for how other people decide to react and treat them. Why? because everybody has a choice. You can choose to become a violent psychopath or you can choose to behave like a normal human being.

I am quite disgusted at some of the posts in this thread, but then again, I'm not surprised given the mentality of the people here.

I agree with this. This is not to say that the rapist is any less guilty or that it's a valid reason to reduce his sentence. But I would also feel more sorry for someone who has it happen to them while taking all of the precautions than I would for someone who's knowingly putting themselves in a situation where it's more likely to happen to them, whom I would also partially put the blame on.

It's like if someone just leaves their wallet or purse out in the open in a public place and then while they are distracted for a moment, someone walks off with it. Even though the thief had no right to steal someone else's things, I would still partially blame the victim for being so careless.

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If I accidentally left my car unlocked , does it give the right to anyone out there to steal it ??? NO . And if he does , he should be punished . Right !!

Similarly , it is not fair to blame victim for her carelessness . A criminal is a criminal , no matter what .

On the other hand , yea one can show more responsibility to not to be in a situation that people can take advantage of her .

Yeh Aisha(Aishaaa2.1) makes a lot of sense:k:

No, but if you leave it unlocked purposely in a neighborhood where you would expect someone to steal it, then I would blame you for being careless.

Me being careless doesn't give anyone this right to be criminal .

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Not every rape is date rape. Most are not.

I agree. Still, being careless makes you partially responsible for the outcome.

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In pakitstan, first penetration is always some what forceful.
Between Bf/Gf.

Are you talking about child molestation/child sexual abuse, or statutory rape (a teenager girl having consensual sex with an older man)?

Your comment reminds me of the Roman Polanski case (google it if u dont know). Sadly so many celebrities were out supporting this guy...and one woman even said "it's not really rape-rape." The victim was 13 at the time it happened.

So no this mentality (which btw was a really messed up thing to say) sadly isn't limited to just Pakistanis/desis.

I suppose when the title and article stated if you were raped it is your own fault, situations such as a date rape were what they had in mind when coming to that conclusion..

But other situations, such as a burglary, kidnapping...there is no blame or responsibility on the victim whatsoever.

How dare you say such things about me? Just coz I spoke up about how it's always the guy's fault no matter how drunk the girl is, does not give you a right to make such sweeping statements about me. Watch it! And the moderators just sit there letting this guy say such crap about me? And I get infractions coz I talked back to a wedding moderator??

I too am disgusted at some of the posts on this thread and how people can just casually say the girl is to be 'blamed partially'. I have worked with rape victims and you people have NO idea the trauma they go through. It's the kind of situation where one only realizes it's intensity when god forbid, one actually experiences it.

Well said.