Women and Sex

[LegallyBrown]

Re: Women and Sex

@Impulse

and oh yeah…when you’re old with 30 something kids…do come on GS to let us know how ur getting on:k:

I duno where you live but here the Arab community is in abundance
The mother all dressed in shuttlecock black is a sight to see pushing a pram with three kids hanging off it followed by a line of kids in every size.

So there are some mentalities that will go ahead and have 30 kids which is blah

[Sadiyah]

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@Faisal

However, common sense says that if a wife publicly accuses her husband of not sexually satisfying her in the bed (or otherwise is not satisfying her physical needs), that is much more shameful for the husband than for the wife. In which situation, any normal man can possibly retaliate with his own spin on the issue that can include fiction attributed to the wife, e.g. assumed marital infidelity. Divorce can still occur but it will be very messy. It may just be easier and less painful to attribute a more generic reason for asking divorce e.g. "irreconciliable differences" or "incompatible personalities" or "general unhappiness" etc. That both partners know the real reason for divorce should be enough and need not be publicized.

Infertility of a woman should then also be kept a secret between the couple and not blabbed on to the entire khandan, mohalla, and to aira ghaira nattoo khaira.

I've yet to come across a desi case where the infertility on the husband's part has been exposed. On the contrary, an infertile woman is always announced and people find it acceptable that the husband should remarry.

Furthermore, the parents, khandan, mohalla, aira ghair nattoo khaira in our culture need to learn to mind their own business and not go around wondering/gossiping as to why someone is or isn't procreating.

[AnGeL_EyEs]

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@Sadiyah

Infertility of a woman should then also be kept a secret between the couple and not blabbed on to the entire khandan, mohalla, and to aira ghaira nattoo khaira.

I’ve yet to come across a desi case where the infertility on the husband’s part has been exposed. On the contrary, an infertile woman is always announced and people find it acceptable that the husband should remarry.

Furthermore, the parents, khandan, mohalla, aira ghair nattoo khaira in our culture need to learn to mind their own business and not go around wondering/gossiping as to why someone is or isn’t procreating.

:k:

[PyariCgudia]

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dump him.

[LuxuryItem]

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LegallyBrown first wrote…

**Im talking bout desires. **Roleplay. Whatever way the woman wants.

What if the man is Wham Bam Thanku Mam kinda guy.

What if he refuses to go down on the woman but demands oral every night himself.

Lacking creativity and spunk in the bedroom

LegallyBrown changed her tune…

Im talking bout basic sexual needs

** it doesnt even have to do with sex**
**what bout physical needs.

women like being held and hugged and cuddled**

The way you changed your tune LB, either:

a. you are very confused (from role-play to hugging & cuddling )

b. you are pandering to gupshup’s lowest common denominator in an effort to rally the male bashers in another male bashing thread.

I think it’s ‘b’, and it’s working.

[Afridi786]

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maybe she meant foreplay

[LegallyBrown]

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LI, i didnt change my tune, the second quote is in reply to someone else’s post to which i replied that

[K4plan]

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@Impulse

who says birth control isnt allowed? abortion is haram -true (Even thats allowed in certain circumstances for example when the womans life is in danger).

as far as birth control is concerned…its totally allowed. where does it say its not allowed. sperm is just some cells from ur body…its not a human so cant be murdered it only contains half the number of DNA that a human cell has…how can it then be a murder?

and contraception was even practiced in the Prophets(pbuh) time…corpus interruptus (?) -withdrawal. if you’re saying its not allowed…provide the evidence

and oh yeah…when you’re old with 30 something kids…do come on GS to let us know how ur getting on:k:

As I said earlier, I may be wrong and do need educating when it comes to guidance on sex and anything related. Is there any evidence to support your claim as to birth control being permitted? I’d appreciate that. I need enlightening.

Also don’t be immature and throw in personal sarcastic remarks at me. I did not say anywhere that I’m strict Islam follower, lovey. We are here strictly talking on what Islam states on sex and birth control not what I plan to do in my life. LOL at some ppl on this forum.

[bbung4]

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Some ppl juss huss and relish the chance for their wild voyeurs ad fantasies…

Thts **sad

**Yes sexual relations and intimacy IS important in a marriage, of course.

Many a a times its the main reason for getting married, along with others.

Hubby and wife should be nice, gently and LOVE-ING to each other, much.

If he cant or she cant satsfy, and that is needed- then its a definite divorce.

But if not a worry, then divorce is the LAST resort!

Husband and wife, should make love to each other, obviously, whenever EITHER one of them feels, as long as theyre morally HUMAN ans SANE

If not- thers plenty of animals and guns, like is done in Asia esp., anyway

The sadest thing, is those that practise singel sex- Its seriously nothing but GAY !

Ive just got into the UK, and Im knowin its a HUGE problem here.

Most of the times..its like for like.

The filthy woman gets and stays with the scum bag, lewd guy

Whats new! thats life…

[bbung4]

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k4plan,

I wouldnt be askin those questions in a serious manner to believe and follow in this or online forums.
Some, nay rather most people seem very sick and twisted here and there.

Study about it- Islam ONLY allowed and knew "withdrawal".

And the Prophet said I DONT PRACTISE THAT, as if God wants a child to be, it will be.

Misinformation in the 21st century. Its so known its like Santa now.

Thanks

[K4plan]

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@bbung4

k4plan,

I wouldnt be askin those questions in a serious manner to believe and follow in this or online forums. Some, nay rather most people seem very sick and twisted here and there.

Study about it- Islam ONLY allowed and knew "withdrawal".

And the Prophet said I DONT PRACTISE THAT, as if God wants a child to be, it will be.

Misinformation in the 21st century. Its so known its like Santa now.

Thanks

Yea I know what you mean, I do prefer to do my own research but since there is a debate up on the subject, I think it would be appropriate to put up some evidence to come up with a conclusion atleast and end this damn debate lol.

Exactly, if Islam only advised us to go by the withdrawal method, then how can everyone else be so sure to say that other forms of contraception are permissible? Also like you said 'if god wants a child to be, it will be'.. well with our fellow ppl finding ways to control child birth, I guess some of us will never know. lol (Oh and ppl don't attack me again, this is an opinion in regards to Islam and sex, not my way of life)

I agree witht he bolded section haha. 21st century has led us to believe that life is all about me,myself and I.

[bbung4]

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k4plan,

By all means.

But as you'll know as well as I..... people will ALWAYS twist to fit, their own likes/wants/beliefs and vice versa

OR why would religions EVER get corrupt?

Exactly. They ALWAYS DO!

I was in San Diego a bit ago, and seriously sick! Theres only ONE woman out of the lot of many, who is an ex-Miss USA btw, who hadnt slept around, and had her gay-lesbian rampages

Anyway- offtopic..I drifted

Wish you th best in your quest.

[gravity_killz]

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@Faisal

Assuming all normal solutions have been exhausted, such as communication (between husband and wife), impartial arbitrator, counseling etc, it should be ok for woman to demand divorce if the husband is not fulfilling his marital obligations. It should be ok from an Islamic standpoint, IMO, though I am not a mufti or anything, however....

However, common sense says that if a wife publicly accuses her husband of not sexually satisfying her in the bed (or otherwise is not satisfying her physical needs), that is much more shameful for the husband than for the wife. In which situation, any normal man can possibly retaliate with his own spin on the issue that can include fiction attributed to the wife, e.g. assumed marital infidelity. Divorce can still occur but it will be very messy. It may just be easier and less painful to attribute a more generic reason for asking divorce e.g. "irreconciliable differences" or "incompatible personalities" or "general unhappiness" etc. That both partners know the real reason for divorce should be enough and need not be publicized.

the best answer so far ... well said bro !

[Cool_Breeze]

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@Afridi786

^I'd rather have no sex and be with the person I love, than have meaningless sex with an endless amount of supermodels but that is just me, I'm sure some men and women feel the same. That is the point i was making..sex isn't everything.

SO RIGHT.
a lot of people don't get it though.

[Faisal]

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@Sadiyah

Infertility of a woman should then also be kept a secret between the couple and not blabbed on to the entire khandan, mohalla, and to aira ghaira nattoo khaira.

Information should only be provided on a need-to-know basis. If a couple has involved an arbitrator from either family or outside the family, then the arbitrator should be informed all the facts. However, the problem is that after a messy separation/divorce where husband and wife publicly fight, then both sides go around offering their spin on the issues. Part of it is to show the world, "see how reasonable I am, but the other party has issues. Poor ol' me".

@Sadiyah

I've yet to come across a desi case where the infertility on the husband's part has been exposed. On the contrary, an infertile woman is always announced and people find it acceptable that the husband should remarry.

I know of one case where a divorce was announced because husband was infertile. However, generally I think reasons of divorce, especially when they pertains to intimate matters should best be handled with discretion. However, if there is a known infertility in any person, that fact should/must be shared with anyone who is contemplating marriage with the person. I think its a monstrous omission to not inform about known infertility. "Shaadi honay do, baad mein batta dein gay - Allah behtar karay ga" is really no excuse.

@Sadiyah

Furthermore, the parents, khandan, mohalla, aira ghair nattoo khaira in our culture need to learn to mind their own business and not go around wondering/gossiping as to why someone is or isn't procreating.

People talk anyway. You can't change everyone, so lets focus on what we CAN control - our own circle of influence. Don't worry about others.

[skhan]

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Of course it's within a woman's moral and islamic rights to ask for a divorce for that reason. How often that actually happens is another matter.

We are getting a bit confused here. There is a difference between being impotent and just being lousy in bed.

The type LB is talking about are the lazy, frigid and the prudes. They should walk around with labels, so they marry their own kind.

[Faisal]

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Being impotent is a fact that can be medically established.
Being lousy in bed is merely a personal opinion.

What one considers as prudish, another may considering bordering on nymphomania.

[singerz_delight]

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..Sex and love making is a neccessity for man and woman both for mental
and physical health.

Love making / sex is like sports da more you do it the better you get at it…

But type and quality and frequency of any action is upto us…yes upto us.
how we eat sit love when where we please and if we dont like it what we
have then we have da rite to make changes its allowed and is legal for both
men & woman… Me i am flexible … when i marry…
there will ofcourse be few exceptions like .. sickness health and physical ability. … but just to leave your spouse cause you are not having as much
FUN doing as he is seems to me like a thought of a sick mind. There one must
seek THERAPY . … Yes there is marriage counselling and Shrinks for dat

[Naughty_by_Nature]

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In terms of the topic i think these problems wont arise if a woman or man hasnt had any physical relations before marriage...

In that if you havent experienced much then you will have nothing to comapre it with...for instance if as a girl you have had sex with loads of men then you will know if someone isnt satisfying you...thats the disadvantage...

With a girl that hasnt had sex before...shes not gonna know either way...whatever you do is going to be her benchmark...if shes never been down on before for instance...shes gonna love whatever you do for her...but if she'd never had it before you wouldnt even know about it...

Its the same with men aswell...certain girls do certain things very well...point is i know if i was only ever with one girl then i wouldnt have complaints...its only after being with quite a few...which makes you fussier and more aware of what satisfies you...that you begin to become dis-satisfied if that makes sense...

So if like my best friend you have only had sex with one partner it makes life a lot easier...the more you go round the block the harder it is to be satisfied...

Sara
A topic is being discussed about sex and unlike people who theorise on things which is what a lot of people do...i am bringing an example of personal experience...im not spotuing irrelevant information...anything i say is related to the subject matter being discussed...

And as for me worrying about my own sins...thats cool...i know my deal...i just dont like hypocrytes and will put my foot down...i only bring things up when i think people are acting stupid...Impulse attacked me in this thread...i finalised our discussion in the other thread...

[TeraDulha]

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this is why....u shouldnt get laid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but i think women arent that stupid...if the guy is runnin it like minute...and before she gets warmed up hes done...i think she knows then that minute man should go....lol