Re: Wives warning / threatening their husbands not to keep a beard
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From what I have read, there were MANY rakats and many namazes and in the time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH, they were shortened/condensed to make it easy for the Ummah. Therefore, I don't think there are any fixed rakats mentioned in the Quran.
thats true..the numerical part is just an affirmation..
The topic of the thread is "wives threatening/warning husbands to keep beard". Thats just plain wrong no matter what your take happens to be as far as religion. Forcing someone or using threats even if its a husband or a wife is plain wrong no matter how you slice it. If you want a bearded husband then marry one who HAS a beard and MAKE SURE he plans to keep it if its that important to you. Me? I married a good person. He's attactive with a beard, he's attractive without one. He is always clean and nicely dressed but most of all, he is a GOOD man and that is what matters to me. Dont you have better things to worry about than the length of facial hair on your husbands?
but mamaof3 the whole desi daytime soap opera depends on the length of the facial hair ..
truely sad indeed...
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I want to shave my beard, but my wife does/nt let me.
When I was told about beard being part of sunnah for the first time in 2000, I was totally shocked. Firstly, never did I ever hear such a thing in my PAF school and college books. Secondly, I didn't know anyone among my relatives who had a beard, except for my grand father who died in 1994. I didn't believe anyone but started my own research in order to prove it wrong. My intentions were to search for the excuses to not keep a beard because my father, a very strict airforce general, would never allow me to keep a beard. After all the research for 2 years, I couldn't justify it to be wrong. I was frustrated, because I had totally lost in forcing my heart to accept that it was just a tradition which doesn't have much importance in Islam.
When I decided to keep it, as expected the worst pressure was from my father. I swear by Allah (swt) no one else was able to pressurize me even a bit of how much my father did. I had to remain respectful to him and at the same time defend this sunnah. After one and a half year I couldn't resist the intense criticizm from him and shaved off my beard with an intention that parent's respect has more value in Islam than this sunnah.
No mullah or religious person ever forced me to keep a beard again. But my inner voice kept cursing me. I was able to overcome my inner voice and indulge my self in other activities in life till the time I saw a dream. After I saw the most respectful person of all in my dream, I couldn't give more sleeping pills to my heart. The first thing which came to my mind was: You are not doing any favor to yourself or your parents by letting them become a source of your not following a sunnah.
I totally believe a dua can change people's mind and heart. When my father saw me taking this step again, he was shocked. He started doing his own research and finally Allah (swt) blessed me with a day when he came to me and told me that he is convinced that a Muslim man must have beard.
I am thankful to Allah (swt) for blessing my family with the truth. One of my brother also kept a beard and now our family is more inclined towards their religious duties then they were before.
If a person keeps a beard "ONLY" with the intention of following a sunnah, then only he knows how many evils are removed from his life, after he decides to follow a sunnah which is for 24 hours a day, in a time about which the prophet (saw) said. A time would come when keeping a single sunnah alive would mean to hold fire in your hand and at that time whoever would keep my one sunnah alive would get the sawab of 100 shaheeds.
No one can list down its positive impacts on a person's personality (if followed sincerely and humbly) unless he tries it himself. A beard has similar impact on a man how hijaab has on a woman. I might be wrong in a lot of places. Only Allah knows best.
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^Brother STP, when my husband told me he was growing a beard, even I was shocked. He was starting to hifz the Quran and I should have expected the beard but for some reason, it totally took me off by surprise because it was the first in his family. And of course, me being a desi and having the mindset that a beard doesn't look good and bla bla, I asked him why he was keeping it and he told me it was wajib. I stayed quiet but after a few days I brought it up to him again and that's when he explained it all to me, showed me the hadiths/texts and that's how I learnt all about it. Before that, all my life I thought it was something 'optional'.
Freedom lies in the choice to keep a beard..Allah has not ordered his Ummah to keep one. *no one is discussing freedom to practice religion...
The beard is not part of practicing religion, whether someone wants to keep it because our Prophet (pbuh) had one is a personal choice ...I am not sure at what point in history it became part of 'practicing religion'
Everything that is made Fard on Muslims is mentioned in the Quran. I find it disturbing, over and over again, by the claims of multiple texts/people making multiple things fard on the Ummah. Who has authorized them? Authentic or not, who decides??
chanda, u remind me so much of my dad and hubby.. lol
and i agree with u.... i dont understand how people get "personal choice" and "farz" mixed up..
It disturbs me that people think that keeping a beard in the name of religion is ok.. its a personal choice that shouldnt have anything to do with religion.
u cant do things in the name of religion... u do things either because they are farz or ur personal choice.. simple
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OUR Prophet Muhammad (saww). Someone pasted the hadith already.
pb......Hadiths were not even authorized by our Prophet....let alone Allah Ta'ala...they were complied long after Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) passed away...despite his warnings....
I read them as reference....as a piece of history.....without placing it parallel with the word of Allah..because that would be shirk....i dont think anything or anyone represents our Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) better than the Quran..not bukhari...not anyone else...
2ndly..i dont even know who this Rashad fellow is..i dont know who brought him up in this discussion....
guys i dont want to offend anyone..and i dont want to discuss this further..instead of asking me questions concerning the whys/whos/wheres....the best thing to do is to read the Quran with an open heart.. for better understanding and guidance....
chanda, u remind me so much of my dad and hubby.. lol
and i agree with u.... i dont understand how people get "personal choice" and "farz" mixed up..
It disturbs me that people think that keeping a beard in the name of religion is ok.. its a personal choice that shouldnt have anything to do with religion.
u cant do things in the name of religion... u do things either because they are farz or ur personal choice.. simple
lol...i know...beard does not=signature of hafiz-e-quran...it has nothing to do with being religious..or being pious...it has nothing to do with the love for our Prophet...if you love him..be kind to the orphans, the women..the poor...the sick...be considerate to others' problems..if you love him do what Allah has asked you to do....because that was the purpose of his life...to spread the word of Allah.......if you love him...carry respect in your heart at all times.....and be on guard around your ill-wishers...his love should lead us towards becoming better Muslims...
Beshak...May Allah guide us to the right path..Ameen!
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^ correct...
i could go on about a lot of things that people do in the name of Islam.. but i wont cus i know of the backlash.. so to each their own.
beared or not bearded, hijabed or non-hijabed... people should just try to be the best they can and carry the love of Allah in their heart and spread goodness..
dont over complicate Islam..
^Brother STP, when my husband told me he was growing a beard, even I was shocked. He was starting to hifz the Quran and I should have expected the beard but for some reason, it totally took me off by surprise because it was the first in his family. And of course, me being a desi and having the mindset that a beard doesn't look good and bla bla, I asked him why he was keeping it and he told me it was wajib. I stayed quiet but after a few days I brought it up to him again and that's when he explained it all to me, showed me the hadiths/texts and that's how I learnt all about it. Before that, all my life I thought it was something 'optional'.
Prophet (SAW) cannot make anything farz/wajib just by saying it. People with some kind of agenda put those words in Prophets mouth. Only Allah has the power to make anything fard/wajib.
Anybody who thinks other wise is committing shirk by giving same level of powers to Prophet as Allah(SWT). If it is not in Quran in it is not wahi simple, all the Wahies are in Quran. People try to prove otherwise with the help of twisted logic. Yes it is said in Quran that follow what Allah(SWT) says and follow Allah(SWT)'s Messenger(SAW). It is in reference to many things which were in Quran and people did not understand so Prophet explained it to them. Showed to them by doing. But if something goes beyond what is in Quran , those are words people put in Prophet(SAW)'s mouth based on some personal agenda in the name of religion . I find it very disturbing that in his lifetime Allah's Rasool (SAW) might have said many things and might have done many things consistently but only one thing, beard, is mentioned as one that is declared Wajib . There is nothing else in Islam which our Holy Prophet did consistently to the point that it is wajib for us ? What about miswaak , he did miswaak consistently and told us to miswaak on regular basis but nobody cares about it and it is not considered a fard/wajib. Why ? Tooth brushing cannot be substitute of miswaak. If it is then a fake beard should serve the purpose too. Does it ?
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I think there has been enough information posted in this thread regarding the importance of keeping a beard. I believe in and stand by what I said, if you have different views, they won't change how I think. However, I am still respectful towards those views because everyone's perception of religion can differ. I am not here to force anyone to like beards or grow one, I am only sharing what I think about it. Peace.
exactly..i dont know why people are having a hard time believing this?!! I have said this on literally every page of this thread… 
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Shay my husband also said something similar to what your husband said. My husband attends weekly mehfils, to do zikar etc and ppl always 'taunt' him that he does not have a beard etc...........as everyone else there does. He sometimes gets annoyed or thinks shall i keep a beard, but i think others shouldnt taunt someone who hasn't or has.
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^I know. My husband went through the same thing in university when he would attend the lectures, zikars, etc and people would constantly ask him why he does not have a beard. Even when he started to hifz, they kept asking him but I am happy he didn't do it due to 'pressure'... he would tell them that he WANTS to keep one but will do so when he's 'ready'. I think that was the time when he was seriously debating all aspects of it and then finally decided to go for it. Alot of his friends are very religious but don't have a beard, he doesn't judge them or tell them to grow one, he respects however they are.
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I really don't want to get into this thread too much just to avoid conflicts. All I'd like to say is that we, the comman man (or let me say woman) do not have the ability or education to translate the Qur'an without the help of qualified aalims and ulema. Yes, the Qur'an is indeed a complete book with guidelines and rules, dos and don'ts, etc., but the Prophet was sent down to us as a messenger to relay the Word of Allah (swt). As a muslim, I am obligated to believe in the nabi (pbuh) as it is clearly stated in the shahadah. Since you and I cannot understand Qur'an's each and every ayah, I say it is safer to follow the sunnah of the Prophet. I don't think anyone is claiming that Allah or his Word are at the same level as the Prophet. At the same time we cannot reject the sunnah.
Borther Mirch, beard is wajib, like witr salat. Eating khajoor and using miswaak are not wajib but they are highly recommended acts.
However, having a beard is one's personal choice and as a wife I would hate to ask my husband to keep a beard considering that I do not wear hijab. That would be very hypocritical. However, if he is comfortable having one, like Shay's husband, I would encourage him.
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it has nothing to do with the love for our Prophet
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I dont know, I think it can have something to do with love for the Prophet peace be upon him, but does not necessarily have to have anything to do with it, if you know what I mean. Like just because a man has a beard it does not automatically mean that his heart is exploding with love for Rasool Allah pbuh, because of course even nonMuslims have beards and even the Prophet's enemies had beards. But someone can grow a beard, out of love for the Prophet, to follow his way. Like if we look around us today, we see the different icons and celebrities and sports figures that guys and girls adore, take as role models, look up to, want to be like. They think these people are so cool and so amazing and so whatever, so they try to act like them and also dress like them. Why else would anyone pay what they do for clothes, perfume, shoes etc endorsed by these people. So going back to what I was saying, I think we can understand beard in the same way too. For a man who loves the Prophet pbuh, he might want to show the depth of his love through his actions, by following the example of the Prophet pbuh, as you rightly mentioned chanda, like fulfilling the fard obligations, being kind, helpful, compassionate and respectful, being charitable and truthful and humble...etc. So in other words taking him as your role model, because he was and is the best example for us, of how to live our life, how to please Allah and how to come closer to Allah. Again, Im not saying that if a man has a beard it automatically means he is a great Muslim and truly loves the Prophet pbuh and any man who doesnt have one, he doesnt really love him ---Im just saying how having a beard can have something to do with love for the Prophet pbuh and love for his sunnah
What I meant to say is that it is up to an individual to make that choice. I would not like to be the one to force my husband to have a beard. I think it wouldn’t be fair.
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2ndly..i dont even know who this Rashad fellow is..i dont know who brought him up in this discussion....
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The article you posted, about how our prayers are passed down to us from Prophet Ibrahim, its from the "Submitters" website, who follow the teachings of Rashad Khalifa