encouraged by who?
Sahih Bukhari, *Volume 7, Book 72, Number 781: *
Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said, "Cut the moustaches short and leave the beard (as it is)."
encouraged by who?
OUR Prophet Muhammad (saww). Someone pasted the hadith already.
Alhamdulillah my hubby has a beard too and I love it. I would never tell him to take it off, but I do always help him to maintain it and keep it well groomed :)
Actually there is a clear hadith in which the Prophet pbuh said to the Muslim men grow your beard and trim your moustache..I think STP has already posed that hadith. I dont think anyone is saying that having a beard automatically makes you a great Muslim or gurantees your admission to Jannah or makes you levels above every other nonbearded Muslim guy. But it is from the Sunnah and to follow the Sunnah is part of faith. T*here is an ayah in the Quran in which Allah tells the Prophet to tell the Muslims, that if you love me then follow me and Allah will love you and forgive your sins*. So we should not ever belittle the matter of following the Sunnah, even if it is something as small as cleaning your teeth with a miswaak stick :)
The Ayah..I am very familiar with, and it is used by people promoting texts that they think are authentic and contain 'valid' stories concerning our Prophet.
This particular Ayah refers to Allah telling the Ummah to listen to the Messenger(pbuh) as he brings the word of Allah..not any other word...Strictly the Quran...
I am baffled by the use of this Ayah...Astaghfarrullah..... :( it doesnt refer to the maswaq or the beard..or the shalwar..or anything else...it talks about Allah ordering people to listen to the Prophet(pbuh) as the Quran was being Nazil.
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If you don't follow the Sunnah then we are just going around in circles.
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I follow Allah and our Prophet(pbhu) which is equal to one=Quran.
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Where did you learn how to pray Salah?
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^ Do you mean Quran only, as opposed to Quran and authentic teachings from hadith and sunnah? Because yes the explicit command for growing the beard is from hadith. But we also learn how to pray our five daily prayers from hadith, as PB mentioned, the Quran does command us to pray but HOW to pray we learn from FOLLOWING the example of the Prophet pbuh
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The Ayah..I am very familiar with, and it is used by people promoting texts that they think are authentic and contain 'valid' stories concerning our Prophet.
This particular Ayah refers to Allah telling the Ummah to listen to the Messenger(pbuh) as he brings the word of Allah..not any other word...Strictly the Quran...
I am baffled by the use of this Ayah...Astaghfarrullah..... :( it doesnt refer to the maswaq or the beard..or the shalwar..or anything else...it talks about Allah ordering people to listen to the Prophet(pbuh) as the Quran was being Nazil.
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Chanda, I didnt mean to suggest that this ayah in itself is explicitly saying that you must grow a beard and use miswak! I only meant it to show the importance of following the Sunnah, and the connection to faith in doing so
Anyways, I am typing the follow from Tafsir Ibn Kathir, volume 2, the tafsir of ayah 31 from Surah al Imran, as explains the matter clearly for us:
(3:31) Say (O Muhammad to mankind): If you (really) love Allah, then follow me (i.e. Muhammad) , Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful
(3:32) Say: "Obey Allah and the Messenger." but if they turn away, then Allah does not like the disbelievers
Allah's Love is Attained by Following the Messenger pbuh
This honorable ayah judges against those who claim to love Allah, yet do not follow the way of Muhammad pbuh. Such people are not true in their clain until they follow the Shariah (law) of Muhammad pbuh and his religion in all his statements, actions and conditions. It is recorded in the Sahih that the Messenger of Allah pbuh said, "Whoever commits an act that does not confirm with our matter (religion), then it will be rejected of him."
This is why Allah says here,*** "Say (O Muhammad to mankind): If you (really) love Allah, then follow me (i.e. Muhammad) , Allah will love you..."*** meaning, what you will earn is much more than what you sought in loving Him, for Allah will love you. Al Hasan Al Basri and everal scholars among the Salaf commented, "Some people claimed that they love Allah. So Allah tested them with this ayah: "Say (O Muhammad to mankind): If you (really) love Allah, then follow me (i.e. Muhammad) , Allah will love you..."
Allah then said, "Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful", meaning by your following the Messenger obuh, you will earn all this with the blessing of his mission. Allah next commands everyone, "Say: "Obey Allah and the Messenger." but if they turn away" by defying the Prophet pbuh "then Allah does not like the disbelievers", thus testifying that defiance of the Messenger's way constitutes kufr. Indeed, Allah does not like whoever does this, even if he claims that he loves Allah and seeks a means of approach to Him, unless and until, he follows the unlettered Prophet, the Final Messenger pbuh from Allah to the two creations: mankind and the jinn. This is the Prophet pbuh who, if the previous Prophets and mighty Messengers were to have been alive during his time, they would have no choice but to follow, obey him and abide by his Law.
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I really dont think you guys should say the QURAN doesnt tell you the details of Salah!!! How can Allah not tell his Ummah about the most important part of your Religion!!
Where can we find Salat in the Quran?
When Abraham implored God in [14:40], he did not ask for wealth or health; the gift he implored for was: "Please God, make me one who observes the contact prayers."
The religious duties instituted by God are in fact a great gift from Him. They constitute the nourishment required for the growth and development of our Souls. Belief in God does not by itself guarantee our redemption; we must also nourish our souls [6:158], [10:90-92]. Additionally, [15:99] states that observing the religious duties instituted by God is our means of attaining certainty: "Worship your Lord in order to attain certainty."
We learn from [2:37] that we can establish contact with God by uttering the specific Arabic words given to us by God in Sura 1, the Key, which is a combination of sounds that unlocks the door between us and God:
**1. The Dawn Prayer must be observed during two hours before sunrise [11:114], [24:58].
The Noon Prayer is due when the sun declines from its highest point at noon [17:78].
The Afternoon Prayer can be observed during the 3-4 hours preceding sunset [2:238].
The Sunset Prayer is due after sunset [11:114].
The Night Prayer can be observed after the twilight disappears from the sky [24:58].
The Friday noon congregational prayer is an obligatory duty of every Submitting man and woman [62:9]. Failure to observe the Friday Prayer is a gross offense.**
Each contact prayer is valid if observed anytime during the period it becomes due until the next prayer becomes due. Once missed, a given contact prayer is a missed opportunity that cannot be made up; one can only repent and ask forgiveness. The five prayers consist of 2, 4, 4, 3, and 4 units (Rak'ahs), respectively.
The Quran teaches us that Abraham is the founder of Islam as it is practiced today. All religious practices, including the contact prayer, were given to the Prophet Abraham and passed on to us generation after generation. The majority of Muslims always ask, how can these practices come to us from Abraham and not from Muhammad. They do not trust that God Almighty can preserve His own religious practices (rituals). They do not know that, the Hadith and Sunna books do not have enough information about how to perform Salat, the number of Rakaat (units), or what to say in them.
Not a single time, was the prophet Muhammad reported as telling the people, let me tell you how to perform your Salat prayers, or let me tell you the number of Rakaat in the prayers. The Prophet Muhammad and the people before him were given the ways to pray, which were already handed down from Abraham through generations of believers who kept the prayers intact as God promised. God would not have told Muhammad to follow the religion of Abraham if no one knew or practiced that religion.
In other words, all religious practices in Islam existed long before Muhammad. Muhammad's sole mission was to deliver the Quran.
"Your ONLY mission (O Muhammad) is to deliver (Quran), while it is we who will call them to account." [13:40]
"You (O Muhammad) have no duty EXCEPT delivering (Quran)." [42:48]
"The messenger has no function EXCEPT delivering (Quran)..." [5:99]
The proof that Salat was already established through Abraham is found in [8:35], [9:54], [16:123], [21:73].
This most important duty in Islam (Submission) has been so severely distorted that the contact prayers (Salat) have become a practice in idolatry for the vast majority of Muslims. Although the Quran commands that our contact prayers must be devoted to God alone [20:14], [39:3, 45], today's Muslims insist on commemorating "Muhammad and his family" and "Abraham and his family" during their prayers. This renders the prayers null and void [39:65].
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Number of bowing (Ruku’), prostration (Sujood), and tashahud
[10] One of the common challenges…is: “If the Quran is complete and fully detailed (as claimed in [6:19, 38, 114], where are the details of the Contact Prayers?”
These people ask this question because they are not aware that the Quran informs us that the Contact Prayers came from Abraham ([21:73] [22:78]. If we write down the numbers of the prayers with their bowings, prostrations and Tashahhuds, we get:
1 1 2 2 4 1 2 4 4 8 2 3 4 4 8 2 4 3 3 6 2 5 4 4 8 2
This long number consists of the sura that we recite in the 5 prayers
(1) followed by the number of the first prayer (1), then the number of “Keys” that we recite in this prayer (2), then the number of bowings (Ruku) (2), then the number of prostrations (4), then the number of Tashahhuds (in the sitting position) (1), then the number of the second prayer (2), then the number of "Keys" that we recite in the second prayer (4), then the number of bowings (Ruku) in this prayer (4), then the number of prostrations (8), then the number of Tashahhuds (2), then the number of the third prayer (3), and so on to the last prayer. This long number is a multiple of 19, and this confirms the minutest details of the prayers, even in the number of Ruku`, Sujud, and Tashahhud.
**What to say during the bowing
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[22:77] “O you who believe, you shall bow, prostrate, worship your Lord, and work righteousness, that you may succeed.”
See also, 2:43, 2:125, 5:55, 9:112, 22:26 and 48:29.
For falling prostrate also see; 3:113, 4:102, 7:206, 13:15, 15:98, 16:49, 17:107, 19:58, 22:18, 25:64, 41:37, 48:29, 53:62, 76:26, and 96:19,
**What to say when we bow down: (Subhana Rabbya Al-Azeem), can be found in 56:74
[56:74] "You shall glorify the name of your Lord, the Great. ’ (Fa-Sabbeh Be-Ism Rabbeka Al-Azeem)**
What to say when you get up from bowing
“Sami-a Allahu Le-man Hamedahu” (God hears those who praise Him)
[3:38] "That is when Zachariah implored his Lord: “My Lord, grant me such a good child; You are the Hearer of the prayers.”
AND,
[52:48] “You shall steadfastly persevere in carrying out your Lord’s command - you are in our eyes - and glorify and praise your Lord when you get up.”
What to say during the prostration
"Subhana Rabbya Al-A’ala " can be found in 87:1
[87:1] “Glorify the name of your Lord, the Most High.” (Sabbeh Ism Rabbeka Al-A’ala)
Shahada (Tashahhod)
La Elaha Ella Allah (There is no god besides God).
The Shahada recited after the prostration of the second Rakaat and at the end of the prayers can be found in 3:18. This is the Shahada of God, the angels and those who possess knowledge. The Shahada of the hypocrites can be found in 63:1
[3:18] “GOD bears witness that there is no god except He, (La Elaha Ella Ho, Ho in reference to God, Allah ) and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.”
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Conclusion**
There is no dispute concerning the number of units (rak`ahs) in all five daily prayers enjoined by God for Abraham and his followers. They are universally accepted to be 2, 4, 4, 3, and 4 units. The Quran deals only with practices that were distorted, for example, the tone voice during the contact prayer.
Other additional units practiced by the traditional Muslims are disputed and vary according to different sects (from none to as many as 10 units per prayer). These extra prayers are considered Sunna, something that Prophet Muhammad was claimed to have done. However, establishing religious rites that are not authorized by God is a gross offense. Prophet Muhammad or any messenger of God would never disobey God by adding or even slightly changing anything that God had enjoined them to do. People who follow these practices not only disobey God, but they also make the religion difficult for themselves, and for their children. God tells us in the Quran that He does not want hardship for us:
[22:78] “He has chosen you and placed no hardship on you in practicing your religion…”
Even after showing all this Quranic evidence to those who do not believe God, you will note that they insist on their ways. After all that they may ask you again ; “Where are the details of salat prayers in the Quran?” Until they decide to believe their Creator in His repeated assertions that the Quran is complete, perfect and fully detailed, they can never see the Quranic truth. This is documented in 18:57:
[18:57] “Who is more wicked than one who is reminded of the verses of His Lord, then disregard them, while unaware of his sin ? Consequently, we place shields on their hearts, to prevent them from understanding (Quran), and deafness in their ears. Thus, if you invite them to the guidance, they can never ever be guided.”
- “Your ONLY mission (O Muhammad) is to deliver (Quran), while it is we who will call them to account.” 13:40
“You (O Muhammad) have no duty EXCEPT delivering (Quran).” 42:48
“The messenger has no function EXCEPT delivering (Quran)…” 5:99 *
Salat was there before Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)..hence no one can take credit for instructing Salat except of Allah alone.
The concept of salat was distorted…then the Quran was sent to correct the mistakes.
“O Mary (Mariam), you shall obey your Lord, and shall prostrate and bow down with those who bow down.” 3:43
“(Jesus said) God has made me blessed wherever I go, and He commanded me to observe the SALAT PRAYERS and ZAKAT charity for as long as I live.” 19:31
^ Do you mean Quran only, as opposed to Quran and authentic teachings from hadith and sunnah? Because yes the explicit command for growing the beard is from hadith. But we also learn how to pray our five daily prayers from hadith, as PB mentioned, the Quran does command us to pray but HOW to pray we learn from FOLLOWING the example of the Prophet pbuh
How to pray salah has was passed down by generations....from the time of Abraham(pbuh)....its not from the Hadith.
ok wow I dont know why my posts are being formatted so weirdly!! Let me delete and try again!
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The five prayers consist of 2, 4, 4, 3, and 4 units (Rak'ahs), respectively.
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They are universally accepted to be 2, 4, 4, 3, and 4 units.
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This is mentioned to us in the Quran?
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Not a single time, was the prophet Muhammad reported as telling the people, let me tell you how to perform your Salat prayers, or let me tell you the number of Rakaat in the prayers
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Except perhaps for the time when the Prophet pbuh said, "Pray as you have seen me praying" (hadith found in Sahih Bukhari)
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the numerical part is a mathematical conformation of the information from the Quran
the methodology has been passed down from the time of Abraham (pbuh).
Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) followed what was already there, with the corrections mentioned in the Quran. Then he asked his followers to pray in the CORRECT manner, so his Ummah did not make any mistakes this time...yet again...unfortunately...we have improvised Salah for our own satisfaction...instead of Allah's satisfaction.
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How to pray salah has was passed down by generations....from the time of Abraham(pbuh)....its not from the Hadith
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So where was this knowledge preserved? "Submitters" also say that the 2.5% payment of Zakat is from teachings passed down to us from Prophet Ibrahim, but where is this knowledge preserved for them if they reject the hadith as its source
Anyways Chanda, I dont mean to offend you or anything, but if you are taking these articles from the submitters website, the people who reject all hadith and follow the teachings of Rashad Khalifa, then I dont really see any point in continuing this discussion...........
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I really dont know how else to make the point that Quran is the complete Book....it even says in the Quran..that people will ask for more..and more...i guess..this is it..
Any Need for Hadith? *
By Dr. Khalid Alvi
From time to time questions are raised about the significance of Hadith, as a pretext to reject the Sunnah. Why should we Muslims attach such importance to Hadith when we already have the Qur'an, the very word of Allah? Why should we seek guidance in anything other than it? Dr. Khalid Alvi here explains the authority and position of Hadith in Islam.
To deal with this topic it is necessary to know the position of the Prophet in Islam, because the indispensability of Hadith depends upon the position of the Prophet.
Analyzing the problem we can visualize three possibilities:
The duty of the Prophet was only to convey the message, and nothing more was required from him.
He had not only to convey the message, but also to act upon it and to explain it. But all that was for the specified period, and after his death the Qur'an is sufficient to guide humanity.
No doubt he had to convey the divine message, but it was also his duty to act upon it and to explain it to the people. His actions and explanations are a source of guidance forever. His sayings, actions, practices, and explanations are a source of light for every Muslim in every age.
Muslim scholars are of the unanimous view that only the third point is the correct assessment of the Prophet's position in Islam. The Qur'an contains dozens of reminders of the important position of the Prophet. For instance, the Qur'an says:
And verily in the Messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the last day and remembereth Allah much.
According to this verse, every Muslim is bound to have the good example of the Prophet as an ideal in life. In another verse, he has been made a hakam (judge) for the Muslims by Allah Almighty. No one remains Muslim if he does not accept the Prophet's decisions and judgments:
While explaining the qualities of Muslims, the Qur'an says:
In many places, the Qur'an has given its verdict on this issue. The Qur'an says, Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and, Whatever the Messenger giveth you, take it, and whatever he forbiddeth, abstain from it.
The Qur'an is very clear in expressing its view on the position of the Prophet. According to the Qur'an, the Prophet has four capacities, and he must be obeyed in every capacity. He is mu`alim wa murabbi (teacher and educator); he explains the Book; he is a judge; and he is a ruler. In all these capacities, he is an ideal example for the Muslims. I am quoting a few verses of the Qur'an just to give a hint of this topic.
In all these verses, the Qur'an has explained various aspects of the Prophet's personality. One can judge the importance of the Prophet from these verses. I am reminded of another important verse of the Qur'an, which is actually a verdict against those who do not believe in Hadith as an authentic source of law:
The Qur'an, while pressing the Muslims to obey the Prophet, goes a step further when it announces that the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is above all the limitations of time and space. He is the Last Prophet and is a Messenger of Allah for the whole of humanity for all time to come. Hadith is nothing but a reflection of the personality of the Prophet, who is to be obeyed at every cost.
Any student of the Qur'an will see that the Qur'an generally deals with the broad principles or essentials of religion, going into details in very rare cases. The details were generously supplied by the Prophet himself, either by showing in his practice how an injunction is to be carried out, or by giving an explanation in words. The Sunnah or Hadith of the Prophet was not, as is generally supposed, a thing of which the need may have been felt only after his death, for it was very much needed in his lifetime. The two most important religious institutions of Islam are Prayer and zakah; yet when the injunction relating to Prayer and zakah were delivered—and they were repeatedly revealed in both Makkah and Madinah—no details were supplied. “Keep up Prayers” is the Qur'anic injunction, and it was the Prophet himself who, by his own actions, gave details of the Prayer and said, “Pray as you see me praying.”
Payment of zakah is, again, an injunction frequently repeated in the Qur'an, yet it was the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) who gave the rules and regulations for its payment and collection. These are but two examples, but since Islam covers the entire sphere of human activities, hundreds of points had to be explained by the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) by his example in action and in words.
The scholars have discussed the question of Hadith in detail as a wahyun khafiy (hidden revelation) and prophetic wisdom. I do not want to go into details, but one thing must be stated clearly, that there were cases when the Prophet, not having received a revelation, made a personal effort to formulate opinion through his own wisdom, which was either to be approved or corrected through revelation. After all, the importance of the Sunnah, even as a second source of Islam, was a settled issue for the Companions of the Prophet. I quote only one of the many examples: that of Mu`az ibn Jabal who said to the Prophet that he would decide according to the Sunnah if he did not find the solution of a problem in the Book. To quote Dr. Hamidullah:
The importance of Hadith is increased for the Muslim by the fact that the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) not only taught, but took the opportunity of putting his teachings into practice in all the important affairs of life. He lived for twenty three years after his appointment as the Messenger of Allah. He endowed his community with a religion, which he scrupulously practiced himself. He founded a state, which he administered as the supreme head, maintaining internal peace and order, heading armies for external defense, judging and deciding the litigations of his subjects, punishing the criminals, and legislating in all walks of life. He married and left a model of family life. Another important fact is that he did not declare himself to be above the ordinary law which he imposed on others. His practice was not mere private conduct, but a detailed interpretation and application of his teachings. ( Introduction to Islam, p. 23)
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From what I have read, there were MANY rakats and many namazes and in the time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH, they were shortened/condensed to make it easy for the Ummah. Therefore, I don't think there are any fixed rakats mentioned in the Quran.
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The topic of the thread is "wives threatening/warning husbands to keep beard". Thats just plain wrong no matter what your take happens to be as far as religion. Forcing someone or using threats even if its a husband or a wife is plain wrong no matter how you slice it. If you want a bearded husband then marry one who HAS a beard and MAKE SURE he plans to keep it if its that important to you. Me? I married a good person. He's attactive with a beard, he's attractive without one. He is always clean and nicely dressed but most of all, he is a GOOD man and that is what matters to me. Dont you have better things to worry about than the length of facial hair on your husbands?