why should we adjust?

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hannibal- you may have a point there actualy. but its a long list of things that frustrate me about this country. we are so caught up in pakistan zindabad mentality that we cant see its faults and act on them, i feel as if im insulting someones mother when i talk about the lack of facilities and etc in pakistan. the lack of bijli, economy, bombings, environment, is all there. why is t easeir to adjust to western countries than it is to adjust back home in pak.

my MIL has a rare disease, and theres NO specialist in pak for her. while theres a whole organisation in the uk. just for her own health she should come with us and get treated there, cost isnt an issue, the fact that theres not one doc in pak,who knows it, is absurd. her doctor comes from india to diagnose her, plus hes in karachi which is 24 hour s away.
but yet they still hell bent on not going. so can someone tell me how to ppersudade them slowly to come with us.....forgetting my own reasons aside for the time, just thinking of her own treatment....she has SLE.

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3 years from now Pakistan is going to be one of the hottest economies in the world, with huge infrastructure projects. then its going to be the place to be. just saying. what you say about Pak is obviously correct.

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so nadz u did not find a single docyor In wholE pakistan who can treat and diagnose SLE? Yaar this really is not fair but if i remember correctly while doing wards in our 4th year in yet another pathetic hospital (RGH) in pindi our professor diagnosed a pt with SLE and we spent a whole day wth that pt n i must say the doc was doing a good job of treating her oh arent pindi and islamabad adjacent to each other?
n bahan g havent anybody told u that ur homeland is like ur mother n yes we pakistanis do get offended when someone says bad things abt our motherland ...i agree there r issues but u r not the only one who lives there so stop complaining n if u cant plz get the ......out of thr
one thing more u talk abt SLE so u must ve read abt it dont u know that for sle patients rest is so important n inspite of that ur mil takes care of ur daughter n does all the work for her husband dont u feel ashamed? wat do u do all day?
the easiest way to make ur husband move to uk is dont come back when u go for ur delivery n ask hubby to come n get u when he goes there just hide his passport n force him to stay n ull live happily ever after..............

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^Bad Advise of hiding passport.This will create tensions b/w the couple.
She commited to her husband before marriage and she knew that she will have to go to Pak at some point.

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are you high?

in 3 years time Pakistan is going to be going the way of Iraq.

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If he's high for making that statement, you probably made this statement few milliseconds before passing out!

There may not be a guarantee that Pakistan will become a better place in three years but to say it'll become another Iraq is pathetically idiotic and beyond any sense of reality.

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oops! how could i forget that!

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Really? Do you know anything about American foreign policy? Do you know what they have been planning for Pakistan for the last few decades? It's of utmost strategic importance. Nothing that has been happening in the country is unplanned. Go do some research about the increase the permanent American bases in all the -stan countries that have appeared in the last 10 years. Not to mention Obama's escalation of the operations in Pakistan as soon as he came into office. This has nothing to do with 'the war on terror'.

I was being a bit facetious with that remark but there is a lot more to come for Pakistan yet.

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e.g. Afghan president confirms US demand for permanent bases - World Socialist Web Site

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Why people who don’t live in pakistan are so worked up over what happens in pakistan anyways?? its going to the ****ter or not…whats it to them? :konfused:

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Thanks for the newsflash but thankfully americans are not gods, and non-americans are not sitting idly twiddling their thumbs. if americans are taking a few 100s of steps to create their hegemony, then others are taking at least 10s of their own to thwart that effort. who wins remains to be seen.

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indeed. pakistan has its place, caught in the middle.

p.s. those who don't read anything beyond the mass media do need a newsflash.

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I'm glad you did your research, good for you. Despite all that patronising in your posts I fail to see anything that Pakistanis don't seem to already know about?

These Iraq/Afghanistan teases for Pakistan will always sound moronic no matter how they're said, invading/attacking a country with 110 nuclear warheads with sophisticated and efficient military might is not a child's play, and thats the bottom line!

We may be incompetent in policy making but we're certainly not incapable when it comes to defending ourselves. Its only a matter of time before the Americans finally wake the sleeping giant.

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Like they aren't handing everything over on a plate. Whose military is it. Lets see these massive improvements in 3 years time or even 10years time.

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i feel for your husband, now you are using her mom's disease to go to UK... and since when you have developed feeling for you MIL??? it amazes me how much mean people can be...

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I know someone who is suffering from this disease for many years now and she has been getting treatment from Agha Khan Hospital. It can be a good idea to get her medical treatment from UK but it can be very expensive. I really hope she feels better soon and gets the appropriate medical attention.

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Both should adjust their lifestyle to achieve the standard of their mutual role model, because that is the ultimate and unobjectionable standard. Anything that leads to it, good, anything that takes us away from it, bad.

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We made plenty of mistakes in last ten years, no doubt about that. But some people really need to get out of their slave mentality and realize that Americans are no God! The region belongs to us, our army is trained to the core to guard every nook and corner of the area. Anyone who thinks Pakistan army can't play dirty with the Americans is living in a fools land. We've been involved in Afghanistan issue for far too long to not realise that dangers and advantages, friends and foes, way ins and outs of this conflict. Its a real world, just like the Americans are taking baby steps towards pushing the war in Pakistan, we too are taking our time in gathering ourselves for an ultimate answer back.

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Rome wasn't built in a day!

It took centuries for UK, USA and Europe to become where they are today. Maybe a new topic for your research.

If we can have smooth change of governments for next election, that itself will be considered a huge improvement. The media and judiciary are all set for playing their role in getting the best out of the next general elections, provided we don't get marital law or any shahdats before that.

Pakistan is massively loaded with potential, we just need a right leadership to guide the nation. And sometimes it only takes one good government or leader to set the nation on the right path for generations to come. InshAllah we will have our day.

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Stoppit was just stating her opinion and it’s hardly getting ‘worked up.’.. This is called a FORUM and everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether they actually live back in Pakistan or not..

Why so defensive anyway? Are you so insecure that you can’t handle any criticism or different point of view?? If you don’t agree with her why not try countering what she said with an actual answer containing logic or reasoning or is that something you’re not even capable of?

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and what the hell is your problem?? i didn't even mention that i was referring to stoppit..........and at least didn't say anything to you......

unless i say anything to you directly...why don't u mind your own business??

to re-iterate what you yourself said.......
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........ so i did too........

and about the unbold part.........

i don't need you to tell me how to put forward my opinion or reply........

'actual answer' containing 'logic and reasoning' is for me to decide....i know what i am capable of and also what you are capable of.... at least i know...my 'logic' and 'reasoning' doesn't contain references of researches from tabloid newspapers......and attacking someone personally........

you obviously have a lot of growing up to do............besides your OCD fixation to pop in every thread in which i make a post...and make personal remarks instead of discussing the topic............ i hope you get over it....and get well soon.