Pashtuns waged their own war of independence. Muslim League, also called Motor League because of its domination by British allied fudals, Sirs, Nawabs, etc., had little following there.
You'll need to explain this to me, because it makes no sense. What is divide knowledge? If by Mutalia Pakistan you mean in the historical study sense, then yes, it's a part of Pashtun history..I do not care what brand of Islam you follow, if you happen to think the formation of a country is unislamic, then Afghanistan too should be sliced up. I can assure you that almost all true Pushtoons I know are very pro Pakistani (i'm not talking about the thousands of Indian dravidians that call themselves Pashtoon, or the mixed up ones).
You're also very wrong that there was no Pashtoon following in NWFP for the Muslim League during Pakistan's formation. A referendum was taken in the NWFP to choose either Pakistan or India, and Pakistan was chosen. With the exception of one or two Indian nationalists like yourself, who consider yourself to have Pashtoon ancestry, noone really cares about Pashtoonistan.
Last is right here, pashtuns waged the war on their own front, how else cna you explain the fact that the admired pakhtun leaders were against the ideas of Pakistan? I mean come on, Faqir-i-ipi, Farkhre Afghan Bacha Khan, etc they were all well respected PAKHTUN/AFGHAN leaders, yet they supported Pakhtun/Afghan unity. Can any of you name proper legitmiate Pakhtun leaders who supported the idea or infact were against lar bar yao Pakhtun/afghan unity. The britishers created the durand line to cut right at the heartlands of Pakhtun/afghan land, we hav suffered from it greatly, to accept this is like a big nail in the coffin for pakhtuns.
He was not a traitor sine pakistan didnt come into action until 1945's. How can you get away with suh stupidity, my God. Bacha Khans movement started roughly after Bach-e-saqao got into power when Ghazi Amanullah was overthrown. Oh yeh jinnah never prayer, drank wine and ate pork. Look how many tenets he broke.
Yeh you are right there, I thknk it was for common interest. I disagree with certain things that Bacha Khan did, however I owuld never call him a traitor, esspecially since he introduced such a revolutionary idea to the Pakhtun/Afghan people. He also spent thirty years in prison and exile. How many leaders can give such sacrifices. NWFP boycotted the referendum, and in the end the choice was between Pakistan and India. There was no autonomous Pakhtunistan or Afghanistan choice. If there was, which nation would trade in being a majority status in the country named after them and has its history, for a new born country where it would one of the minorities? Come on, the british purposely never returned the land, purely out of cold war politics. It would naiive to think otherwise. Oh yeh give me reference to the 9 to 1, not that I dont believe you, I just want it for a personal read.
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P.S. The daughter of bacha khan never married a hindu. As far as I remmmber, I cna oly recall Ghani Khan married a parsi, who converted. Where did you get this info, the onl leader who I remember had a daughter marry a non-muslim was jinnah's daughter (no disrespect to Jinnah).
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za de kohat na yama tor panri nawi kali ke wosegama..(sorry admins but i have to tell him in pashto because he doubt me being from nwfp)
anyways brother i am not aware of any pakhtun/pashtun who worked for the formation of pakistan though when the british were preparing for an offensive on tera, pashtuns from my tribe and afridis were out to resist them..
plus wel said LastOfTheDinosaurs der kha wrora..you are right unity can only ensure safety of pashtuns. being divided into parts just to make the guided moslems of subcontinent happy will further promote the agenda of regional and global powers thus affecting pashtun lives directly and indirectly..kho kash ke tolo pukhtano sta pa shant fikar wai
Why have only a small minority of Pashtuns (and that too only in the FATA) ever taken up arms against Pakistan?
Why are Pashtuns throughout Pakistan happy to pay pay taxes to Pakistan, to join the Frontier Force, and to join the paramilitary groups like South Waziristan rifles?
There's never been any kind of uprising or resistance in Peshawar, the biggest concentration of Pashtuns in the world.
I apoligize to post this; this is not actually against Pathans. All of the cultures have bad problems including Punjabis, Sindhis and Bolochis. We are not naming to all cultures. A good person has nothing to do with his/her culture or religion. I hope nobody glares at my post. I just stated a FACT!
so if a Pasthun called himself Pakistani then he is mature otherwise he is not wow well i will always be immature then :)
Afghan is synonymous for Pasthun it has nothing to do with living in one country or another .
She left Islam, and Quaid e Azam left her.
Everyone is responsible for his/her own decisions. Neither Quaid nor anyone else can be held responsible for actions of their relatives.
One may have accused Quaid if he had endorsed the marriage, but he didn’t.
Well then why couldnt the personwho said such a lie, and uttered such foolish rubbish not use that? I mean the tables changed all of sudden when Jinnah came in, plus the the person who posted it hasn't even abcked it up lol. Oh eyh Afghan as an ethnic meaning is for pashtun, however when one is talking about Afghan as in the sense of a modern day inhabitant of Afghanistan then that is another case. All pashtuns are afghans, the ountry is irrelevant since this identity has been used before both these countries ever came into existence.
Pashtuns from your tribe might have been out to resist them..but you personally didnt do anything..so stop bigging yourself up. You might be Pashtun or Pakhtun whatever you want to call yourself, but I personally do not know anyone like you if you are anti Pakistan and such a nationalist. You should just move out from Pakistani NWFP into Afghanistan.
Also, writing a bit of Pashto doesnt mean anything. You can look up those grammatically incorrect words on the internet. In fact you can learn it from here
^ what has that anything to do with me being involved?and relax ok? there is nothing to be rude about.. i am just giving you an historical account it was not only my tribe but several other tribes who fought the britishers..try to refute my arguments with proofs and facts if you have any ,if you dont know than go educate urself..
now tell me, here you are doubting all the pashtuns who doesnt have a slave mindset like you ,actually you are the one who is claiming to be one and speaking on behalf of them but you are not, or you must be one of those mixed breed or a hindkae claiming to be a pashtun..za wrak sha da khar zoya ta sok ye che mata waye zama pukhto kha na da ? go learn pashto urself than come back and talk to me,...you personally dont know anyone like me because you dont have any relations with pashtuns ..NWFP is where i belong its my homeland why dont you move out some where to lahore if you hate us so much?
Aren’t you a bit confused here Mr Orakzyi star?? You are the one who created a thread with a title: "Why Pashtuns should accept Pakistan?" You are the one with hatered in your heart so maybe you need to move to Afghanistan where Tajiks, Uzbeks etc will welcome you with both hands (YOU WISH!!!)
Afghans claim about 50% of Pakistan simply because this is the area where Pashtuns live. Afghans say that since Pashtun=Afghan, therefore all Pashtuns should join Afghanistan.
But the reality is not such simple. Afghanistan comprises not just of Pashtuns but also three other nationalities, and these nationalities have NOTHING in common with Pashtuns save religion. Their race, language, culture is all different from each other.
So if Afghanis claim Pakistani area based on their being Pashtun then why don't they give up their own non-Pashtun areas as well? Why are they drooling on Pakistan and not looking at their own backyard?
Tajiks and pashtuns are both iranic, speak iranian languages, and were zorastrian prior to islam and are muslim now. I am no fan of NA, but lets call a spade a spade.
