Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
very cynical ideas will not help. the nation is aware of its risks and is aware of its risks both inner and outer.
something which will help, is to have all the risks measured.
best,
Dushwari
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^ So they came and told you that they are all from corrupt backgrounds. I must salute your determination to prove that apart from Mush the rest of 160 million are corrupt. Wow.
Hmmm! And I thought most of those 160 millions are supporting President Musharraf by not coming on the streets.
Wasn't that the topic of this thread? That why people are not coming on the streets!
Oh man! some people are just too prejudiced to even see the title. They just want to vent their misdirected mischievous anger everywhere.
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Hmmm! And I thought most of those 160 millions are supporting President Musharraf by not coming on the streets.
Wasn't that the topic of this thread? That why people are not coming on the streets!
Oh man! some people are just too prejudiced to even see the title. They just want to vent their misdirected mischievous anger everywhere.
If you had bothered to read some of my previous posts here I did agree that a president who gets 95% of the votes cast is in the same league in popularity as Mubarik and saddam and you can see that even in those countries people do not come out on streets because of the love they have for their president.
man some people are so eager to defend the indefensible that they just vent their misdirected mischievous anger everywhere without thinking what they are posting.
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If you had bothered to read some of my previous posts here I did agree that a president who gets 95% of the votes cast is in the same league in popularity as Mubarik and saddam and you can see that even in those countries people do not come out on streets because of the love they have for their president.
man some people are so eager to defend the indefensible that they just vent their misdirected mischievous anger everywhere without thinking what they are posting.
FYI. This is thread is not about President Musharraf.
This instead is a discussion about 160 million people not coming on the streets. Kapeesh!
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And who do you think the 160 million are suppose not to come out on the streets for? Please enlighten me. Please do?
Jawab nahin mila toh thread derail karnay chaley. 
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Brother, it seems you do nor read and still comment. Than whey you write irrelevant and someone points out, you get upset. Why don’t you ring BB and get new advice, advice to read and then comment :).
Can’t you read and understand that what I and many wrote here is that most of 160 million people are not with politicians, rather feel horrid even when thinking of them, and they are finding hope with their present life, under present government and under President Musharraf. And that is why they are not coming on road.
As for you comparing with Saddam and Mubbarak, it shows your ridiculous ignorance. In Iraq of Saddam and Egypt of Mubbarak, no media was/is allowed to write anything against the government, but as for Pakistan under Musharraf, media was lying and doing propaganda against government bases on those lies, and they were allowed to do that throughout Musharraf rule. Even today, after emergency, Pakistan media is more independent than all Muslim countries and most third world countries (even many western countries), and are spreading lies against government unchecked, without fear for their life, property, well being or prosecution.
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People have little kids or old parents to take care of, they cannot afford to be "missing" for years.
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Brother, it seems you do nor read and still comment. Than whey you write irrelevant and someone points out, you get upset. Why don't you ring BB and get new advice, advice to read and then comment :).
Can't you read and understand that what I and many wrote here is that most of 160 million people are not with politicians, rather feel horrid even when thinking of them, and they are finding hope with their present life, under present government and under President Musharraf.
I dont need to ring BB, unlike you who rings ISI every time to get instructions as to what to write here and than come and write 70 lines of nothing.
My main point which you totally ignored was that how come you are so quick to make judgements about other people. Anyone who criticises musharraf is from corrupt background. Who gives you the authority to call other people corrupt. ever thought about that?
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I dont need to ring BB, unlike you who rings ISI every time to get instructions as to what to write here and than come and write 70 lines of nothing.
My main point which you totally ignored was that how come you are so quick to make judgements about other people. Anyone who criticises musharraf is from corrupt background. Who gives you the authority to call other people corrupt. ever thought about that?
I make judgments about other people? If you read the post you would not have made that statement. I wrote that Ayaz Amir gave 5 categories of people that are against Musharraf: They are: Superior judiciary, the legal community, the media, political activists and students (from upscale schools and colleges).
Now, I believe that all of them Ayaz Amir mentioned 'except students' are mostly corrupt. In Pakistan Judiciary, lawyers, people of media, and political activities are amongst most corrupt communities of Pakistan (and most know that). Students are not corrupt, but since he specified the background of students, it shows that those students who are against Musharraf are also from corrupt background. The reason I have given in my previous post.
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And who do you think the 160 million are suppose not to come out on the streets for?
And your question is?
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And your question is?
Brother, if you hit your head on wall than nothing would happen to wall neither wall would fall, you will only get headache :D
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Hmmm! And I thought most of those 160 millions are supporting President Musharraf by not coming on the streets.
I asked before, how many million people came out on streets against NS last government when Pakistan was bankrupt and "aasmaan toot ke gir raha thaa"?
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So that's all there's left to it, or is that all we're willing or capable of?
*Saving *Pakistan on facebook, blogs, GS?
We havent even interpreted what "saving means" and who it needs to be "saved" from the most...
God forbid if *Pakistan *or its *existence *is ever in dire straits all we'd do is blog, post and poke...?
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Bhaijan, that is because Pakistanis can now do this.
This is due to the Unprcedented Economic and Technological development Pakistan has seen under President Musharaf’s leadership. There are now unprecdented amount of computers in Pakistan, and people that have disposable income to be able to afford them. :k:
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I asked before, how many million people came out on streets against NS last government when Pakistan was bankrupt and "aasmaan toot ke gir raha thaa"?
Actually that is really valid point!
What you are saying that 160 million people did not come on the street but somehow Prime Minister NS government was overthrown.
And now 160 million people are not on the street, so why don't we overthrow President Muhsarraf's government?
Is that right?
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Actually that is really valid point!
What you are saying that 160 million people did not come on the street but somehow Prime Minister NS government was overthrown.
And now 160 million people are not on the street, so why don't we overthrow President Muhsarraf's government?
Is that right?
Not really, though my question was straight and simple but since u r Mushy supporter u needed to twist it around ... let write down sloooowly.Since there were no protests when Pakistan was bankrupt, "aasman toot ke gir raha thaa" then why are some people looking for protests as the only measure of people 'for' or 'against' it?
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Tum sab mil ker - mujhey pa-pu-lur ker doo :)
We still trying to find out the answer of simple question? Bhai people did not come out coz they dont want to ...they don't see any BETTER alternative to Mush .... Jaisa hai Jahaan hai ... kuch na kuch tu ker raha hai :)
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Tum sab mil ker - mujhey pa-pu-lur ker doo :)
We still trying to find out the answer of simple question? Bhai people did not come out coz they dont want to ...they don't see any BETTER alternative to Mush .... Jaisa hai Jahaan hai ... kuch na kuch tu ker raha hai :)
well that also means that people did not come out against BB twice and NS twice also because they didn't see any BETTER alternative. Come up with something more solid to support the dictator who has had to impose emergency and resort to brutal actions to save his kursi. If he is that popular ask him to lift the emergency and face the public. Can he? of course he can't.
Here is another challenge. Let both the CJ Ifti and Mush walk down the street unprotected and see who will be fetted by people and who will be lynched. That is the fear of the power crazy dictator and that is why he declared emergency. Truth is bitter. :)
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Here is another challenge. Let both the CJ Ifti and Mush walk down the street unprotected and see who will be fetted by people and who will be lynched. That is the fear of the power crazy dictator and that is why he declared emergency. Truth is bitter. :)
and the challenge will show that people care more about biases than letter of the law...
that shows that public mob mentality can not be trusted anyways. after all it was a mob that slapped imran around, and if a mob is going to lynch one person because of him geting in power thru illegal means yet worship another who got in power thru illegal means then it just shows that the people are letting their bias get in the way.
Indeed truth is bitter.
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and the challenge will show that people care more about biases than letter of the law...
that shows that public mob mentality can not be trusted anyways. after all it was a mob that slapped imran around, and if a mob is going to lynch one person because of him geting in power thru illegal means yet worship another who got in power thru illegal means then it just shows that the people are letting their bias get in the way.
Indeed truth is bitter.
Well the measure here is that because people have not come out on the streets Mush is popular. So what law and what bias?
Yes truth is bitter for his supporters.