Re: The Muted response to Emergency measure.
one thread for useless cry was not enough?
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=268633
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
when any nation worship their 2-min fame gods n goddesses then they are made to wander, as you are.
^my this message is for the **police **this time
p.s. bhook to bardast hum logoon nay kabhi kerna he nahi seekhi. 
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
I think people need to come onto the streets and protest against maulvis and militantism. A maulvi's place is in the masjid and preaching ACCURATELY from the Quran and PEACEFULLY. If these rotten airheads can't figure that out, Pakistanis need to come out onto the streets and teach the *******s a lesson.
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
I think people need to come onto the streets and protest against maulvis and militantism. A maulvi's place is in the masjid and preaching ACCURATELY from the Quran and PEACEFULLY. If these rotten airheads can't figure that out, Pakistanis need to come out onto the streets and teach the *******s a lesson.
Yup, I agree. Extremism is the No.1 enemy of Pakistan, and all people need to rise up against it.
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
Yup, I agree. Extremism is the No.1 enemy of Pakistan, and all people need to rise up against it.
Isn't BB the saviour of Pakistan and will eradicate this menace?
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
The public are not affected by Emergency, so feel no need to come out against it.
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The muted response to Emergency measures imposed by General Pervez Musharraf is worrying many in Pakistan. Unlike in the past, when thousands emerged to combat extra-constitutional measures, this time round the people have largely kept off the streets. “One would have expected more people on the roads. But the streets are empty,” laments Nazish Brohi, a human rights activist. Brohi says that she has attended at least 12 public protests in the past week, but in almost all of them attendance was very thin.
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Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
The public are not affected by Emergency, so feel no need to come out against it.
I see. So people like BB are just trying to cause anarchy for no reason?
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
I see. So people like BB are just trying to cause anarchy for no reason?
Yup, but she is not achieving much success.
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
One reason being being they think it will result in either bibi or nawaz being back in power which they dont want
The other being the brutal attack on peaceful mobs by the police, they dont even spare o level kids
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
Yup, but she is not achieving much success.
Why is that then. She always said that she was the most popular leader in Pakistan with the ability to bring masses on to the streets? Isn't that true then?
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
There will be elections soon, so whats the point of coming out on the streets and asking for elections.
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
The public are not affected by Emergency, so feel no need to come out against it.
How many rallies were going on pre Oct 8, 1999?
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
Why is that then. She always said that she was the most popular leader in Pakistan with the ability to bring masses on to the streets? Isn't that true then?
I don't see the masses on the streets of Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Lahore which she has visited over the last week. In fact in her home ditrict of Larkana oout of 2 million people, only 4000 people turned out to greet her, and this after reports that anti-BB graffiti was daubed on her father's grave. The people of Pakistan are not going to come out on the streets for twice tried and failed leaders like BB or Nawaz Sharif.
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
^ lol do you know how current govt bring the masses on the street? 
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
There will be elections soon, so whats the point of coming out on the streets and asking for elections.
There is a difference between free and fair elections and sham rigged elections under the watchful guise of the drill master.
As for people not coming out on the streets, I am surprised not one of the drill masters "Mush can do no wrong he is above making mistakes" supporters have not told us yet that obviously he is so popular that he got 95% of the votes cast in the recent elections to get himself elected while in wardi. This is no mean feat, only Mubarak and Saddam can claim such popularity. No wonder people are not coming out on to the streets, just like they never come out on the streets in Egypt and Iraq due to the love of their leader. We see everyday that the minority of people who dare come out are brutally dealt with by Musharrafs supporters everywhere in Pakistan.
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
I don't see the masses on the streets of Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Lahore
I know you can't answer and like to run away from answers for which you can't find anything on Google ... once again, how many rallies were there pre-Oct 8, 1999 when Pakistan was bankrupt, everything was bad, "aasman toot ke gir raha thaa"?
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
Facebookers, bloggers fight Pakistan emergency
](http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i64vTXHkRTFOIpXrpl843N6QpPtw)
ISLAMABAD (AFP) — Defying a growing crackdown on dissent by President Pervez Musharraf, young Pakistanis are using blogs and social networking sites such as Facebook to hit back at a state of emergency.
Plans for “flash” protests in Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore and other cities are being posted at the last minute to skirt a ban on all political rallies under repressive emergency laws.
The Internet has become a vital tool for them, with the government shutting down the country’s biggest two private television news channels on Sunday and rounding up thousands of opposition leaders.
“We are coordinating protests with other universities across Pakistan using Facebook, using blogs, cellphones and text messages,” Ahmad, a student in his 20s from Lahore, told AFP.
He asked that his full name not be used in case he is traced by the authorities. Protesters can face jail if found guilty of inciting unrest, especially since Musharraf ruled that civilians can be tried in army courts.
“We let students know through Facebook groups and blogs when the protests are taking place. We are having flash protests for five or ten minutes so we do not get caught,” he said.
“But the authorities have also been monitoring movies that have been sent to CNN I-Reports so they can identify the students involved,” he said, referring to a interactive reports on the international news network.
So far most protests have been small, but last week they escalated when 3,000 students from Lahore’s Punjab university turned out for two days running to protest against the arrest of cricket legend Imran Khan.
The most popular Facebook protest group for Pakistan is “We Oppose Emergency in Pakistan”, which had 11,471 members as of Sunday.
One of its members announces a candlelight vigil in Lahore, giving just a few hours’ notice.
“This is the time when we the future of the country can act. It is our future that is in jeopardy and it’s our country that needs our support,” says the Facebook user.
The group has links to protest blogs, pictures of rallies and a mass petition (Sign petition: We Oppose Emergency in Pakistan · GoPetition.com) with nearly 16,000 signatures calling for the restoration of the constitution.
Users can also click on videos showing the final transmission by Geo, the country’s leading news channel, and a recording made in hiding by Khan before his arrest.
Another Facebooker posts a link from the group to his own petition to free Khan, who was detained by police on Wednesday while trying to ignite a student protest movement against Musharraf – although it has yet to be signed.
Pakistanis have also turned to blogs as a political tool, with one (http://emergencypk.blogspot.com/) being the major premier alert service for demonstrations.
Internet use has soared in Pakistan in the past five years, with service providers saying between five and 10 million people among Pakistan’s youthful 160 million population are online.
Many have tapped into Facebook, the online phenomenon of 2007, which claims nearly 50 million active users and is by some measurements among the top 10 websites worldwide.
The site also came to prominence in building resistance to the crackdown by the military junta in Myanmar against mass pro-democracy protests led by Buddhist monks.
“Blogs and Facebook are starting to change the way young Pakistanis think because people who aren’t usually interested in politics are being exposed to it,” said Hamza Sadiq Khan, creator of the Facebook group “Go Musharraf Go!!!”.
The Internet was particularly important for some of the younger generation who were disillusioned not only with Musharraf but also with political leaders like Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif, who have dominated the scene here for years.
But he added that most young Pakistanis still lived in rural areas with no access to cyberspace.
“So it can’t yet play a pivotal role, for that we need genuine political leadership,” he added.
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
I don't see the masses on the streets of Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Lahore which she has visited over the last week. In fact in her home ditrict of Larkana oout of 2 million people, only 4000 people turned out to greet her, and this after reports that anti-BB graffiti was daubed on her father's grave. The people of Pakistan are not going to come out on the streets for twice tried and failed leaders like BB or Nawaz Sharif.
Yes. It looks that way. I think BB has realised she no longer has the support of the many as she had expected.
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
I don't see the masses on the streets of Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Lahore which she has visited over the last week. In fact in her home ditrict of Larkana oout of 2 million people, only 4000 people turned out to greet her, and this after reports that anti-BB graffiti was daubed on her father's grave. The people of Pakistan are not going to come out on the streets for twice tried and failed leaders like BB or Nawaz Sharif.
Brother, this is called writing on the wall. People are telling the politician, ‘leave us ignorant alone … do not make us fool again … we are satisfied with present government’ :)
Just imagine, before Musharraf, any politician in opposition could call people and people would respond, would come on road against government. JI made a mess of Lahore and many cities in Pakistan when they call people against NS and his invitation to Vajpayee. Many came on road when NS decided to pull forces from Kargil. Same situation was during BB rule, as whenever NS called people against BB, they said Lab-baik.
Anyhow, the situation is that, during last 8 years MMA (specially JI) threatened ‘million march’ million times. If one counts each of their threats is counted as ‘one person on road’, than their ‘million march’ has already happened without anyone coming on road. :)
Every call of PML(N) and NS went to deaf ears. When shahbaz landed in Islamabad, he was kicked out of Pakistan and no protest. When NS landed, there were not even stray dogs near the airport to receive him. *.
When BB came, even in her home town people did not had good words for her, and wrote disgusting slogans against her on her Dads grave (that is why it is said that if a person dies, at least they leave good children, such that instead of debasing the name of Dad, they give them honour).
In Islamabad, she had around 12 to 15 people wanted to hear her and in Lahore there was around 50 as most, whereas not a single place she could gather any crowd. [Bhai, yea na bolna kay, where is reference of all above claims, cause I heard that on GEO (Kashif from ARY) when some journalists after emergency were discussing emergency and what politicians can do].
Even in Karachi, although government facilitated her reception and MQM approved that, there were no more than 200,000 people on streets, what PPP love to call 3 million (actually most ignorant Pakistanis and many Journalists, translate ‘lac’ as million, so PPP as usual of our politicians increased the number from less than 2 lac to 3 lac, and then being ignorant started calling that 3 million :)).
Just imagine the fool-hardy believes of Pakistani politicians, that Imran knowing that he cannot gather people, went to PU hoping that maybe he could get some support from there, but what he got from students? Thappar and thudda, latayin and ghunsa, chatay and danda, something however sad, it shows respect for present government and hate for politicians in opposition.
This is what Ayaz Amir (a very bias journalist, who contested 2002 election for PNL(N), and became part of ARY journalist panel reporting lies and bias analysis) summarises opposition to Musharraf in Pakistan and his victory on them
‘Ayaz Amir (article: Freedom doesn’t come easy): His victories have been against the last outposts of liberal thought in Pakistan: the superior judiciary, the legal community, the media, political activists and students (from upscale schools and colleges).
This it clearly shows that there is no mass against President and even if there are students, they are from upscale schools and colleges.
Thing to note in his article is that he also realises that there is no sign of mass public support for opposition or that people are protesting against Musharraf, but it is few corrupt groups and ONLY students that are coming from corrupt backgrounds. In general, students are not against Musharraf, so ‘Ayaz Amir’ specified that by writing in bracket … ‘from upscale schools and colleges – in other words … children of corrupt politicians, corrupt judges, corrupt lawyers, corrupt yellow journalists, and corrupt bureaucrats, as in Pakistan mostly children of these people go to upscale schools and colleges.
As for other communities (majority of Pakistanis), their children goes to these upscale schools as well as lower class schools, schools for poor and middle class and government schools ... and they have no problems with present government. If all communities had problems, than children from all institutions would have been out on roads, irrespective of what school they came from.*
Re: Why Pakistani people have not taken to the streets?
^ So they came and told you that they are all from corrupt backgrounds. I must salute your determination to prove that apart from Mush the rest of 160 million are corrupt. Wow.