Re: Why does Pakistan still support Taliban?
Yes, pakistan should support Taliban...
Not because they are our religious brothers...
But because they can be used to have Pakistani influence in Afghanistan...
History tells us that as soon as Pakistan stops interfering in Afghani politics, pro-Indian influence increases hence pressurizing Pakistan from its western borders as well.
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The Taliban also refused to recognize the Durand Line. There is no logic to Pakistan supporting the Taliban anymore. Another Pakhtun movement, yes.
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what does everyone feel about the US faillings in tracking down the main people they were after? did they ever really want them?
its not right to hunt and kill every taliban. should the americans be welcome to get comfy for whatever their next mission is or whatever their motives are for being in the area for so long?
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Get your head out of the sand and look at the Taliban running amok in Pakistan hiding in homes belonging to extremists and fundamentlists and suck ilk.
And they were better before they became outlaws? Ya, before they became outlaws they banned dancing , singing, music, girls going to school , art, philosophy and in between blew up Bhuddist carved statues done couple thousand years ago. Placed women in burqas , made them non entities , forbade household pets etc etc and retard the society of Aghanistan . Pakistan sure was brilliant supporting them before they became outlaws.
And I stand behind my reason for Pakistan's support still today of Taliban. NOT OPENYLY but in clandestine . These warped religious sickos are still running rampant like bacteria in a donkeys defecate willing to plant bombs beside their own children to get at 72 virgins.
Re: Why does Pakistan still support Taliban?
Not because they are our religious brothers...
But because they can be used to have Pakistani influence in Afghanistan...
History tells us that as soon as Pakistan stops interfering in Afghani politics, pro-Indian influence increases hence pressurizing Pakistan from its western borders as well.
But did history not say Kashmir and Pakistan also belonged to India? hmmmm ,
Re: Why does Pakistan still support Taliban?
? of someone good I hope!
now do you have any idea why this roadrunner chap has his tail on fire?
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The Taliban from Pakistan (the major part is from Afghanistan) are recruited from refugee camps in Pakistan. They are Afghani refugee camps and they are paid to join ranks.
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And they were better before they became outlaws? Ya, before they became outlaws they banned dancing , singing, music, girls going to school , art, philosophy and in between blew up Bhuddist carved statues done couple thousand years ago. Placed women in burqas , made them non entities , forbade household pets etc etc and retard the society of Aghanistan . Pakistan sure was brilliant supporting them before they became outlaws.
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Look at every single news article you prick. Every one states that the Taliban were supported by the Afghan people when they came to power, because they brought with them stability which was the prime issue on the minds of Afghani people after a long period of insecurity.
From a western perspective (and my own) they were animals, as was every political faction in Afghanistan.
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And I stand behind my reason for Pakistan's support still today of Taliban. NOT OPENYLY but in clandestine . These warped religious sickos are still running rampant like bacteria in a donkeys defecate willing to plant bombs beside their own children to get at 72 virgins.
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Your own reason made absolutely no sense. Read it again, it's complete and utter GIBBERISH. You said "The reason they still support them today is because they are struggling to eradicate from within their own country islamic fundamentalism and extremism." 1) Pakistan is eradicating fundamentalism by your own words, and every media report, therefore what is the use of supporting fundamentalists and arming them when the border is so porous 2) The fundamentalists have already targeted Pakistan, so Pakistan is supporting those people who are targeting it..that makes a lot of sense.
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Is Pakistan serious about Taliban fight?
Musharraf disparages Canadian troop losses and denies his country is backing Afghan militants while deadly cross-border attacks continue, Olivia Ward writes
They question whether President Pervez Musharraf, who disparaged Canadian losses in Afghanistan – saying “we have suffered 500 casualties. Canadians may have suffered four or five” – is taking seriously Ottawa’s message that the Taliban network must be dismantled in Pakistan.
The doubts have deepened as reports emerge alleging that Pakistan’s intelligence agency is actively backing the Taliban. The latest, from Afghanistan, claims Taliban kingpin Mullah Omar is living in the Pakistani town of Quetta, protected by the agency. Pakistan fiercely denies the allegations.
But there’s little doubt that deadly cross-border attacks are occurring. And, says security expert Sunil Ram, “Canadian troops are facing a major spring offensive from the Taliban, and the (Stephen) Harper government has been informed about what is expected to happen.”
Ram, a professor of the American Military University who has also worked with Canadian forces, says “Pakistan is crucial to controlling the infiltration of militants, and we must be absolutely clear about that.”
Re: Why does Pakistan still support Taliban?
Yes but one of the main reason Pakistan always supports these religous nuts, inculding the MMA is because such people are more interested in relgious matters then nationalist matters… So while the Taliban may not have accepted the Durran line, the govt in Pakistan could atleast take comfort in the fact that the Taliban werent nationalist Pashtuns.
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Is there any meat to the claim that Pakistan's economic growth is a result of bloody money from America? From what I understand, Pakistan's growth is pretty organic and due to internal reasons...
I think, as always, American assistance to Pakistan is grossly overestimated. Ditto for Pakistan during the time of Zia...most of the money came from the middle east, not America.
Re: Why does Pakistan still support Taliban?
If supporting the Taliban is of any benefit to Pakistan, then they should continue to do so.
Pakistan has the luxury of understanding the nuances and political implications of doing so...not all Taliban are the same, nor should we bend over backwards to placate America, who only have their own interests at heart. If the Taliban are required as a bulwark against pro-Indian Afghanis, then so be it...we need them.
Pakistan foolishly put itself squarely in the American camp before, and was stabbed in the back. Not again, please.
BUT, supporting any organization that has absolutely no loyalties to their benefactor is not a wise move. The Taliban must take orders from the ISI if they are to be managed by them. Otherwise, it's time for Taliban 2.0.
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Isnt supporting Terrorism for so many decades affecting Pakistan. Look at the Shia-Sunni violence in Pakistan. Just today a suicide bomber killed many people during the Shia religious procession.
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John Negroponte, the outgoing National Intelligence Director, called Pakistan a haven for al-Qaida and Islamic militants in congressional testimony earlier this month. Nancy Pelosi is visiting Pakistan this week to talk about Islamic terrorism originating from Pakistan.
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Does gang violence in LA affect US foreign policy? I suppose it could be argued that the sectarian violence is a direct consequence of supporting the Taliban...but I don't see it. If anything, these are the people who fell through the cracks of the ISI-CIA anti-soviet action during the 1980's, and not the Taliban Policy of the early 19990's.
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She should be told to f-off unless she brings business to Pakistan. Pakistan should make it clear it's tired of being a lap dog for policies that bring rabidly pro-Indian parties in power in a neighbouring country, and that american support for India as the regional super power does not jive with Pakistan's interest.
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Here-here… Its about time Pakistan told these people to F-off…
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Its OK if Amreeka support/ed Talibs but if Pak does its a no no... yeah right...
In 1985, Reagan invited a group of bearded Afghan Mujahideen to the White
House and introduced them to the US Congress as the "moral equivalent of
America's founding fathers" . In 1998, Clinton showered the same Afghans
with Tomahawk cruise missiles and now monkey is in monkey trap in Afghanistan.
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Peer, you hit the nail. Thats so true. I wonder why they don’t take up this issue of poppy being grown in the areas under the tutlege of the warlords, now supporting the Karzai governement. A while back, an ex-American General visited Pakistan on some assignment related to Afghanistan. He tried to act smart, asking all sorts of questions about the current situation in Afghanistan and how well Pakistan can help the Americans on different fronts. Regardless of whether Pakistan is supporting Taliban or not (most believe they do from time to time), Pakistani side had answers to all his questions supported by facts and figures. He had the audacity to criticize Pakistan for not being able to do enough to curtail poppy cultivation in Afghanistan. When confronted on various issues and being told that his stooge Karzai must be held responsible for not being able to prevail upon the warlords, he got up, blamed the people present there for haranguing him and stormed out. These people are not willing to take criticism of any sort. But find it easier to censure Pakistan on every other issue that inflicts the Afghan government.
(i was an eyewitness 
and was actually impressed on how our side handled the entire situation)
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^ if a mere general can behave that way while visiting Pakistan, what kind of respect can the country command? Not very good. Has it become a total vassal state? This sort of things shoudl be made public
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Even if the news is 20% true the blame still falls on dog named Karzai for not controlling drugs. On one hand everyone blames "Taliban" for using drug money for their "militant" purposes and on the other hand opium is not touched at all, sure its easy to bark.