All nadz asked was why don't we wear hijab (coz its not farz, ok, the end!) and why don't we say our prayers, thats farz isnt it... and look at this thread now... "mind ur own business", "stop being a mullah", "don't shove it down my throat", "look at ur own self first", "u think ur superior?" and blablabla
Ya Allah hum musalmaano ko sari duniya se nahin to ek dusre se he pyar karne ki tofeeq ata farma. Ameen.
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^ People who have their own person legitimate views of not wearing Hijab, Nadz labelled their views as 'excuses'. Hence that IS being judgemental.
If a girl says she does not want to wear a Hijab because she is modest enough, that is NOT AN EXCUSE nor is she 'hiding' behind anything or any reasoning, that is her own legitimate view.
nadz and others also seem to think that it is Islamic to tell grown-ups what is Islamic and what is not
That DOES construe shoving religion down peoples' throat I am afraid
ek dusre se he pyar karne ki tofeeq ata farma. Ameen.
Baat tofeeq ki nai hai, mauka milnay ki hai.
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I want some toffee too.
you could have said that prayer in your head …
why put it here.? 
you think you are houlier than thou? 
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you see …
I believe we are all good and nice people deep down in our heart.
now lets give each other a group hug … 
*with namehrams it’s haram 
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my sisters and my mother don’t wear a hijab and i can tell u my mother is definitely a better muslim than I am even though i wear one which doesn’t have anything to do with how good of a muslim I may be. In terms of modesty, sharmo haya, etc. mom again takes the cake. So thats the end of the hijab issue.
Now, about telling others whats right and whats not, thats what u call Dawaah and as far as I know, the Quran instructs every muslim to do daawah…
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“Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom (hikmah) and beautiful preaching and argue with them in ways that are best.” (Surah An-Nahl 16:125)*
What nadz is doing is not right… she’s not showing much wisdom (in terms of knowledge of the religion), is not preaching beautifully, and is not arguing in the best way.
One guppan I can think of who does daawah the right way is a moderator @psyah:
And all of those who seem to get their knickers in a twist every time someone mentions religion and who accuse that person of being a mullah, please take it easy.
Intoxi: I’m not group hugging until everyone takes that frown away from their face! 
One guppan I can think of who does daawah the right way is a moderator @psyah:
the wifey of this guppan is not gonna be happy with you. :)
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Its when they start being judgemental about who is doing what etc etc etc then thats when people get angry.
I.e. that is what Nadz did.
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Now, about telling others whats right and whats not, thats what u call Dawaah and as far as I know, the Quran instructs every muslim to do daawah...
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"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom (hikmah) and beautiful preaching and argue with them in ways that are best." (Surah An-Nahl 16:125)
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As far as telling people is concerned everyone is a grown-up and NOONE likes to be told what to do. Trust me.
Dawaah would be legitimate if people were pious Muslims themselves, which NOONE is. So doing dawaah while being imperfect would be hypocrisy and a gunnah in itself wouldn; it, no?
That IS the problem with Muslims, criticse everyone, tell people what to do yet do nothing oneself.
lol psyah is a dude?
sowie 
I don’t go to the religion section much so i didn’t know.
Why She Won't Wear Hijab! A Discussion by A.Q. Alidost A conversation for Muslim sisters: "I'm so tired." "Tired of what?" "Of all these people judging me." "Who judged you?" "Like that woman, every time I sit with her, she tells me to wear hijab." "Oh, hijab and music! The mother of all topics!" "Yeah! I listen to music without hijab... haha!" "Maybe she was just giving you advice." "I don't need her advice. I know my religion. Can't she mind her own business?" "Maybe you misunderstood. She was just being nice."
"Keeping out of my business, that would be nice..."
"But it's her duty to encourage you do to good."
"Trust me. That was no encouragement. And what do you mean 'good'?" "Well, wearing hijab, that would be a good thing to do."
"Says who?"
"It's in the Quran, isn't it?"
"Yes. She did quote me something."
"She said Surah Nur, and other places of the Quran."
"Yes, but it's not a big sin anyway. Helping people and praying is more important."
"True. But big things start with small things." "That's a good point, but what you wear is not important. What's important is to have a good healthy heart."
"What you wear is not important?"
"That's what I said."
"Then why do you spend an hour every morning fixing up?"
"What do you mean?"
"You spend money on cosmetics, not to mention all the time you spend on fixing your hair and low-carb dieting." "So?"
"So, your appearance IS important."
"No. I said wearing hijab is not an important thing in religion."
"If it's not an important thing in religion, why is it mentioned in the Noble Quran?"
"You know I can't follow all that's in Quran."
"You mean God tells you something to do, you disobey and then it's OK?"
"Yes. God is forgiving."
"God is forgiving to those who repent and do not repeat their mistakes."
"Says who?"
"Says the same book that tells you to cover."
"But I don't like hijab, it limits my freedom."
"But the lotions, lipsticks, mascara and other cosmetics set you free?!
What's your definition of freedom anyway?"
"Freedom is in doing whatever you like to do."
"No. Freedom is in doing the right thing, not in doing whatever we wish to do."
"Look! I've seen so many people who don't wear hijab and are nice people, and so many who wear hijab and are bad people."
"So what? There are people who are nice to you but are alcoholic. Should we all be alcoholics? You made a stupid point."
"I don't want to be an extremist or a fanatic. I'm OK the way I am without hijab."
"Then you are a secular fanatic. An extremist in disobeying God."
"You don't get it, if I wear hijab, who would marry me?!"
"So all these people with hijab never get married?!"
"Okay! What if I get married and my husband doesn't like it? And wants me to remove it?"
"What if your husband wants you to go out with him on a bank robbery?!"
"That's irrelevant, bank robbery is a crime."
"Disobeying your Creator is not a crime?"
"But then who would hire me?"
"A company that respects people for who they are."
"Not after 9-11" Yes. After 9-11. Don't you know about Hanan who just got into med school?
And the other one, what was her name, the girl who always wore a white hijab... ummm..." "Yasmin?"
"Yes. Yasmin. She just finished her MBA and is now interning for GE."
"Why do you reduce religion to a piece of cloth anyway?"
"Why do you reduce womanhood to high heals and lipstick colors?"
"You didn't answer my question."
"In fact, I did. Hijab is not just a piece of cloth. It is obeying God in a difficult environment. It is courage, faith in action, and true womanhood.
But your short sleeves, tight pants..."
"That's called 'fashion', you live in a cave or something? First of all, hijab was founded by men who wanted to control women."
"Really? I did not know men could control women by hijab."
"Yes. That's what it is."
"What about the women who fight their husbands to wear hijab? And women in France who are forced to remove their hijab by men? What do you say about that?"
"Well, that's different."
"What difference? The woman who asked you to wear hijab... she was a woman, right?" "Right, but..."
"But fashions that are designed and promoted by male-dominated corporations, set you free? Men have no control on exposing women and using them as a commodity?! Give me a break!"
"Wait, let me finish, I was saying..."
"Saying what? You think that men control women by hijab?"
"Yes."
"Specifically how?"
"By telling women how and what to wear, dummy!"
"Doesn't TV, magazines and movies tell you what to wear, and how to be 'attractive'?"
"Of course, it's fashion."
"Isn't that control? Pressuring you to wear what they want you to wear?" [Silence] "Not just controlling you, but also controlling the market." "What do you mean?" "I mean, you are told to look skinny and anorexic like that woman on the cover of the magazine, by men who design those magazines and sell those products." "I don't get it. What does hijab have to do with products."
"It has everything to do with that. Don't you see? Hijab is a threat to consumerism, women who spend billions of dollars to look skinny and live by standards of fashion designed by men... and then here is Islam, saying trash all that nonsense and focus on your soul, not on your looks, and do not worry what men think of your looks." "Like I don't have to buy hijab? Isn't hijab a product?"
"Yes, it is. It is a product that sets you free from male-dominated consumerism." "Stop lecturing me! I WILL NOT WEAR HIJAB!
It is awkward, outdated, and totally not suitable for this society... Moreover, I am only 20 and too young to wear hijab!"
"Fine. Say that to your Lord, when you face Him on Judgment Day." "Fine." "Fine." [Silence] "Shut up and I don't want to hear more about hijab niqab schmijab Punjab!" [Silence] She stared at the mirror, tired of arguing with herself all this time. Successful enough, she managed to shut the voices in her head, with her own opinions triumphant in victory on the matter, and a final modern decision accepted by the society - but rejected by the Faith:
"Yes!" - to curls on the hair - "No!" - to hijab! "And he (/she) is indeed a failure who corrupts it [the soul]!" [Noble Quran 91:10] Subhana'Allah!!! "Nay! You prefer the life of this world; While the hereafter is better and more lasting." [Noble Quran 87:16-17] "You are the best community (Ummah) raised up for (the benefit of) humanity; enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong and believing in Allah." [Noble Quran 3:110]
SORRY bit longggg, but interesting.
Nice one.
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bbq @psyah: is a guppy not guppan :cb:
and yes he does it beautifully.
Its when they start being judgemental about who is doing what etc etc etc then thats when people get angry.
I.e. that is what Nadz did.
But if u get angry and start behaving just like the other person then what makes u different from each other?
Pyar naal gal karni chaidi ae
As far as telling people is concerned everyone is a grown-up and NOONE likes to be told what to do. Trust me.
Dawaah would be legitimate if people were pious Muslims themselves, which NOONE is. So doing dawaah while being imperfect would be hypocrisy and a gunnah in itself wouldn; it, no?
That IS the problem with Muslims, criticse everyone, tell people what to do yet do nothing oneself.
People were, are and always will be askholes... People didn't like to listen even when the BEST, MOST PIOUS muslim (i.e. Hazrat Mohammad saw) did daawah.... they threw rubbish over him... and i think everyone knows how our prophet reacted to these people....
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So you agree then people are imperfect and hence imperfect people have no right to do dawaah unless they reach perfection themselves right...which is what I said before.
And which is what the topic starter did NOT do in this thread. And hence wound up a few people.
people are imperfect, yes I do agree. I remember getting a forward email once… it was about a dream that the Imaam of Khaana Kaaba had… He dreamt that Hazrat Mohammad saw was telling him how 1000 people died this month and only one made it to Jannah (I’ve forgotten the actual numbers)… So hardly anyone is perfect in the present times…
The question is, Shak, how do we define perfect? If perfection means reaching the level that Hazrat Mohammad saw had, then we know it ain’t gonna happen… So does that mean no one has the right to do daawah in the present times? I mean we hate our imams and mullahs as it is… and we don’t like to listen to an average muslim either… Doctor Zakir Naik is a walking talking Quran/hadith and people hate him too… so who is allowed to do daawah? Anyway thats for another day…
I completely understand where ur coming from… people should be nice themselves before asking others to be nice and should refrain from doing things that they ask others to refrain from and should do things that they encourage others to do… Chalo hun ghussa chaddo saray… i myself have gotten angry on this forum plenty of times… honda hai kadi kadi 
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Can I please roll eyes here?
sure
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rolls eyes
Thank you.
mention naat 