Why do they hate us?

[Nikema]

@Pundit_Vikram

Hello Moonshiner,

If you had asked with a civil tone I might have helped you find the sources but given the gutter class language you have used, I have no interest in your kind of filth.

regards Pundit Vikram

Pundit Vikram,

Can you please provide with any credible source that tells us about forced conversion of hindus to Islam in muslim(mughal or other)era in Hindustan?

I hope it is polite enough for you to answer as i am really curious about this theory that Muslims forced hindus to convert on any mass level.

Thanks.

[Shak_killS]

Re: Why do they hate us?

first I think hate is mutual!

people living in both countries have more hate compared to people who actually have contact with indians abroad and work with them.

1. i think its result of confusion and no true information about the other side, its years of brain washing on both sides.

2. the most i came across, deep down not many accept Pakistan is a country by very own people of the land, most think PAksitanis were inavader muslims who took part of india away from them.

3. many assume Pakistan is a very backward and conservative country, and all women there use burqas and men have long beards.

4. many think Pakistan is trying to care out kashmir from them and send terrorists all the time to india for every blast that happen in India. They helped bangla desh to get country and now cause they are very ignorant, doesnt apperciate indian help now.

5. they find it strange sometime a Pakistani(me) working IT as if its their birth right only, cause first they assume I am from india as well.

I have many friends from India, I have worked from people from south to northern india. most of them are friendly, some may have differences politically, many confusions got cleared during discussions.

bottom line is hatred on both sides is a result of one sided stories fed on both sides. once they come out of the country and listen to each other; barring few hard liners from both sides they tend to have a good working and friendly relationship.

and if pakistani/indian born and brought up out of india/pakistan, there is hardly any hate feeling as they grow up together and mostly are very good friends.

[mufakkar]

@chintu_bhopali

hussain baba aapne sahi farmaya..hum log ekdam jalte hain aapse. kahan bangalore sala ghatiya jagah aur kahan rawalpindi.App west ko hi dekho aur unhe ke jhande jalao..

Have you ever set foot in Rawalpindi? I've been to Bangalore and I can tell you there is 90% less filth in Rawalpindi and no place in the world can have a stench like Bangalore (haven't been to Calcutta which I am told is even filthier--hard t believe). Know the subject before saying something.

[infiniti]

Re: Why do they hate us?

Did you ever think of the possibility of that stench coming from you, mu-guy?

[deedawar]

Re: Why do they hate us?

Answer to Vikram, pallavpotter and others…

For those who have any confusion about zero (arabic Sifar) being invented by who…!!!

All one can find is Indians DID NOT have any symbol to name it as a valid number or its meaning.

They along with many people in other parts of the world including babylonians and peope from south america had an idea of ‘nothing’ as something.

But no concrete informstion is available that they actually caused the numericals to be used the way it was used AFTER arabs/muslims actually used it in mathematicsal derivation.

Algebra was also made possible by these muslims. The concept of X as nothing but something is made possible due to muslims scientists.

I am just tired of Indians trying to be so full of it that they try to take the credit for enything good in the world…before or during the present time and ignore others goodness.

They make fun of Taj Mahal..but still want to live off its tourism money and say..its our history! No its not…you disown it by saying..so what!, whats the big deal! bla bla. While the world recognizes its beauty and charm unlike scary looking buildings made before it.

And there is no proof that anyone did sati per se to protect them from muslims and despite gettting proof that it was existed before muslims.. and was abolished by a muslim…but they learn in school or whereever only the false explaination to blame muslims.

Mr. Vikram has shown true colors…after repeatedly writing 'regards. hello whatever.

Thanks Mr. Vikram..we are enlightened by your great gesture…of hatred…without having a single proof you guys blame Pakistan and use foul language…

Yes Romans used eglish letters instead of numbers as used today…

Ever learn X being 10 and V being 5…Oh I forgot I am from Pakistan and have low IQ!!!..Sorry, Mr. Genius from India/bharat to try to tell you something!!

Not being hired by an Indian in a department is shared by many Pakistani abroad…asking for any study for it is ridiculus.

Despite many extremely intelligent and capable people I personally know from Pakistan or place other than India…were not accepted by Indian employer but those who were even on probation at a previous job for sloppiness were hired! Trust me on it!!!..I wouldn’t be able to write specifics.

The roman numericals as below:

http://www.gtcocalcomp.com/erc/interwritebackgrounds/roman_numerals_complete.jpg

[infiniti]

@deedawar

Answer to Vikram, pallavpotter and others…

For those who have any confusion about zero (arabic Sifar) being invented by who…!!!

All one can find is Indians DID NOT have any symbol to name it as a valid number or its meaning.

They along with many people in other parts of the world had an idea of ‘nothing’ as something.

But no concrete informstion is available that they actually caused the numericals to be used the way it was used AFTER arabs/muslims actually used it in mathematicsal derivation. Algebra was also made possible by these muslims. The concept of X as nothing but something is made possible due to muslims scientists.

I am just tired of Indians trying to be so full of it that they try to take the credit for enything good in the world…before or during the present time and ignore others goodness.

They make fun of Taj Mahal..but still want to live off its tourism and say..its our history!

No its not…you disown it by saying..so what!, whats the big deal! bla bla. While the world recognizes its beauty and charm unlike scary looking buildings made before it.

And there is no proof that anyone did sati per se to protect them from muslims and despite gettting proof that it was existed before muslims..they learn in school or whereever only the false explaination to blame muslims.

Mr. Vikram has shown true colors…after repeatedly writing 'regards. hello whatever.

Thanks Mr. Vikram..we are enlightened by your great gesture…of hatred…without having a sigle proof you guys blame Pakistan and use foul language…

Yes Romans used eglish letters instead of numbers as used today…

Ever learn X being 10 and V being 5…Oh I forgot I am from Pakistan and have low IQ!!!..Sorry, Mr. Genius from India/bharat to try to tell you something!!

Not being hired by an Indian in a department is shared by many Pakistani abroad…asking for any study for it is ridiculus.

Despite many extremely intelligent and capable people I personally know from Pakistan or place other than India…were not accepted by Indian employer but those who were even on probation at a previous job for sloppiness were hired! Trust me on it!!!..I wouldn’t be able to write specifics.

http://www.gtcocalcomp.com/erc/interwritebackgrounds/roman_numerals_complete.jpg

Lots of statements about proofs. Let’s start with the proof of Quran being the word of God. And before you use your patent excuse, yes, it is very much related to the discussion at hand as we need to establish what defines a proof.

PS: No offence meant to the good muslims.

[deedawar]

Lots of statements about proofs. ................... as we need to establish what defines a proof.

PS: No offence meant to the good muslims.

^Nice try derailing the thread. Stick to the topic please.

We as you can read the title are not discussing what defines proof. Open a new thread in other sections and I may respond.

[infiniti]

^Nice try derailing the thread. Stick to the topic please.

We as you can read the title are not discussing what defines proof. Open a new thread in other sections and I may respond.

Oh, so you did use your patent excuse. Yes, we are discussing why Indians hate Pakistanis and it does not have to do anything with zero and algebra and taj mahal and the proofs of their inventions.

And if you try to think, it will boil down to your self satisfying definition of proof or in other words your inability to try to respect others' pov.

[deedawar]

Oh, so you did use your patent excuse. Yes, we are discussing why Indians hate Pakistanis and it does not have to do anything with zero and algebra and taj mahal and the proofs of their inventions.

And if you try to think, it will boil down to your self satisfying definition of proof or in other words your inability to try to respect others' pov.

Well, I can say with utmost confidence that you tried to use the same patent excuse/tactics used by Indians/Hinduatani all the time to derail a thread by adding something very very unrelated...

.........We discussed very relevant topics so far to show why should Indians/Bhartis NOT hate Pakistani and muslims..since they might be the people giving them a gift of light and awareness from darkness.....

...........just like USA was made when Europeans invaded America...

Red Indians may have had some knowledge of something good.....and I will not continue to discuss in this line ...........but even you as the most denial and unthankful people of all will admit Europeans brought more than something good to North America...like the Mughals brought to India/Hindustan!!!!!!

Care to think of similarity there my friend?

Red Indians and Indians....similarity seems to be there.

Try denying this fact.

Oh...waiting for your thread on definition of proof.....eagerly I admit!!!!!!

[teggy]

Re: Why do they hate us?

You misspelled Hindu*s*tan. Please correct it.

[mufakkar]

Did you ever think of the possibility of that stench coming from you, mu-guy?

Tsk tsk tsk why get personal? Rebut what I have state or stay out of the discussion. BTW whats with the whole "mu-guy" thing? Say whats on your mind don't be afraid, I have an answer ready.

[infiniti]

Tsk tsk tsk why get personal? Rebut what I have state or stay out of the discussion. BTW whats with the whole "mu-guy" thing? Say whats on your mind don't be afraid, I have an answer ready.

haha, dont get so sensitive. I dont have any interest in your answer or in a discussion with you. Thand rakh aur lassi pi...chill....

[infiniti]

Well, I can say with utmost confidence that you tried to use the same patent excuse/tactics used by Indians/Hinduatani all the time to derail a thread by adding something very very unrelated...

.........We discussed very relevant topics so far to show why should Indians/Bhartis NOT hate Pakistani and muslims..since they might be the people giving them a gift of light and awareness from darkness.....

...........just like USA was made when Europeans invaded America...

Red Indians may have had some knowledge of something good.....and I will not continue to discuss in this line ...........but even you as the most denial and unthankful people of all will admit Europeans brought more than something good to North America...like the Mughals brought to India/Hinduatan!!!!!!

Care to think of similarity there my friend?

Red Indians and Indians....similarity seems to be there.

Try denying this fact.

Oh...waiting for your thread on definition of proof.....eagerly I admit!!!!!!

What facts? What are facts without any proofs. I am not derailing the thread but if you are thinking of stating your thoughts as facts then probably I am not the one to argue with you on those facts. I just gave you the Quran example to show you the same.

If you want to discuss, let's start slowly with a free mind.

[crystal1301]

Re: Why do they hate us?

it doesn't matter
more people hate indians :-P

[mufakkar]

haha, dont get so sensitive. I dont have any interest in your answer or in a discussion with you. Thand rakh aur lassi pi...chill....

What is it with you guys? waisay to barray shair bantay ho, but when you are called out, you just start squeaking left and right.

[deedawar]

What facts? What are facts without any proofs. I am not derailing the thread but if you are thinking of stating your thoughts as facts then probably I am not the one to argue with you on those facts. I just gave you the Quran example to show you the same.

If you want to discuss, let's start slowly with a free mind.

I already stated you the discussion is not about you want to.

Changing subject will not get you anywhere.

I mentioned similarity of two situations. You did not get the grasp of it..its OK.

The point is Indians/hindustani have false ideas which they spread by any means against Pakistan or Pakistani people.

BTW: Anyone read a book by a doctor of Indian/Bharati origin in U.S. "My own country" describing the humiliating way a Pakistani from Sind I think.........the choice of word and creation of scenario was pathetic...just to show how bad this Pakistani was....but if you read carefully many Indians/Bharatis do the same thing or worse than this Pakistani person was doing.

However, buying that book will only promote this pathetic guy....supposedly writing about HIV disease but along the way mocking at a Pakistani person.

[teggy]

it doesn't matter more people hate indians :-P

But why? Majority of them are decent, hard-working people.

[infiniti]

What is it with you guys? waisay to barray shair bantay ho, but when you are called out, you just start squeaking left and right.

:)

[infiniti]

I already stated you the discussion is not about you want to.

Changing subject will not get you anywhere.

I mentioned similarity of two situations. You did not get the grasp of it..its OK.

The point is Indians/hindustani have false ideas which they spread by any means against Pakistan or Pakistani people.

BTW: Anyone read a book by a doctor of Indian/Bharati origin in U.S. "My own country" describing the humiliating way a Pakistani from Sind I think.........the choice of word and creation of scenario was pathetic...just to show how bad this Pakistani was....but if you read carefully many Indians/Bharatis do the same thing or worse than this Pakistani person was doing.

However, buying that book will only promote this pathetic guy....supposedly writing about HIV disease but along the way mocking at a Pakistani person.

I do regret wasting 10 minutes of my time writing a reply to you.

[deedawar]

Re: Why do they hate us?

^ I regret trying to make you not to hate Pakistan and its people......