Why do they hate us?

Dude i would have given u a befiting reply but i dont want to hurt anyone following islam. Taking bath in running water doesnt hurt anyone but sacrificing animal t o god takes a life. I can say countless things about ur religion too but then there is a difference between you and me.

Yup .. when west is building universities like harvard and oxford muslim rulers in india are building tombs like tajmahal.
Ever heard of building pre-muslim era in india.

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Cultural up-lifting..like elimination of cast system, language. poetry, music and musical instruments, art, handicrafts, games like polo, respect for women, marrying the widows, eliminating horrible religious act like Sati.

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Caste system - Last time i heard it was still in existence in India and Pakistan.
Language - Which language are you talking about.
Poetry - Ever heard of Mahabharata and Ramayana .. those epics are composed of poems that Muslim civilization can remotely dream of and those are written from 400BC.
music and musical instruments - what music are you referring to. Carnatic music is the genuine music that is insulated by Muslim culture and Hindustani is 75% similar to carnatic music.
art - have to seem temples like kajurahao, mahabalipuram, konark.
handicraft - what handicrafts are you referring to.
respect for women - Yes we are reading news from Afghanistan and Pakistan all day how they respect women. In India many people consider ultimate power as shakti and its a feminine form.
marrying the widows - Hinduism doesn't oppose marrying widows, its the father/mother in laws who haven't permitted them to do.
sati - sati is not eliminated due to Muslim culture. Infact it has raised exponentially as widows try to kill themselves to protect their respect from Muslim solders. Sati was eliminated due to extended efforts made by people like raja ram mohan roy.
Making a Justice system..which was blind to cast, race or religion etc.

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Madarsas and universities, artillary/cannons, soap, use of sulphur, medicines, elimination of mythology and false beliefs, postal system, water supply and sewage system...etc etc. (Locals would only knew to go to the jungle or open field and do the chores or take a bath in rivers like Ganga!!)

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Madarsas and universities - India already have univ like taxila and nalanda at the time people from Arabia still rotting in the caves. India has produced many mathematicians like aryabhatta, Brahmagupta before Muslim invasion. India has invented zero and numerical system that the world is using now. Give me the name of one Muslim mathematician from India before British arrived.

sewage system - Wow, ever heard of Indus valley civilization

do not post BS and make laughing stock of yourself, i have shown this post to some of my friends and they are now your fans. If you want to refute my post do it systematically giving links, else i do not care to reply.

i could say same about india…wat makes u think that caste system exists thruout the length and breadth of the country..its a phenomenon found only in some parts of the country…

better preach to ur countrymen since they started all the non-sense...about caste system..

i never introduced my self in this forum...wat makes u think iam a female...

ur mulla said so...

the title of the thread should have been...why the world hates pakistan???

last heard it was the fourth most hated nation in the world after US, iran,north korea..

ur obsession about india far exceeds our hatred for pakistan...

when was the last time u rebutted my claims...in ur dreams???

ur posts contain a mixture of methane and sulphur...that provide laughter to many indians here...:)

Re: Why do they hate us?

Hooda Aunty, seeing the responses of the Indians here, crying is the more apt word compared with laughing. You seem to be badly delueded. Try to put something concrete in your posts next time rather than badly trying to detract from the actual topic of the thread.

This reminds me of another joke--Malhot ran out of things to say so he made an attempt at humor Yuk Yuk Yuk!

So now, aren't you going to ask me how my nick is pronounced again?

And yet you still keep coming here...

u take urself too seriously...take a chill pill...

indians here are far lessr than pakistani chicks in india tv forums...discussing the physique of salman and hrithick...:)

go and check out...

Yeah they discuss the physique of people who remind them of their sweeper roaming miraasis.. wah kiya baat hai....hazaaron khwahishain aisee... btw whose physique do you come to discuss here? I bet its Fraudia!

As if we already don't hear Indians blasting Islam...Go ahead ...you can try as well.

Your post is completely biased and based on limited knowledge.

**I do not see a single link in your post. Just read and do your own search/research. **One clue I can give is you read about what those muslims rulers had to say when they came to this land....start by looking their books.

Muslims prior to Babar had to come to Indiain subcontinent since local hindu ruler being the bad guy and treating locals ruthlessly and abducted arab families for which a teenager had to come and fight with local ruler after repeated warnings were ignored.

Babar was disaapointed that he had no other place to go but dark place Hindustan/India while his other family members ruled places like China.

Babur was not even a warrior but a gentleman with qualities like a writer and a poet.

The concept of universities is very young perhaps just after medieval times....
Before that knowledge was transferred to others by walking and talking teachers and professors......

BTW you gave examples of Harvard.....Do you know the even west is not ashamed of admitting their dark ages and gives credit to muslms and their knowledge which later on became the basis of modern knowledge.

Arab scientists knew many things BEFORE west came to know how to use those things..which west did not know..in terms of astronomy, chemistry and mathematics, metallergy, music, art and clothigs,.....Your assignment is to look for those things and read books on it.

Your denial just makes me think you hate muslims and are being thankless person.

Muslims thoughout the indian subcontinent and brought people of knowledge from all over the world and had discussions and lectures in Indian subcontinent.

Muslims rulers even tried to give incentives to the Just do search on muslims universities or teaching institutions.. Also you will learn how systematically muslim universities and institutions are being forced to lose their identity and curriculum is being changed.

Sati..the ultimate crime against humanity and women....

You mentioned Sati reason like other before tried to make us believe...not new to me at least...

Sati has nothing to do with muslims....its a hindu religious tradition in telling women they will go to swarg if they die with her husband and their husband is the final destiny for them...and..... if they live after their husband dies NO one will consider you honorable women...there has been a long thread on it on this forum and no one could prove YOUR point.....

and *it was banned by Aurengzeb in some 1659 .....way before Mohan even dreamed of banning it ( he was born in 1771). Indian/Bharati media is DEAD WRONG! *

Later, British also tried to ban this act in 1829.

Now remember..........Sati was present BEFORE muslims even came to Indian subcontinent and is described in your own book Mahabharta!

Tell me why it is still practiced after 1947 in parts of India/Bharat?

I bet you..you cannot bring anything to this forum which would link muslims to being the reason for this crime against humanity practiced in hinduism for centuries.

This should be the last time any Hindu try to blame Muslims for this horrible and inhuman crime against women and (their children). And this post can be made a reference to all ignrant people who try to impose all their ill- deeds on muslims.

I am surprised you ask me about the language......this shows your lack of knowledge of your own land.

So did you ask why mother/father-in-law do not allow widowed women to be married?...Answer will perhaps surprise you...Its been a hindu religious practice...a woman who's husband dies has no right to re-mary.

All other points you raised have no meaning....and if i have time will answer...

You sure have proven to be ill-educated /biased/full of hatred aginst muslims..perhaps you had learned wrong things about muslims in schools in India/Bharat or read only those things which some muslims did indeed do wrong,,but not the greater good to this piece of land.

When you write even a halfway decent post..I will answer.

read the even after this post by you.....did you really think you were making any sense?

Perhaps your way of argument make some people believe you are a female fighting with a 'Belan' (rolling pin)

'Take a chill pill' or 'get a life!' is not a way to have discussion or argument!:)

in what sense, do you say so?
politically, religiously, economically or just because?

Re: Why do they hate us?

The question is why do they hate us.

If I get your question as....you want to know why I think they hate us?

Thats the answer I am trying to find.

If the question is why I believe they hate us...then all you can do is read prior posts....Indians blaming Pakistan/muslims for all their problems will be one of many good conclusions you will reach at.

Re: Why do they hate us?

I have noticed Indians/Bharatis talking ill of Taj Mahal...its just a tomb and no big deal etc. kind of remarks.....as in the posts above....is there any way they can give all the money collected from its trourism for Taj Mahal to muslims and their benefits in India?

BTW: This hatred does have an effect:.....Can they really protect this property from deteriorating?

Even security cameras were stolen from this property!

In 1983, the Taj Mahal became a UNESCO World Heritage Site and was cited as "the jewel of Islamic art in India and one of the universally admired masterpieces of the world's heritage."

I wont try coz i am not a useless guy like u